PSU tier list 2.0

[Darkbreeze]

Yes, Seasonic is the only OEM for XFX. If they are not on the XFX website then they are probably discontinued models.

http://www.orionpsudb.com/xfx

 

[Brandon G]

Hmmm.. it seems to be a new series. Interesting.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Looks like it might be a rebrand of the Pro series. Listing shows XT series but image shows Pro series.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/XFX-Series-Bronze-Wired-Supply/dp/B0045L4BNW

That's about the only thing I can find on it that isn't those three listings on NewEgg. Nothing in the news, on the XFX website or on any of the review/database websites.

 

[Brandon G]

Looks like it might be a rebrand of the Pro series. Listing shows XT series but image shows Pro series.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/XFX-Series-Bronze-Wired-Supply/dp/B0045L4BNW

That's about the only thing I can find on it that isn't those three listings on NewEgg. Nothing in the news, on the XFX website or on any of the review/database websites.

Could be. I find it interesting also that all the listings, other than Newegg and that UK Amazon listing, are from what looks like hispanic speaking resellers. I wonder if the Pro series is marketed as the XT series in some countries.

There is even an unboxing YouTube video from Dec. 31 2015. It clearly says XT series on the PSU.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Might be something regional that Newegg has only recently decided to add to their US inventory. Dunno, seems weird though.

 

[Brandon G]

Might be something regional that Newegg has only recently decided to add to their US inventory. Dunno, seems weird though.

Indeed.

I took a chance and ordered the XT 500w from Newegg. It has to be better than the Rosewill ARC M550 that I unfortunately ordered for a budget build I'm doing for a friend.

 

[ko888]

It doesn't look anything like the old PRO Series:

 

[Darkbreeze]

Yeah, clearly it doesn't. But the link I followed from Amazon.uk for the XT series unit took me to the Pro series product, which is why I said it MIGHT be a rebrand. Maybe you can explain to us why the unit is not represented on the XFX website, or referenced in ANY reviews across all the tech sites? I can't find anything on it anywhere.

 

[Someone Somewhere]

My build is half years old it cant have molex :lol:

But my nzxt phantom 530 fan controller has molex 😀

There are plenty of systems that still use molex connectors. My NZXT Grid+ v2 is powered by Molex, as are many fan hubs. The Hue+ I have on order also uses molex power. If you have reused your optical drive from a previous build, or several previous builds, you could easily have a molex powered optical drive, but it would be pretty unlikely since they've been SATA for a long time and molex powered units are generally IDE rather than SATA, which means on modern boards there would be little chance of having an IDE header.

Yes I know but I think it would be better to spend like 10euro for a new DVD which will be faster,more compatible with new techs like sata 3

ODDs aren't fast enough for anything above SATA 1 to be necessary. And there's not been much of a speed increase for DVDs or CDs in the last few years - I believe they're up against the point where spinning the disks faster would cause them to disintegrate.

I know some early SATA HDDs had both SATA and molex power connectors; I'd guess ODDs were the same.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Another reason why Amazon reviews on PSUs stink. Here are reviews on the Apevia ATX-AQ700W Aqua Power Supply, which people clearly buy for pretty LEDs and that it looks like an aquarium (which will probably have some dead fish). There is no review done on this unit, but we all know Apevia's reputation. I can already see the yellow Capxon capacitors in the window - the yellow ones are probably the worst of the Capxon caps, as all manufacturers have better and worse caps they produce. Well, here we go.

5 Stars
If your looking for a low-priced Power Supply that wont fail you, this power supply is the one for you.

Won't fail me? No, it'll probably fail my R9 390. Might not fail your system that draws 100W.

5 Stars
The quality of the 700 watt power supply by Apevia is simply outstanding. I replaced a 600 watt power supply in my Gateway desktop computer with the Apevia and it works fine.

He replaced his 500W power supply with a 400W power supply.

5 Stars
Thanks to this pretty blue box (i was hoping they had red) i was able to install my gtx 280 and finally am able to play my games again.

Soon going to be an ugly blue box.

5 Stars
This power supply ROCKS! For starters, it is gorgeous. Now, the differences between the Apevia Iceberg and this one, the Aqua: The Iceberg has a switch to change the light colors R G B.

C'mon, everyone knows yellow power supplies are better quality.

5 Stars
Very good power supply, it is silent and strong to give power.

I can certainly lift more than that PSU. It ain't that strong.

I originally got this for a computer on Amazon but the price went up so i found a better deal on one through newegg. That computer came with a 350w power supply... o swapped it with this one which was very easy...it looks good no problems... im happy with it

So, it looks good, that must mean it has no issues at all. So do squirrels, but once they get on you it's not fun.

5 Stars
Since my PC is tucked into/under my desk, I can't see the really cool blue led lights, but then again, I bought this to power my PC, not to give me a light show!

Oh you'll get a light show, believe me. You'll see it alright. Hey, are your pants on fire?

5 Stars
Excelente producto

This settles it. It must be good if he says it's excellent.

4 Stars
Working good so far!

Why is this even called a review on Amazon? Why not just the "Quick Statement Zone" or something like that, or the "One-Liners".

4 Stars
Does this have a 8 and 6 pin because my 760 needs both

Great review, my friend.

