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Im getting a new High end card and need to compare prices.
Should i get the 7900 GTX (7900 GT OC) at 400$ or the X1900XT at 500$?
I used to think the price difference was only 50$ but its not. No, i dont live in the US.
Also, could my P4 3.0Ghz Prescott CPU w/HT and 800Mhz front bus bottleneck the card since its kida old?

Thnx!

P.S. Did AMD really accuire/merge with ATI? Cause for some reason i have always thought of them together.. :!:
 
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The OP was referring to a 7900GTX vs a 1900XT. I'm leaning towards the 1900XT, but for a $100 price difference I'd definately considder my options well. What games do you play/plan on playing. Oblivions tend to run much better on high end ATI than on high end Nvidia. Also, your processor should probably be fine. Sure you could get more frames with a better processor, but that would probably be with lower settings where the framerates would be high anyway. At high settings the GPU should become the limiting factor in most systems.

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I think the OP is confusing a 7900GT OC with a 7900GTX.

Hey OP, 7900GTX and X1900XT are very similar performers, but I'd suspect the ATI is cheaper not $100 more. The 7900GT OC is not a 7900GTX and is way under a X1900XT. It's down about equal to the X1800XT.
 
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I think the OP is confusing a 7900GT OC with a 7900GTX.

Hey OP, 7900GTX and X1900XT are very similar performers, but I'd suspect the ATI is cheaper not $100 more. The 7900GT OC is not a 7900GTX and is way under a X1900XT. It's down about equal to the X1800XT.
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No, a 7900 GT can be overclocked to a GTX. Its one of the most overclockable cards ever. But its not 100% assured that ull be able to overclock it, a GTX is more of an insurance policity and a GT is more of a chance at GTX performance, but if u get one that cant overclock well by chance then ur goal was not achieved.

The only setback to the 7900 GT is that it has only 256Mb of memory, wich is out of the question for a person like me who lives in a place that only lets him buy a new card every few years.. however i might sell it in a year for a DX10, but i cant rely on that right now, i have enough to think abt.

The X1900XT is cool, because it has twice as many shaders needed by any game on max, wich makes it "future proof" as best can be put. i thought i could get it for the same price as a 7900 GT but now i realize the price is actually higher, and the 7900 GT's price is actually lower, so that there is a 100-150$ price difference.

So its hard.
 
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The OP was referring to a 7900GTX vs a 1900XT. I'm leaning towards the 1900XT, but for a $100 price difference I'd definately considder my options well. What games do you play/plan on playing. Oblivions tend to run much better on high end ATI than on high end Nvidia. Also, your processor should probably be fine. Sure you could get more frames with a better processor, but that would probably be with lower settings where the framerates would be high anyway. At high settings the GPU should become the limiting factor in most systems.

-mcg
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Well i got an entire year of school, my last year. So im probably going to play every game. In the one month till school starts ill play all of the games that im really into - F.E.A.R, Hitman 4, Far Cry at Max (upgrading from an FX 5200) etc. then ill play every game i missed from the point where i could no longer play new games, wich was abt 2004.
What i plan to do after i finish school is sell my current rig and buy a DX10 card and an Intel Core 2 Duo, in order to play Crysis.
 
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No, a 7900 GT can be overclocked to a GTX. Its one of the most overclockable cards ever.
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It's also got to be one of the most failing cards ever(recent history anyway). SHoot, the factory overclocked cards have been burning up like crazy. So I wouldn't count on reaching 7900GTX speeds, or at least not for very long..pooof. :lol:
 
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opps sorry didnt see where you lived... newegg has a great on deal x1900xt's.
but i don't think you can oreder from there :cry:
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I got a friend who is coming to visit from the US in september, but then id lose the whole summer and thats out of the question. Plus, i have nothing better to spend my money on.
 
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Interesting box design for that oem card. :? :wink: Good price though.

