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Hi

Newest bios on asus p3b-f
Windows xp with.

PCI wireless netcard is Trendnet tew-423pi, 54 Mbit/s
http://www.compumail.dk/vare-oversigt.php?varenummer=94303&type=hardware

Is there something rotten about old motherboards and wireless pci
netcards ?

The router is Trendnet tew-432brp.
http://www.compumail.dk/vare-oversigt.php?varenummer=94301&type=hardware

On others a little bit more modern MB this wireless works directly
with drivers even without the utility (Trendnet) installed, - and on
even longer distance.

Any ideas or similar experiences ?

mvh

John
 
Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:04:30 +0200, JK <johnknuhtsenSP@Mmail.dk> wrote:

>Hi
>
>Newest bios on asus p3b-f
>Windows xp with.
>
>PCI wireless netcard is Trendnet tew-423pi, 54 Mbit/s
>http://www.compumail.dk/vare-oversigt.php?varenummer=94303&type=hardware
>
>Is there something rotten about old motherboards and wireless pci
>netcards ?
>
>The router is Trendnet tew-432brp.
>http://www.compumail.dk/vare-oversigt.php?varenummer=94301&type=hardware
>
>On others a little bit more modern MB this wireless works directly
>with drivers even without the utility (Trendnet) installed, - and on
>even longer distance.
>
>Any ideas or similar experiences ?
>
>mvh

Check the system requirements for the card and see what minimum revision PCI
support it requires.

The P2 and P3 family motherboards (440BX chipsets) supported PCI 2.1.
It's not unusual to find modern PCI cards that require 2.2 or higher...

/daytripper
 
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:25:04 -0400, daytripper
<day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:04:30 +0200, JK <johnknuhtsenSP@Mmail.dk> wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>
>>Newest bios on asus p3b-f
>>Windows xp with.
>>
>>PCI wireless netcard is Trendnet tew-423pi, 54 Mbit/s
>>http://www.compumail.dk/vare-oversigt.php?varenummer=94303&type=hardware
>>
>>Is there something rotten about old motherboards and wireless pci
>>netcards ?
>>
>>The router is Trendnet tew-432brp.
>>http://www.compumail.dk/vare-oversigt.php?varenummer=94301&type=hardware
>>
>>On others a little bit more modern MB this wireless works directly
>>with drivers even without the utility (Trendnet) installed, - and on
>>even longer distance.
>>
>>Any ideas or similar experiences ?
>>
>>mvh
>
>Check the system requirements for the card and see what minimum revision PCI
>support it requires.
>
>The P2 and P3 family motherboards (440BX chipsets) supported PCI 2.1.
>It's not unusual to find modern PCI cards that require 2.2 or higher...
>

Thank you, it requires PCI 2.2

best regards

John
 
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:25:04 -0400, daytripper
<day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:04:30 +0200, JK <johnknuhtsenSP@Mmail.dk> wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>
>>Newest bios on asus p3b-f
>>Windows xp with.
>>
>>PCI wireless netcard is Trendnet tew-423pi, 54 Mbit/s
>>http://www.compumail.dk/vare-oversigt.php?varenummer=94303&type=hardware
>>
>>Is there something rotten about old motherboards and wireless pci
>>netcards ?
>>
>>The router is Trendnet tew-432brp.
>>http://www.compumail.dk/vare-oversigt.php?varenummer=94301&type=hardware
>>
>>On others a little bit more modern MB this wireless works directly
>>with drivers even without the utility (Trendnet) installed, - and on
>>even longer distance.
>>
>>Any ideas or similar experiences ?
>>
>>mvh
>
>Check the system requirements for the card and see what minimum revision PCI
>support it requires.
>
>The P2 and P3 family motherboards (440BX chipsets) supported PCI 2.1.
>It's not unusual to find modern PCI cards that require 2.2 or higher...
>

Does anybody know of a brand having a wireless pci netcard only
requiering pci 2.1 ?

I have looked at some linksys and dlink cards and did not find it.

Any ideas ?

TIA

John
 
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:25:04 -0400, daytripper
<day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:04:30 +0200, JK <johnknuhtsenSP@Mmail.dk> wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>
>>Newest bios on asus p3b-f
>>Windows xp with.
>>
>>PCI wireless netcard is Trendnet tew-423pi, 54 Mbit/s
>>http://www.compumail.dk/vare-oversigt.php?varenummer=94303&type=hardware
>>
>>Is there something rotten about old motherboards and wireless pci
>>netcards ?
>>
>>The router is Trendnet tew-432brp.
>>http://www.compumail.dk/vare-oversigt.php?varenummer=94301&type=hardware
>>
>>On others a little bit more modern MB this wireless works directly
>>with drivers even without the utility (Trendnet) installed, - and on
>>even longer distance.
>>
>>Any ideas or similar experiences ?
>>
>>mvh
>
>Check the system requirements for the card and see what minimum revision PCI
>support it requires.
>
>The P2 and P3 family motherboards (440BX chipsets) supported PCI 2.1.
>It's not unusual to find modern PCI cards that require 2.2 or higher...
>

It seams that you are wrong. The manual states, that pci is 2.2, but
in bios 2.1 pci can be disabled/enabled.

I will try with changing bios setting, and/or refresh windows.

best regards

John
 
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In article <ldv961lj223q45mjv2uv3dg0epfk6rncoe@4ax.com>, JK
<johnknuhtsenSP@Mmail.dk> wrote:

>
> It seams that you are wrong. The manual states, that pci is 2.2, but
> in bios 2.1 pci can be disabled/enabled.
>
> I will try with changing bios setting, and/or refresh windows.
>
> best regards
>
> John

What exactly is the problem you are having ?

