PSU tier list 2.0

[PSUGod]

Already told you, almost everything.

Of course I don't agree with cheap Corsair power supplies being bad. If you want a bad power supply look at manufacturers like Linkworld, Keerda, Leadman or Codegen for example, they know how to make a bad power supply.

If a PSU like the Corsair CX series was bad, then most people in the world probably have a bad power supply. Because there is so much stuff that isn't as good as the Corsair CX series. The Corsair CX series is just a simple budget line from Corsair. If it's a good choice or not depends on the price, but it's no where near bad.

 

[Karadjgne]

I agree, but disagree. There are much worse psus than the CX line. That's not a debate or an issue. Everyone can agree on that. As to whether the CX is bad or not isn't much of an issue either. The CX has more than the 3 required protections, puts out decent amperages on all its rails, even has acceptable ripple and output ranges. Normally this would rate it at least a tier3 unit, even JG has written that they are quite decent, especially at their price points. What IS bad is just where Corsair has placed those units in the court of public opinion. The CX are good for everyday, generic, websurfing, working units. If you get lucky, you'll find in certain ads from Corsair that even they agree that CX are most definitely not designed or built to handle the almost instantaneous large cyclic power draws that gaming gpus can demand. They simply are not gaming psus, and yet it's small print disclaimer that no one ever reads. Yet being a Corsair unit, it sells simply due to brand recognition and Corsair does nothing to disabuse the public's idea that it's a gaming psu. It's a lie of omission. That's bad. Legally, Corsair is well within its rights, realistically it's false advertising on the grandest scale. You wanna throw a cx430 in grandma's YouTube surfing core2duo, be my guest, its a really good replacement for most stock, generic psus. But it doesn't belong in a high end, high powered custom gaming rig, so why there are CX bigger than 500w is imho, quite a huge pile of bs.

 

[Darkbreeze]

From now on, discussion of the entire Corsair lineup of power supplies, especially the CX series, is banned from Tom's Hardware. You will not talk about them, refer to them, recommend them, discuss them, tear them down and explain the internal workings or use them. If you do, we'll be sending some guys in dark colored sedans to visit your home with a delivery of concrete shoes.

Ok, not really, but it was kind of fun to say that.

 

[Turb0Yoda]

From now on, discussion of the entire Corsair lineup of power supplies, especially the CX series, is banned from Tom's Hardware. You will not talk about them, refer to them, recommend them, discuss them, tear them down and explain the internal workings or use them. If you do, we'll be sending some guys in dark colored sedans to visit your home with a delivery of concrete shoes.

Ok, not really, but it was kind of fun to say that.

I was going to say.... how do we attempt to help people then lol

 

[Archaic59]

Hmm. Maybe I should change my status.

 

[Alexpraia]

What about the XFX XT(new series) PSU ??

http://www.xfxforce.com/en-us/products/xt-series-bronze-full-wired

 

[Darkbreeze]

Certainly not to provide any help, just to snub our community.

I feel my "help" is in the form of pointing out misinformation.

If you don't want me to "snub" your community, stop making mods out of people that make up information instead of posting facts.

Rather than focus on what is being said by our moderators, perhaps focusing on your own forum would be a better avenue. You don't see any of our moderators openly hating on your groupies, so if you are so bothered by what's said here then maybe just chill out on your own turf. Every time you post here it's just to put somebody down. That tends to wear thin after a while.

Also, your "fact", indicated above, is a pretty thin difference from the implied solution that was posted. Was it strictly inaccurate, perhaps, but not enough so to warrant your tone. If Corsair doesn't want their budget units getting a bad reputation, perhaps they should built them in such a way that they can actually be trusted to last a while.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Hmm. Maybe I should change my status.

There is plenty of product sold by Corsair worth liking. And some that is not. Some people just can't seem to accept the fact that not everything they sell is worthwhile.

 

[Darkbreeze]

What about the XFX XT(new series) PSU ??

http://www.xfxforce.com/en-us/products/xt-series-bronze-full-wired

Go read the previous page and the one before that.

 

[RCFProd]

Already told you, almost everything.

Of course I don't agree with cheap Corsair power supplies being bad. If you want a bad power supply look at manufacturers like Linkworld, Keerda, Leadman or Codegen for example, they know how to make a bad power supply.

If a PSU like the Corsair CX series was bad, then most people in the world probably have a bad power supply. Because there is so much stuff that isn't as good as the Corsair CX series. The Corsair CX series is just a simple budget line from Corsair. If it's a good choice or not depends on the price, but it's no where near bad.

The Corsair CX line-up isn't close to being the worst power supply in the world, but It's not on the same level as Seasonic's selling at the same price point (including rebrands). Also, sometimes the good Super Flower psu's are selling for the same price if not cheaper. I don't think I've heard anyone say It's the worst, but you've got even Corsair saying that this power supply is not ideal ideal for heavy load systems, they simple state ''for office use'' on their own page, which for me is plenty confirmation that there are better options. I think at this price point It's all about price/performance ratio, and the Corsair CX is never a winner of that. Yet, for more than enough consumers, it does come home as the winner. It is definitely still overrated. Do you disagree with that? Because that's what most reputable users on here will tell you exactly really. I'm running a Corsair CX 430w in my FX-8320E+GTX 950 setup, the 430 watts I found to be a good option for this system.

 

[PSUGod]

Right a gaming PSU, that doesn't exist...

There is just low quality and high quality and everything between that. Corsair is selling the CX(M) series because most people don't know anything about power supplies, this forum is also a great example. The difference is that people here tink the know, but they don't. If you take the Corsair CX750(M), that PSU won't have a problem with handeling two high-end or mainstream graphics cards. The quality and performance only isn't that high, so it doesn't life as long, but that doesn't mean it's a bad power supply.

