President for a day, or a week

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Hi CRaSH,

BTW, have you seen "Jeremiah Johnson", starring Robert Redford?

Regards,
John Ward
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> John Ward wrote:
>> Anyway, mate, it's about time CRaSH Parker was asked by someone to
>> explain himself - none of us have been able to come up with an
>> explanation yet! )
>>
>
> I explained myself, I think, let me go back and look.............
> Yep, I did, now what are YOU talking about?? <G>
>

 

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John Ward wrote:
> Hi CRaSH,
>
> BTW, have you seen "Jeremiah Johnson", starring Robert Redford?
>

Yeah, but it's been awhile. Excellent depiction of the mountain men era -
hard to believe most of them even survived! Sad ending however....

 

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Hi CRaSH,

Yeah, a great film, and visually a stunning film, and some good humour
too.

To me, aside from the history, and the insights for an Aussie' into a
particular, important, era, and some geography we don't have, the message
was " No matter where you might find yourself, and whatever you might be
doing, and whatever the year might be, there are 'perceived hardships', and
there are 'real hardships', and anyone who wants to do a good job, and
overcome adversity, and maybe earn the respect of his fellow man, better
concentrate on learning and understanding the true realities of his
environment, hopefully in a noble manner....."

Anyway, mate, I'm just about to watch it again, and I hope a few
Americans do, too.

Regards,
John Ward
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> John Ward wrote:
>> Hi CRaSH,
>>
>> BTW, have you seen "Jeremiah Johnson", starring Robert Redford?
>>
>
> Yeah, but it's been awhile. Excellent depiction of the mountain men era -
> hard to believe most of them even survived! Sad ending however....
>

 

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On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 09:43:46 -0700, "Jay Beckman" <jnsbeckman@cox.net>
wrote:

>"Capt Bob" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> The real issue is that the moron in the White House froze at the
>> switch and continued his Vacation, and strutted around in his $2000
>> suit with that silly smirk on his face, while people were dying by
>> the hundreds. If this had happened in Iraq you would have seen
>> thousands of troops heading for there as soon as the storm hit.
>
>The federal government released funds and authorized emergency services to
>be mobilized a week before the storm hit so what about the "morons" in
>charge of the city of New Orleans and the state of Louisiana?
>
>And, FWIW, Bush was in Crawford because there was renovation work being done
>at the White House...he was not on "vacation."
>
>What exactly do people think the President can do from Washington that he
>can't do from Crawford, aboard AF1, or from the shitter for that matter?

Not to mention the fact that the FEMA plan for evacuating NO calls
for the mayor to use all available means of public transportation,
including school busses, to get people out ahead of the storm. Not
only did he not do that, they left the school busses parked on low
ground, where they currently sit in about four feet of water. This
means that not only did they not follow the plan to get people out
before the storm, they couldn't even use the busses to get people out
after the storm.

Also, someone in the city got the idea of moving people to the
Superdome, but didn't think about the fact that people would need to
eat, drink water, and go to the bathroom. As we said at my last job,
"Well, that was the start of a good idea".

But of course, that's the president's fault...

take care,
Scott

 

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"Scott Stevenson" <almostfm.AMSPAY@UCKSAY.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 09:43:46 -0700, "Jay Beckman" <jnsbeckman@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>>"Capt Bob" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>news:feqqh15bcih6p3rl4o6fvvk54netneoq3i@4ax.com...
>
>>> The real issue is that the moron in the White House froze at the
>>> switch and continued his Vacation, and strutted around in his $2000
>>> suit with that silly smirk on his face, while people were dying by
>>> the hundreds. If this had happened in Iraq you would have seen
>>> thousands of troops heading for there as soon as the storm hit.
>>
>>The federal government released funds and authorized emergency services to
>>be mobilized a week before the storm hit so what about the "morons" in
>>charge of the city of New Orleans and the state of Louisiana?
>>
>>And, FWIW, Bush was in Crawford because there was renovation work being
>>done
>>at the White House...he was not on "vacation."
>>
>>What exactly do people think the President can do from Washington that he
>>can't do from Crawford, aboard AF1, or from the shitter for that matter?
>
> Not to mention the fact that the FEMA plan for evacuating NO calls
> for the mayor to use all available means of public transportation,
> including school busses, to get people out ahead of the storm. Not
> only did he not do that, they left the school busses parked on low
> ground, where they currently sit in about four feet of water. This
> means that not only did they not follow the plan to get people out
> before the storm, they couldn't even use the busses to get people out
> after the storm.
>

In point of fact, the city of NO itself has (had) a plan to evacuate up to 1
million residents and that plan sat on the drawing board ... unused.

