Question PSU for a 2080 Super ?

[muddysoap14]

Build

Mother board: x370-f gaming
Cpu: ryzen 7 2700x
Gpu: Gigabyte 2060 triforce oc
Ram: G-skill 32gb 3200mhz
Corsair: tx650m 80+ gold 650watt
Os drive: 250 gb ssd
Storage drive: 4tb hdd WD blue
M.2: 2tb Samsung 970 emo plus
Case: cooler master h500

So I have a 2060 right now and I am thinking of upgrading to a 2080 Super or a 2080 Ti, and I was wondering if my 650 watt Psu will be good enough to handle it?
Iv had the Psu for about 5 years now.

Thanks for your help, Muddy.

 

[Darkbreeze]

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What is the actual model of the PSU in question?

 

[muddysoap14]

Info - Recommended PSU capacities for gaming graphics cards

Below are my recommendations for PSU requirements on gaming graphics cards. The recommendations are not intended to be "minimum", as there is certainly some overhead built into these recommendations. The reason is twofold. For one, many users will opt for lower quality models regardless of...

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What is the actual model of the PSU in question?

Corsair tx650m 80+ gold

 

[Darkbreeze]

So, 650w should be plenty for that 2080 ti or Super, however, at five years old you should consider that your TX650 has already reached the age at which Corsair believes it likely to start becoming unreliable or faulty since the warranty on those units was five years. It was a pretty good unit when new, but at five years old it is likely to have experienced at least some degradation by now. So I'd say sure, try it, but if you experience unusual issues that cannot be attributed to whatever card you purchase then I'd immediately be giving the PSU the stink eye.

 

[muddysoap14]

Could I use a 3000 sires card on my motherboard? It’s a 3.0 card bus though?

 

[rcald2000]

Hello muddysoap. In direct answer to your question: Yes, I personally think you'd be fine placing the 2080 Ti on your existing power supply. However, that is not the upgrade that I would go for, and I say that as an owner of a RTX 2080 Ti. For starters, I do not believe that you can purchase a new 2080 Ti's in June of 2024, therefore I assume that you're considering a used model. Were it me, I'd instead upgrade to an AMD RX 6800. Besides it having the same 250 watt TDP as the 2080 Ti, it's approximately 15% faster in rasterization graphics and possesses 16GB of VRAM, versus 11 for the 2080 Ti. My only caution about the GPU that I've linked, is that it's a long card; dimensions: 13.38" x 5.12" x 2.05". But if it'll fit into your case, then I think it would make for a very shrewd purchase.

Also, I'd upgrade that Ryzen 7 2700X to a Ryzen 7 5700X3D, and would place a quality single tower air cooler on it (they offer it in RGB and non-RGB variants). And the flash drive is for updating the motherboard BIOS, in anticipation of upgrading the CPU, and potential file backups. These are the upgrades that I would personally do.

Also, don't forget to sell your GPU and CPU afterwards, and use the proceeds toward another upgrade or Steam game purchases.

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XFX Speedster SWFT319 ,Radeon™ RX 6800 Core Gaming Graphics Card with 16GB GDDR6, AMD RDNA™ 2 (RX-68XLAQFD9)
$360.58

Amazon.com

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AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D 8-Core, 16-Thread Desktop Processor
$204.99
* important * contact Asus and verify that their latest BIOS supports this CPU. I'm reasonably sure that it does, but it wouldn't hurt you to be absolutely certain.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CQ4H4H7X/
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Thermalright BA120 ARGB CPU Air Cooler, 6 Heat Pipes, TL-C12CG-S PWM Quiet Fan CPU Cooler with S-FDB Bearing, for AMD AM4/AM5 Intel LGA1700/1150/1151/1200
$22.90
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09YY72PYN
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SanDisk 128GB Ultra USB 3.0 Flash Drive - SDCZ48-128G-GAM46, Black
$12.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B081QSJNRJ
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** Addendum **

I should mention that you don't really need an X3D chip for a RX 6800. The Ryzen 7 5700X3D is a nice thing, but you could certainly get by with just upgrading to a Ryzen 5 5600 sticking with your existing cooler, to save some money. But whether buying the 5700X3D ($200) or the Ryzen 5 5600 ($117), I would absolutely upgrade to one of them. I wouldn't even consider staying on the 2700X. These are my thoughts on the matter.

-------------------------------------
AMD Ryzen 5 5600 6-Core, 12-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler
$116.99

Amazon.com

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** notes **

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-2080-ti.c3305

ROG STRIX X370-F GAMING | Motherboards | ROG United States

Experience next-level performance and personalization options with the ROG STRIX X370-F GAMING, powered by AMD® Ryzen™ AM4 processors. Unlock full calibration and customization with 5-Way Optimization featuring Fan Xpert 4, AURA Sync RGB lighting and 3D printing mounts. Onboard NVMe M.2 and...