The only thing is that if you can buy two high-end or mainstream graphics card you should go for a high-end power supply and not for a low-end. But that doesn't make the Corsair CX(M) series bad!

 

[Someone Somewhere]

If it has a specified duty cycle <100% or has high failure rates within the warranty period (and note that the CX series has a fairly short warranty) when run at full power for long periods, I would consider that poor quality and borderline false marketing.

 

[PSUGod]

What about the XFX XT(new series) PSU ??

http://www.xfxforce.com/en-us/products/xt-series-bronze-full-wired

It's designed by Seasonic but build by RSY. It's a double forward design with group regulation. So it doesn't have support for the C6 and C7 power states from Haswell, Broadwell and Skylake.

Performance and quality should be comparable to Corsair CX430/500/600 Bronze.

 

[PSUGod]

If it has a specified duty cycle <100% or has high failure rates within the warranty period (and note that the CX series has a fairly short warranty) when run at full power for long periods, I would consider that poor quality and borderline false marketing.

You know PSU's like the nameless EVGA 80PLUS PSU's and B series, all build by HEC aren't any better right? Same goes for Cooler Master B serie, Antec Basiq or VP PC series, or any other low-end serie from any other manufacturer for that matter.

All are comparable or worse.

 

[RCFProd]

If it has a specified duty cycle <100% or has high failure rates within the warranty period (and note that the CX series has a fairly short warranty) when run at full power for long periods, I would consider that poor quality and borderline false marketing.

You know PSU's like the nameless EVGA 80PLUS PSU's and B series, all build by HEC aren't any better right? Same goes for Cooler Master B serie, Antec Basiq or VP PC series, or any other low-end serie from any other manufacturer for that matter.

All are comparable or worse.

No doubt about that, I think the same.

 

[Someone Somewhere]

I believe the VP series is slightly better than the rest, but not much.

They are PSUs that you would not recommend unless there was a serious budget constraint.

 

[PSUGod]

I believe the VP series is slightly better than the rest, but not much.

There doesn't exists one VP series, there are many different ones.

VPxxxPC is the cheapest build by CWT, then there is VPxxx, VPxxxP, VPxxxF, VPxxxP V2, VPxxxPM but the most interesting one is the VPFxxx build by Delta based on a double forward design with DC converters.

They are PSUs that you would not recommend unless there was a serious budget constraint.

Well it all depends on which one you mean, the price you can get them, other PSU that are available and your budget. There is a real big gap between crap like Keerda, Linkworld, Leadman, Codegen and the best consumer PSU available (Corsair AX1500i).

 

[Someone Somewhere]

And they're usually not separated out by subversion.

Of course there's a great difference from best to worst quality. That can be said about just about everything.

 

[kwa-e]

From what I've seen delta units seem to be well received by communities like JG and HardOCP for being solid/decent units, does the same apply for their OEM units?

 

[CTurbo]

The Delta built Antec Basiq and VP series units are much better options in the same price range compared to the CX 430/500. Reliability isn't even a fair comparison between the two.

From what I've seen delta units seem to be well received by communities like JG and HardOCP for being solid/decent units, does the same apply for their OEM units?

Yes.

 

[FALC0N]

Why do I bother coming here? No idea. Probably because I don't like seeing such misinformation spread as fact. Just look at the chain of posts:

First: Made up information

Result: Other user than extrapolates that entire company is in the crapper because of said misinformation.

I've said it before in this very thread. In my opinion, this whole list is comprised of misinformation and opinion. And not just Corsair. But Antec, Enermax... This list serves to do little but show fan boyism. But, yes. The one at LTT is a hell of a lot worse.

I think he got a little carried with the tone, but he a lot closer to the truth than most of you would like to admit. The list, itself, is quite sloppy with very questionable standards. I also see group think, supported by very questionable evidence, along with a palpable anti-corsair bias.

I say that as someone who has not been a big fan of recent Corsair offerings, but there is little question in my mind that we have been grossly unfair in our critiques.

 

[kwa-e]

The Delta built Antec Basiq and VP series units are much better options in the same price range compared to the CX 430/500. Reliability isn't even a fair comparison between the two.

From what I've seen delta units seem to be well received by communities like JG and HardOCP for being solid/decent units, does the same apply for their OEM units?

Yes.

Good to know, planning to start a pc building business and I need units to stand the test of time. The real challenge is trying to find a supplier here in the PH that's willing to ship small quantities...

 

[kwa-e]

Why do I bother coming here? No idea. Probably because I don't like seeing such misinformation spread as fact. Just look at the chain of posts:

First: Made up information

Result: Other user than extrapolates that entire company is in the crapper because of said misinformation.

I've said it before in this very thread. In my opinion, this whole list is comprised of misinformation and opinion. And not just Corsair. But Antec, Enermax... This list serves to do little but show fan boyism. But, yes. The one at LTT is a hell of a lot worse.

I think he got a little carried with the tone, but he a lot closer to the truth than most of you would like to admit. The list, itself, is quite sloppy with very questionable standards. I also see group think, supported by very questionable evidence, along with a palpable anti-corsair bias.

I say that as someone who has not been a big fan of recent Corsair offerings, but there is little question in my mind that we have been grossly unfair in our critiques.

That and we've been marked as lunatics due to our bias in other forums.

 

[Vic 40]

Performance and quality should be comparable to Corsair CX430/500/600 Bronze.

Would you use these in a gaming build looking at price/performance and what's more available?

 

[logainofhades]

I couldn't recommend the CX line, 500w+, right now, even if they were of better quality, than they are.

The Evga B2 series 750w has them beat with its current pricing. $65 for a superflower built, modular, 750w is a steal.