There will be plenty of blame to go around over the next (probably) decade
and I hope the residents of NO and the other affected areas will realize
that they're own (meaning mayors and governors) let them down every bit as
much as Washington DC did.

Jay B

 

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you got it

"Scott Stevenson" <almostfm.AMSPAY@UCKSAY.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 09:44:30 +1200, "donbutts"
> <remove.donneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>> I don't know about you, but I'm greatly relieved.
>>> John
>>
>> that'sa doozy alright )
>>
>> >I'm only not saying much, because I don't KNOW >much, about the local
>>situation in the States - that's why >I posed the question.
>>
>>just having the usual dig JW I think we were all watching the
>>Wobblies go down instead of keeping on the news channel
>>
>> >We don't get Hurricanes here in Brisbane. We don't get >them in the rest
>>of Australia very often, either
>>
>>Nobody gets them like the Caribbean / Florida area in fact the English
>>document the fact in their part of the world by saying 'urricanes 'ardly
>>'appen!
>
> But only in 'artford, 'ereford, and 'ampshire...
>
> take care,
> Scott
> "How kind of you, to let me come"

 

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On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 18:20:10 +1200, "donbutts"
<remove.donneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote:

> you got it

Scott Stevenson--Renaissance Man.

take care,
Scott
>
>"Scott Stevenson" <almostfm.AMSPAY@UCKSAY.comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:431df4db.233088125@news.giganews.com...
>> On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 09:44:30 +1200, "donbutts"
>> <remove.donneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> I don't know about you, but I'm greatly relieved.
>>>> John
>>>
>>> that'sa doozy alright )
>>>
>>> >I'm only not saying much, because I don't KNOW >much, about the local
>>>situation in the States - that's why >I posed the question.
>>>
>>>just having the usual dig JW I think we were all watching the
>>>Wobblies go down instead of keeping on the news channel
>>>
>>> >We don't get Hurricanes here in Brisbane. We don't get >them in the rest
>>>of Australia very often, either
>>>
>>>Nobody gets them like the Caribbean / Florida area in fact the English
>>>document the fact in their part of the world by saying 'urricanes 'ardly
>>>'appen!
>>
>> But only in 'artford, 'ereford, and 'ampshire...
>>
>> take care,
>> Scott
>> "How kind of you, to let me come"
>

 

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In article <431C901C.1060308@earthblink.net>,
johngrabowski@earthblink.net says...
> John Black wrote:
>
> > Rick, it is a shame that some people will use any occasion to bash Bush.
>
> It's a shame people used any occasion to Clinton Bash, too.
>
> Or was everything, including 9/11, really all his fault?

Actually, those on the right put the blame where it belonged -- on bin
Laden and his ilk. It was only in response to all the people on the
left trying very hard to pin 9/11 on Bush that people said hey wait a
minute, if Bush ignored warnings and such, did Clinton?? Turns out he
did, even more so but we'd still rather put the blame where it belongs
than point fingers at each other.

John Black

 

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In article <dfheag$68d$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>,
chris@mwapartnershipNOSPAM.co.uk says...
> John Black
>
> I didn't blame Bush directly. The original question was what should we do
> in the aftermath. I am not a member of the 'Greenparty' and don't go
> overboard on recycling etc but one has to admit our climate IS changing for
> the worse. There does seem to be more severe weather hitting the south east
> coast of US lately i.e. Miami coastline - why is this?