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU-jUtrfANA

 

[Darkbreeze]

Your board should support most any modern card, but honestly, considering what your CPU is, there is not much point in doing anything beyond the 20 series cards because that CPU is simply not able to keep up and it will without question be a choke point in your configuration. Even the 20 series is likely being constrained to some degree by that platform.

 

[muddysoap14]

Hello muddysoap. In direct answer to your question: Yes, I personally think you'd be fine placing the 2080 Ti on your existing power supply. However, that is not the upgrade that I would go for, and I say that as an owner of a RTX 2080 Ti. For starters, I do not believe that you can purchase a new 2080 Ti's in June of 2024, therefore I assume that you're considering a used model. Were it me, I'd instead upgrade to an AMD RX 6800. Besides it having the same 250 watt TDP as the 2080 Ti, it's approximately 15% faster in rasterization graphics and possesses 16GB of VRAM, versus 11 for the 2080 Ti. My only caution about the GPU that I've linked, is that it's a long card; dimensions: 13.38" x 5.12" x 2.05". But if it'll fit into your case, then I think it would make for a very shrewd purchase.

Also, I'd upgrade that Ryzen 7 2700X to a Ryzen 7 5700X3D, and would place a quality single tower air cooler on it (they offer it in RGB and non-RGB variants). And the flash drive is for updating the motherboard BIOS, in anticipation of upgrading the CPU, and potential file backups. These are the upgrades that I would personally do.

Also, don't forget to sell your GPU and CPU afterwards, and use the proceeds toward another upgrade or Steam game purchases.

-------------------------------
XFX Speedster SWFT319 ,Radeon™ RX 6800 Core Gaming Graphics Card with 16GB GDDR6, AMD RDNA™ 2 (RX-68XLAQFD9)
$360.58

Amazon.com

-------------------------------
AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D 8-Core, 16-Thread Desktop Processor
$204.99
* important * contact Asus and verify that their latest BIOS supports this CPU. I'm reasonably sure that it does, but it wouldn't hurt you to be absolutely certain.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CQ4H4H7X/
-------------------------------------
Thermalright BA120 ARGB CPU Air Cooler, 6 Heat Pipes, TL-C12CG-S PWM Quiet Fan CPU Cooler with S-FDB Bearing, for AMD AM4/AM5 Intel LGA1700/1150/1151/1200
$22.90
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09YY72PYN
-------------------------------------
SanDisk 128GB Ultra USB 3.0 Flash Drive - SDCZ48-128G-GAM46, Black
$12.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B081QSJNRJ
-------------------------------------

** Addendum **

I should mention that you don't really need an X3D chip for a RX 6800. The Ryzen 7 5700X3D is a nice thing, but you could certainly get by with just upgrading to a Ryzen 5 5600 sticking with your existing cooler, to save some money. But whether buying the 5700X3D ($200) or the Ryzen 5 5600 ($117), I would absolutely upgrade to one of them. I wouldn't even consider staying on the 2700X. These are my thoughts on the matter.

-------------------------------------
AMD Ryzen 5 5600 6-Core, 12-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler
$116.99

Amazon.com

-------------------------------------

** notes **

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-2080-ti.c3305

ROG STRIX X370-F GAMING | Motherboards | ROG United States

Experience next-level performance and personalization options with the ROG STRIX X370-F GAMING, powered by AMD® Ryzen™ AM4 processors. Unlock full calibration and customization with 5-Way Optimization featuring Fan Xpert 4, AURA Sync RGB lighting and 3D printing mounts. Onboard NVMe M.2 and...

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU-jUtrfANA

I had no idea you could use a 4.0 graphics card in a 3.0 card bus, iv always been told by other people that you had to use something in line with your current classification.
Oh and thank you for the comprehensive response, I really appreciate it, it’s helping out ton.

 

[faalin]

Any high end card , 2080-2080Ti or 3080-3090 i would look at a 850W atx 3.0 or 1000w atx 2.0 power supply.

I ran a EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra on a EVGA 750w G2 from the previous build, ended up having issues so bought a EVGA 850w G2 to replace it. The 2080 Ti duirg some games would spike so much it would trip the PSU. LTT, GN, and Jays all had videos saying any high end GPU to go 1000w or more to handle the spikes these cards have. I ended up using a EVGA 1600w G2 i had from an older build and never ran into issues again with it.

Both the 2000 and 3000 series cards have very bad transient spikes, the 4000 series has them to but the new ATX 3.0 are speced to now handle the spikes. Thats why you can get away with a lower wattage PSU using a ATX 3.0 vs the older 2.0 PSU's.

 

[Darkbreeze]

All cards from 1.0 through now, are "Technically" compatible. That does NOT mean they will work. It fracking does not. So stop saying it will. Because, depending on the system, it probably might not.

What MATTERS, is BIOS support. If it HAS it, it will work. If it does not, then it WILL NOT. Period. End of discussion. AND, you will will only find out IF it does by checking the specific forums OR trying. That's it. And that's all.