Prescott - Worth the Wait ??

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Well then, you'll be happy to know the ECS 755-A (Socket 754) is available at Newegg for $91.

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the 90nm Prescott will be called P4E. it boasts larger L1,L2 cache sizes, new 13 PNI instructions, advanced hyperthreading, and possibly 64-bit registers. And most promisingly it will be prices the same as current Northwoods at same clock frequencies.
here is a link to 90nm prescott 2.8ghz benchmarks. according to the tests, the Prescott beat the northwood 2.8 in Cpu benchmark 99, Aquamark3, Super PI 1mb, and 3dmark2001se.
<A HREF="http://www.ocheaven.com/article/0310/readgoodarticle.asp?id=31" target="_new">http://www.ocheaven.com/article/0310/readgoodarticle.asp?id=31</A>
 
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Good one phial,

I don't think I have a come back for someone as sharp as you.

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I have an idea! Lets all stop fussin and a fudeing and go buy us some Apples.





No!.... Real apples... The red ones... what did you think i was talking about?
 
I'm not so sure about that, I think it's just that AMD guys have lower standards for chipsets, having learned how to address such issues and being used to finding workarounds.

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I've owned both amd and intel and I know I'd RMA a bad or instable chipset. These low expectation AMD guys you speak of do they usually acept lower quality harddrives and PSU's or is it just chipsets they accept or have lower standards for?

If I glanced at a spilt box of tooth picks on the floor, could I tell you how many are in the pile. Not a chance, But then again I don't have to buy my underware at Kmart.
 
You know that
1) AMD is a better value
2) VIA has been the largest chipset supplier for AMD
3) Hobbiest usually look for the best value
4) VIA has problems of their own
5) People looking for the best value will offten take extra measures to get that value.

So I'm not implicating AMD in any way in this matter, in fact I'm implying that VIA chipset users might just have a little (or a lot) more diagnostics experience (and therefore learned ability) than others.

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I'll admit Intel is the best over all chipset maker. I just loved the BX chipset that's not to say Intel can't produce junk I remember the early (820 I think) rambus boards being recalled.

I know in the past via had a reputation as a cheap junk chipset maker but companies do improve and turn around. Has VIA ever had a recall on the scale of Intels I820?

I have never owned a Via chipset, but I had heard they had got there act together. as a mater of fact I think there is an old article in thg motherboards stating just that.

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1.) It wasn't the RDRAM boards, it was the i820 SDRAM boards. Intel released those RELUCTANTLY after consumers demanded it, but there were issues with some RAM on some boards. In fact Intel had very strict qualifications for that configuration and all the failures were the result of companies not meeting them. Intel replaced the boards with RDRAM boards and gave a free 128MB RIMM with it.

This proves Intel is better than VIA. Has VIA ever had such a recall? No, VIA denied problems with the MVP3 chipset which took them over 2 years to solve! Intel would have recalled them! Every VIA chipset that followed has some of the same problems. The get better over time of course. But here's the killer: while Intel publishes errata, VIA denies it exist. So the fact that Intel goes the extra mile for their customers with such great things as VOLUNTARY recalls shows what a RELIABLE company they are to deal with. Even if they do make the dreaded Celeron (a reliable, painfully slow processor by nearly any standard).

Ask Papasmurf about his KT600 motherboard.

Why did VIA feel it was necessary to result to extorsion to prevent companies from using the SiS 735?

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Nope, now that most of their bugs have been fixed that's my major complaint too. But I'm still waiting for the next big bug to pop up.

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Re: It wasn't the RDRAM boards, it was the i820 SDRAM boards.

Same board was it not? Just the problem existed only when using sdram in this multi capable board. here is a link on the i820 from a while back
http://www20.tomshardware.com/blurb/20000510/index.html

Looks like thg has a review out on some problems with a64 boards. This could be interesting. Crashman did you write that review? LOL.

I have not had a chance to look over the review properly but I will later today.

Re: Why did VIA feel it was necessary to result to extorsion to prevent companies from using the SiS 735?

I dunno, why did Intel feel it was necessary to result to extorsion to prevent companies like via from making ddr platforms for the P4?

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There were several motherboards with SDRAM slots directly on the board. Not all had problems, but because so many were out-of-spec, it was a PR disaster for Intel. To show people what a reliable company they were, they offered to replace ANY brand of board with an Intel board and a free RDRAM module.

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Corporations don't do things to be nice, they do things to improve or maintain their reputation.

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hey crash you say via are junk and always will be.. care to back that up? how many CURRENT via mobos have you had any experience with? you state numerous times that you are boycotting via SO HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY ARE JUNK?

if you are going to make a statement like that either back it up or state it as opinion. otherwise you are just a troll
 
I still do contract work on VIA chipset boards occasionally for a local computer store, solving "unsolvable problems".

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