The operative words here are "seem" and "lately". Go to the national
hurricane center site and look at the history of hurricanes over the
past 100 or so years and you will find that 1) hurricane activity goes
in cycles (usually 30 years or so) and 2) we are not experiencing more
hurricanes or more severe hurricanes than in the past. Were you alive
in the 30's? That was a very bad decade for hurricanes, worse than this
one, as were the 50s. Here are a couple of articles to get you started:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/30/national/30cycle.html
http://www.techcentralstation.com/083105JKG.html

> Bush is only one member of an Administration but this present government put
> economics before passing any Bill when he catagoritly refused to take
> measures to reduce carbon emissions from road vehicles or industry (which
> looks increasingly like the culprit for global warming). If something isn't
> done it may well be too late.

Like the Kyoto treaty which was voted down in the senate 95-0 in 1997?
That Bush administration had a lot of power before they even got to
Washington I guess.

John Black

> Ibby
>
> > Rick, it is a shame that some people will use any occasion to bash Bush.
> > According some some (see Ibby's post) even the *hurricane itself* is
> > Bush's fault. Sigh.
> >
> > John Black
>
>
>

 

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In article <dfhehj$6u8$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>,
chris@mwapartnershipNOSPAM.co.uk says...
> Probably cause most security forces are in far off places fighting a war!
>
> Ibby

Ibby, it may seem like I'm picking on you in particular but your posts
have all been misinformation. 10% (note, not most) of our forces are
off fighting a war. More than 70% are here in the US.

John Black

 

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In article <1125871983.32503@forums.simradar.com>, David Wilson-Okamura
<David Wilson-Okamura@forums.simradar.com> says...
> I don't think anyone here believes that the president can create
> hurricanes. But something is changing, and a brand-new study of
> long-term trends confirms it. If you've been reading the newspaper or
> listening to the radio lately, you may know that Kerry Emanuel, a
> professor of atmospheric science at MIT, has just published an article
> in the journal Nature, which shows that the duration and force of
> hurricanes have increased 50% over the last three decades. Google
> "Kerry Emanuel" for details; or read the "executive summary" at
> National Geographic:
> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/0804_050804_hurricanewa
> rming.html

Just looking at the historical data of hurricanes from the National
Hurricane Center over the last 100 or so years shows that this is not
true. Compare not just the number of hurricanes but the number of CAT4s
and CAT5s. There were way more in past decades, but they were far
enough in the past to be out of people's short term memories and back in
the 30's and 50's there was no CNN giving everyone 24 hour coverage of
them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/30/national/30cycle.html
http://www.techcentralstation.com/083105JKG.html

John Black

 

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___| reply |__________________________________________________________
Just looking at the historical data of hurricanes from the National
Hurricane Center over the last 100 or so years shows that this is not
true. Compare not just the number of hurricanes but the number of CAT4s

and CAT5s. There were way more in past decades, but they were far
enough in the past to be out of people's short term memories and back
in
the 30's and 50's there was no CNN giving everyone 24 hour coverage of

them.

_____________________________________________________________________

"Opposition is true friendship." Now we're having a real conversation:
matching fact with fact, instead of just waving our hands. This is a
good point, and it explains why the increase in hurricane force over
the last three decades wasn't discovered right away. Hurricane
categories (CAT1, CAT2, etc.) are based on windspeed. What Emanuel
looked at was wind speed AND duration (force over time). Looking at the
data this way, he was able to see that the ENERGY of storms has
increased over the last thirty years by 50%.

If anyone wants to follow up on this, there's a good interview with
Emanuel here:
http://www.loe.org/shows/segments.htm?programID=05-P13-00035&segmentID=
3 He's not a global warming fanatic, either. He thinks it's
significant, but he says the immediate danger (as in, right now) is
from people building houses and cities in vulnerable places.

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Thats alright John, I guess I'm just a bit ignorant to the way security
works in US. We dont have (I think) an equivilant to your national guard in
UK (I'm starting to sound stupid........maybe I should not continue on this
thread!!).

Ibby

"John Black" <jblack@texas.net> wrote in message
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> In article <dfhehj$6u8$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>,
> chris@mwapartnershipNOSPAM.co.uk says...
>> Probably cause most security forces are in far off places fighting a war!
>>
>> Ibby
>
> Ibby, it may seem like I'm picking on you in particular but your posts
> have all been misinformation. 10% (note, not most) of our forces are
> off fighting a war. More than 70% are here in the US.
>
> John Black