PSU tier list 2.0

[EV_Creeper]

Guys, need some help. EVGA 750 B2 or EVGA 650GS, for a system that will mainly have an i5-6500 and R9 390? the GS is more expensive than the B2 for around $15 dollars here in México.

 

[superninja12]

but turbo there is apperantly clearly a difference in terms of quality from those psus.

 

[superninja12]

gs, there is a clear difference in quality. ev creeper

 

[Deleted member 217926]

EVGA has gone the Corsair route with trying to get as many model lines as possible on the market here recently. As I'm not privy to either companies business models I can't say why it makes sense but it does to them. I'd guess market saturation plays into it.

Superninja while there is a difference in quality ( and warranty length ) the real world difference is pretty small. None of those units are in any danger of being out of spec and damaging components or anything like that. Regulation is good enough for all but extreme overclocking etc.

 

[toyftw]

Personally, I'm still scratching my head as to why EVGA feels like it needs to clutter the market with as many similarly equipped and similarly priced psus from as many oems as possible like the G2, GS, and GQ.

I 2nd that ^^^

 

[Nuckles_56]

The only reason I can think of is that both superflower and seasonic have been struggling to keep up with demand

 

[Someone Somewhere]

Guys, need some help. EVGA 750 B2 or EVGA 650GS, for a system that will mainly have an i5-6500 and R9 390? the GS is more expensive than the B2 for around $15 dollars here in México.

I'd grab the B2. Quality should be comparable, just not modular and slightly less efficient.

The only reason I can think of is that both superflower and seasonic have been struggling to keep up with demand

That's what I've heard.

 

[xXCrossfireXx]

Take your pick. I'll let you look up the reviews.

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1750bbefx

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-210gq0750

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-power-supply-ea750platinum

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1750snlb9

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-ss750am2

I'd pick any of these over a Photon. All within $5 of your stated price. Most are cheaper.

B . And I love how you say build quality, it's made with high quality Japanese capacitors

Did you even read the review you linked to?

"Build Quality (20% of the final score) - I've been mulling over that broken PCB for days trying to figure out how to score on that. It's a random thing that could happen to any OEM, but it comes from an OEM I used to see stuff like this from frequently. I think I'll pull one full point on that today, because it was in a non critical spot, and call it a day. If I see it again from Sirfa, I might be more harsh. One point more for the sleeve bearing fan. The soldering gets a half point deduction too. Love the capacitor choices though. 7.5."

Btw, I think pretty much everyone knows that with power supplies, if they work, they really can't perform better than that

Yeah......no. Really just no.

• I only got to the first PSU when I realized it was $110 on newegg. Great job reading.

• The broken PCB was specific to his unit

• Really, just yes

 

[superninja12]

crossfire, do u really think if u put a hec or generic unit in it for 1 year, and youre plaing games like ds3 gta 5 on high /ultra.
you wont damage your components?

 

[xXCrossfireXx]

crossfire, do u really think if u put a hec or generic unit in it for 1 year, and youre plaing games like ds3 gta 5 on high /ultra.
you wont damage your components?

I really don't :/

 

[Nuckles_56]

I guess, you can find out for yourself if you wish, but we are just trying to avoid you losing all of those expensive parts thanks to having a power supply which is lethal to said parts

 

[CTurbo]

but turbo there is apperantly clearly a difference in terms of quality from those psus.

I can't tell if this is supposed to be a sarcastic remark, but I disagree.

 

[xXCrossfireXx]

I guess, you can find out for yourself if you wish, but we are just trying to avoid you losing all of those expensive parts thanks to having a power supply which is lethal to said parts

I don't believe lethal would be the correct word, this unit is pretty much functioning as a tier 2, plus a tier 3 unit isn't even lethal to parts. It's also got great reviews on newegg, high quality capacitors, and great ripple suppression. The only "issue" is the voltage stability, which is average on the Photon. You can read the review on JohnnyGuru

 

[superninja12]

can only mods post gifs? i want to post a gif.

 

[xXCrossfireXx]

Btw how do I unsubscribe to the thread? I feel like this dispute is headed in the wrong direction, and I really don't want to fight over a power supply.

 

[superninja12]

under the first post click on unfollow and unsubscribe

 

[xXCrossfireXx]

under the first post click on unfollow and unsubscribe

Sweet, thanks.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Torres is a very generous reviewer. You'll find that in many reviews he doesn't even mention the caps, and he gives units like the TR2 a pretty decent conclusion. But that's just his opinion of course, we can have our own.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

I guess, you can find out for yourself if you wish, but we are just trying to avoid you losing all of those expensive parts thanks to having a power supply which is lethal to said parts

I don't believe lethal would be the correct word, this unit is pretty much functioning as a tier 2, plus a tier 3 unit isn't even lethal to parts. It's also got great reviews on newegg, high quality capacitors, and great ripple suppression. The only "issue" is the voltage stability, which is average on the Photon. You can read the review on JohnnyGuru

I like the Photon. It is just as good as the EVGA GS series.

 

[Darkbreeze]

The only real issue with it was the voltage stability.

Which just happens to be just about the single BIGGEST problem you DON'T want to see a power supply have. A little noise or a little ripple can be tolerated, somewhat, but "a little" voltage regulation gone bad can mean the end of everything in your case, in very short order.

 

[Darkbreeze]

And I love how you say build quality, it's made with high quality Japanese capacitors

So you're saying that if I gave YOU a PCB and a handful of Japanese capacitors, along with the rest of the components required to build a power supply, and the necessary soldering tools, you could assemble one with the same quality as say, Seasonic? Exactly, not. Just because component selection is good, does NOT mean that build quality is good. Poor soldering, bad placement in the design phase for internal arrangement of components, lack of heatsinks, poor cooling configuration or scheme and fifty other things can all result in a poorly built/designed unit regardless of whether it uses nothing by rubycon caps or some third rate brand.

 

[EV_Creeper]

So... The EVGA 750 B2 running at 60% capacity is just as good as a EVGA 650GS running at 70% capacity, but with a little extra headroom, am I right?

 

[Darkbreeze]

Personally, I think the B2 is a better unit at any capacity.

 

[EV_Creeper]

May I ask why? I don't know much about power supplies, and the fact that you choose a tier 2 bronze unit instead of a tier 1 gold unit intrigues me

 

[Karadjgne]

Don't mistake efficiency labels as anything other than that. Just because a unit is labeled with 'Gold' doesn't mean it's any better or worse than a unit labeled 'Bronze'. It's just an efficiency rating of somewhere over 80% at 20%/50%/100% loads.

On the flip side, chances are good that a gold unit is better designed than a Bronze unit, use of tighter spec'd circuitry, better caps etc all leading to better efficiency. But thats just design. Says nothing for the actual build or the ability of the design. There are plenty of gold units with such poor implementation that they honestly should never have been built. The Corsair RM 750/850 for example. Excellent ripple, voltage, everything but thermal. Such poor implementation that thermally reaching 100% load was a serious issue. Failure after failure on load testing, but rated gold and priced way over reality. Give me a Seasonic or xfx 750 anyday.

The tier ratings are a guide. They are based on reviews from ppl who know what a psu really is, down to its bones. But they remain opinions based mainly on new tested units. The one thing the tiers represent over just the reviews is also user opinion. Take the Corsair CX line. Most tested very well when new, easily tier 3 or better. Time being used however has shown average lifespans to be around 18 months. That's pathetic, so is factored into tier rating. Why choose a tier2 bronze over a tier1 gold? Apart from price, usage and other considerations, that tier2 bronze unit is proven. It's been through the wash and come out shining. The tier1 hasn't.