 

[CTurbo]

turkey3_scratch, you can't really trust any user reviews for electronics on consumer sites because people are super stupid, and most low ratings are directly due to user stupidity, and most good reviews are because they plugged it in and it worked. I knew a guy who built himself a $1000ish gaming system with a 290x, and he gave every single part 1 start because the psu that came with his case(hahaha) blew up. A different stupid person gave an i5 3570k 1 start because it didn't work in his AM3 motherboard.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

turkey3_scratch, you can't really trust any user reviews for electronics on consumer sites because people are super stupid, and most low ratings are directly due to user stupidity, and most good reviews are because they plugged it in and it worked. I knew a guy who built himself a $1000ish gaming system with a 290x, and he gave every single part 1 start because the psu that came with his case(hahaha) blew up. A different stupid person gave an i5 3570k 1 start because it didn't work in his AM3 motherboard.

I know they can't be trusted, I just find humor in reading them :lol:

 

[Darkbreeze]

I don't find humor in it, I find great sadness and loss of faith in humanity. Anyhow, while amusing, let's at least try to keep this conversation directed towards power supplies, K?

 

[turkey3_scratch]

I don't find humor in it, I find great sadness and loss of faith in humanity. Anyhow, while amusing, let's at least try to keep this conversation directed towards power supplies, K?

Okee dokey. I was just trying to convince someone not to get the NEX, but he told me that the other guy has a CPU Veteran++ thingy and he just wanted one that won't fail on him.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Do you ever wonder if companies ever send "fake" units to reviewers like Jonnyguru with better quality than the ones sold in the stores to consumers?

 

[Someone Somewhere]

I seem to remember something about Ecova (people who test for 80+) getting cherry-picked/non-retail units. Don't know about other reviewers.

 

[kwa-e]

I don't know about that but I feel that corsair is paying reviewers to sugar coat their reviews.

 

[Darkbreeze]

I doubt Corsair is doing that. As we've said before, these units test great on practically all the review benches, it's down the road that the troubles with these units starts happening, and it's usually only when they're used in systems they weren't intended to be used in, despite some misleading marketing to the contrary. Corsair's own product pages indicate the CS, CX, VS and RM units are intended for mainstream, not gaming, machines, so it's really not surprising that they don't hold up well under gaming loads over time.

For the most part, their higher end units DO hold up well, but they're also more expensive than what you can get from other brands that are as good or better.

 

[kwa-e]

I see, thanks for the insights.

Kinda depressing to see consumers falling for the brand name and marketing, but then again Apple exists.

 

[Someone Somewhere]

Corsair's own product pages indicate the CS, CX, VS and RM units are intended for mainstream, not gaming, machines, so it's really not surprising that they don't hold up well under gaming loads over time.

There's no such thing as a 'gaming' load. Power is power. Now, if you talked about duty cycle...

 

[Darkbreeze]

Ok, just words really. A sustained gaming load would be considered to be a much higher "on" duty cycle than the demands that would be placed on a system by most other processes. When the graphics card is sustaining loads over 50% for long periods of time, using a card that pulls significantly more from the wall during gaming than it does any other time, regardless of what's being run except maybe some high end 3d or video rendering applications, I'd consider that to be a gaming load.

Personally, I never heard anybody refer to the demands on the system while gaming as duty cycle, whether it's accurate or not, but I suppose it's a matter of semantics.

 

[orionfotl]

The XT 400W, 500W and 600W are not rebrands - they are new, and don't use the Seasonic GB Bronze platform like the TS Bronze 550W unit.
The "XFX XT 850W" unit on Amazon is just a typo - it's supposed to say XFX XTR, and they never fixed that.

There are some weird errors in some places - the load label says the +12V rail on the 500W is rated for 40A (480W), but also says it's 460W (38.3A):

The description in a Brazilian store is amusing too: http://www.kabum.com.br/produto/71759/fonte-xfx-xt-500w-full-wired-80-plus-bronze-p1-500b-xtfr
It says the primary capacitor is "85C 220uF 400V (Taiwan)", which is possible, and then the other capacitors are "85C (Taiwan)", which never happens - secondary capacitors in PC PSUs are always 105C, even in gutless wonders.

This is how it looks like from the back and from the top. http://i.imgur.com/4AMTvgm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/OecIRNq.jpg

 

[pianoplayer88key]

Looking at the first post, I see "list cleanup scheduled for 31 January 2016". Today is now the 2nd of February 2016 in all time zones east of me, and I don't see any sign that the list has been updated since "3 November 2015" or thereabouts? Anyone know if there's a new thread I should be looking for? Or is it just not updated yet? (I hope dottorrent hasn't passed away, or worse... 😱 )

 

[Darkbreeze]

Dottorrent just posted a couple of pages back and said he would get to it before long. He's been busy and hasn't really been around much lately.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list/page-53.html#17401591

 

[okcnaline]

Anyone notice OklahomaWolf's review of FSP Hydro G?
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=456

Seems like a decent chap. Hits 80+ Gold fine with the exception that 100% load is .1% lower than standard. Stability at 3.6% for 3.3V, 2.4% on 5V, and 1% on 12V. Rubycon and Nippon Chemi-con running the show with some Teapo polymers. Ripple's a bit high at 35mV.

Overall, it seems like a decent Tier 2 unit. $79.99 drops the ball on value, since there are some SeaSonic and Super Flower units running the show at lower prices.