I have been eyeing up the iceQ XT for $349 after $20 rebate: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161014
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how about this comrade?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814142063

$389.99
($289.99 after $100.00 Mail-In Rebate)

100$? What is this mail-in rebate thing?

it's like you buy the product, and file out form, mail it in/verify on internet, and in like anywhere from 3 mouths-1 yr, you get that money. (I;m pretty sure, someone correct me if i;m wrong)
 
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Interesting box design for that oem card. :? :wink: Good price though.

I have been eyeing up the iceQ XT for $349 after $20 rebate: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161014
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how about this comrade?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814142063

$389.99
($289.99 after $100.00 Mail-In Rebate)

100$? What is this mail-in rebate thing?

it's like you buy the product, and file out form, mail it in/verify on internet, and in like anywhere from 3 mouths-1 yr, you get that money. (I;m pretty sure, someone correct me if i;m wrong)

A year???
What do they have to gain from all this hassle?
 
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No, a 7900 GT can be overclocked to a GTX. Its one of the most overclockable cards ever.
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It's also got to be one of the most failing cards ever(recent history anyway). SHoot, the factory overclocked cards have been burning up like crazy. So I wouldn't count on reaching 7900GTX speeds, or at least not for very long..pooof. :lol:

I didn't even have to OC my 7900 to get it to blow up...
 
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Well, I can be exaggerating, but it depends on the company....that and Buercratcy.
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Well its not worth it, and u still havnt told me why they would do this.

I think it;s because the Manfactur offers a discount, and not the retailer, so then, you have to complete paperwork etc to get the manufacter. From wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebate_%28marketing%29

"Originally this was a way for manufacturers to encourage sales, by giving the money directly back to the customer, rather than the retailers keeping it."

and as for the time of processing:

The turnaround time is generally four to eight weeks, though some rebates note a period of eight to twelve weeks.

As i said before, I was overexaggerating because of some bad experiances with Fry's rebates, from a thanksgiving sale. (probably because everyone was maling in rebates at around the same time)

I am sorry if my first couple posts weren't very clear, but Organic Chem in the morning = me tired. Hope this helps.
 
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are u on crack! u can get an x1900xt for 290 after rebate on newegg.com and below 400 anywhere pretty much, and yes ur little oven is kinda of a bottleneck for both cards... but i consider the x1900xt superior to the 7900gtx and its is CHEAPER!! the cheapest 7900gtx is like $420 on newegg.com (sometin like that) so yeah ud be a retard to spend 500 on a video card that will be obsolete..ish when DX10 comes out! i say just go for an x1800xt and keep it as long as u can and then upgrade to a non-prescott cpu and DX10 cpu ! good luck!
 
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I didn't even have to OC my 7900 to get it to blow up
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What brand? Factory OC'ed or reference speeds? It is odd that what some people find to be great OC'ers, others find they can't survive above reference speeds.

I had an eVga 7900GT. It wouldn't run on my video rig (Asus A8N32SLI Dlx/4400+/2x1GB OCZ DDR500/4 HDs/2 opticals/Liberty 620) but it did run a little while on my son's DFI nF4 LP UT/Opty 146/OCZ 2x1GB DDR400/1 HD/1 optical/OCZ Modstream 520. Then it bit the big one.
 
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are u on crack! u can get an x1900xt for 290 after rebate on newegg.com and below 400 anywhere pretty much, and yes ur little oven is kinda of a bottleneck for both cards... but i consider the x1900xt superior to the 7900gtx and its is CHEAPER!! the cheapest 7900gtx is like $420 on newegg.com (sometin like that) so yeah ud be a retard to spend 500 on a video card that will be obsolete..ish when DX10 comes out! i say just go for an x1800xt and keep it as long as u can and then upgrade to a non-prescott cpu and DX10 cpu ! good luck!
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-DX10 cards might come out in 2007 to be with Vista
-I need a card for the summer
-I plan to sell it in a year and get DX10 and Intel core 2 Duo
-I dont live in the US, u lucky lucky bastard :(
 
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