Some 440BX motherboard simply ignore certain PCI cards.
Is your wireless card ignored ? Or is it detected
and resources assigned by the BIOS ?

If the problem is transmission distance, that is
harder to explain as a motherboard fault.

Paul
 
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:11:01 -0400, nospam@needed.com (Paul) wrote:

>In article <ldv961lj223q45mjv2uv3dg0epfk6rncoe@4ax.com>, JK
><johnknuhtsenSP@Mmail.dk> wrote:
>
>>
>> It seams that you are wrong. The manual states, that pci is 2.2, but
>> in bios 2.1 pci can be disabled/enabled.
>>
>> I will try with changing bios setting, and/or refresh windows.
>>
>> best regards
>>
>> John
>
>What exactly is the problem you are having ?
>
>Some 440BX motherboard simply ignore certain PCI cards.
>Is your wireless card ignored ? Or is it detected
>and resources assigned by the BIOS ?
>
>If the problem is transmission distance, that is
>harder to explain as a motherboard fault.
>

The problem is that wireless card is not working. Utility for the card
not working, and not working with standard XP either.

It cannot connect.

best regards

John
 
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In article <7boa615gba35mf5hcqb7g2gl9sm74unjp9@4ax.com>, JK
<johnknuhtsenSP@Mmail.dk> wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:11:01 -0400, nospam@needed.com (Paul) wrote:
>
> >In article <ldv961lj223q45mjv2uv3dg0epfk6rncoe@4ax.com>, JK
> ><johnknuhtsenSP@Mmail.dk> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> It seams that you are wrong. The manual states, that pci is 2.2, but
> >> in bios 2.1 pci can be disabled/enabled.
> >>
> >> I will try with changing bios setting, and/or refresh windows.
> >>
> >> best regards
> >>
> >> John
> >
> >What exactly is the problem you are having ?
> >
> >Some 440BX motherboard simply ignore certain PCI cards.
> >Is your wireless card ignored ? Or is it detected
> >and resources assigned by the BIOS ?
> >
> >If the problem is transmission distance, that is
> >harder to explain as a motherboard fault.
> >
>
> The problem is that wireless card is not working. Utility for the card
> not working, and not working with standard XP either.
>
> It cannot connect.
>
> best regards
>
> John

The reason I ask, is I wonder if the card can be seen in
Linux but not in Windows ? Is the card completely invisible
to any software probes ?

Paul
 
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"JK" <johnknuhtsenSP@Mmail.dk> wrote in message
news:fd48619kltkg7p2ddrgd1vs6jqcam4981m@4ax.com...
> Hi
>
> Newest bios on asus p3b-f
> Windows xp with.
>
> PCI wireless netcard is Trendnet tew-423pi, 54 Mbit/s
> http://www.compumail.dk/vare-oversigt.php?varenummer=94303&type=hardware
>
> Is there something rotten about old motherboards and wireless pci
> netcards ?
>
> The router is Trendnet tew-432brp.
> http://www.compumail.dk/vare-oversigt.php?varenummer=94301&type=hardware
>
> On others a little bit more modern MB this wireless works directly
> with drivers even without the utility (Trendnet) installed, - and on
> even longer distance.
>
> Any ideas or similar experiences ?

I've always had rotten luck getting wireless network cards (Linksys and
D-Link) to work on older motherboards. I monkeyed around with BIOS settings
after doing research online, I updated drivers, blah blah, but no luck.

For older systems, I've had much better luck with USB wireless network
adapters that just plug into a USB port. That's still no guarantee, however,
because sometimes it takes a couple tries before the connection occurs. With
Linksys equipment, the newer (v. 2 or higher) USB wireless adapters seem to
be much better at grabbing and holding a connection.
 
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:02:32 -0400, "Hackworth"
<NoSpam4Me@spamless.net> wrote:

>
>"JK" <johnknuhtsenSP@Mmail.dk> wrote in message
>news:fd48619kltkg7p2ddrgd1vs6jqcam4981m@4ax.com...
>> Hi
>>
>> Newest bios on asus p3b-f
>> Windows xp with.
>>
>> PCI wireless netcard is Trendnet tew-423pi, 54 Mbit/s
>> http://www.compumail.dk/vare-oversigt.php?varenummer=94303&type=hardware
>>
>> Is there something rotten about old motherboards and wireless pci
>> netcards ?
>>
>> The router is Trendnet tew-432brp.
>> http://www.compumail.dk/vare-oversigt.php?varenummer=94301&type=hardware
>>
>> On others a little bit more modern MB this wireless works directly
>> with drivers even without the utility (Trendnet) installed, - and on
>> even longer distance.
>>
>> Any ideas or similar experiences ?
>
>I've always had rotten luck getting wireless network cards (Linksys and
>D-Link) to work on older motherboards. I monkeyed around with BIOS settings
>after doing research online, I updated drivers, blah blah, but no luck.
>
>For older systems, I've had much better luck with USB wireless network
>adapters that just plug into a USB port. That's still no guarantee, however,
>because sometimes it takes a couple tries before the connection occurs. With
>Linksys equipment, the newer (v. 2 or higher) USB wireless adapters seem to
>be much better at grabbing and holding a connection.
>

That is what I will try, yes. Usb 11 Mbit/s, because usb 2.0 pci
adapters requires pci 2.2 also.

best regards

John
 
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