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Cooler Master 600w, fan went bunk after 3 months. Wad in a hurry so dropped in a TT I'd picked up from Radio Shack for $4 that I had kicking around. 8 years later, the noisy bastage is still working. Had a fan go out in the stock psu of my Dell 8400 (top loaded) and have replaced several noisy fans in many different branded psus, but that was due mainly to poor maintenance and letting dust/debris screw up the balance of the fan until the bearings fried. Seems everybody knows to clean the cpu cooler and gpu fins, but evidently cleaning the psu fan is a foreign concept.
 
In the old days of the IBM PC, XT, and even AT, I saw numerous PSU fan failures; they'd lock up. In the more modern era, the last CM PSU I bought maybe a dozen years ago had it's fan fail in weeks. I think that's around the time I discovered that CM PSUs were craptastic, and although I replaced the fan in that one, within another month it had gone into the grabbage.
I ran my Asus 970 Strix with an i5-4690K on a 450W Rosewill Capstone for months. I didn't play any really demanding games on it, but don't remember my UPS showing over 300W pulled from it unless another system was also running. I've recently put in a GTX950 instead.
 
I wish every psu was a better deal in bangladesh. Nearly every unit (except cheaptech, darkteck, ballKing craps) are overpriced here. I got the CM V550 full modular for about 110 usd recently.
 


That might be one of the top five stupidest tech related statements I've ever heard. Where did you read that at? I'd like to know where to avoid in the future, or was that some dipshit tool on the forums saying that?
 
Just the fact that they state that there is "massive overclocking headroom" on either of those CPUs is a FAIL of the highest magnitude for ASRock. Especially considering that there is generally NO overclocking headroom. In fact, in many cases, they have to be underclocked in order to find stability.

Maybe we should start calling them ASCRock.
 
Yeah, I had to read it twice, just to be sure I read it right the first time, maybe someone else would read it differently, but to me, the cpus 8 core performance, massive overclocking headroom, plus a tdp of 220w, asrock is talking about the cpu, not the mobo. Misleading at best.
 
I cleared those two posts out. I believe we had specifically outlined not allowing build advice here before, and I suggest we go back to that. Users asking for specific build advice, not advice about a specific unit architecture or related unit specific information, should I think be advised to create their own "system specific" threads. Architecture here, component selection in new thread. Pretty sure that's what was determined as appropriate previously and we've gotten very slack on that recently.
 
I apologize if this has been brought up before or is considered common knowledge. But I have just noticed, and thought it might be a good idea to mention it here, that the Antec Earthwatts Green 650 seems to have an alarming number of reports from users at Newegg, here at Tom's and a few at Amazon of their units catching fire.
 
I went hunting, I could only find 2 threads on Tom's: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/361692-28-antec-caught-fire and http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-1626184/replacement-psu.html
As for Amazon and Newegg, there are definitely reports of them catching fire, mostly units which are at least a few months old already, but most of the reports seem to be around 2012-2014, with very few before or after that (possibly because they are less frequently purchased), but overall, the number isn't anything I'd call alarming
 


I apologize that I can't link directly to the individual Newegg user reviews, but if you go through the one- and two-egg reviews, I count nineteen reports of the units either producing significant amounts of smoke and strong burning smells or, in a number of cases, literally bursting into flames (that's not counting a couple of instances of people who reported it happening with more than one of the same model):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371044&cm_re=earthwatts_green_650-_-17-371-044-_-Product

Four more at Tom's and Amazon:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/361692-28-antec-caught-fire
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/263791-28-antec-earthwatts-blew
https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R1ZOPBBQI9O78Q/ref=cm_cr_getr_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B004NBZAES
https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R1WZDX20ENAC6C/ref=cm_cr_getr_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B004NBZAES

Two others found elsewhere, though it's possible either of them could be one of the same people from above:

http://forums.majorgeeks.com/index.php?threads/power-supply-fire-mobo-issue.271676/
http://www.saferproducts.gov/ViewIncident/1297133

I left out three or four more I found that mentioned only a burning smell, not any actual smoke or flame.

I mean, I do understand that this sort of thing can occasionally happen with even the very best equipment. QC isn't perfect. But when I checked user reviews for several other tier one and tier two 650-watt units and none of them had any reports like this at all (excepting a single one for one EVGA model,) it's hard to dismiss it as just business as usual, you know?

I am sorry if I was out of line to mention it.
 


http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12775

Looks like they will be a HEC OEM PSU.

http://www.orionpsudb.com/news/evga-will-launch-yet-another-line-bq-by-hec

I think EVGA is saturating the market. They have so many lines and so many different OEMs it is getting annoying trying to remember if G1 and G2 are the same as B1 and B2 OEM wise or not...
 


What makes it more complex is that the Supernova 850 GS and 1050 GS say "G" on the box so people think they are G1 but they are not. The newer GS units, the 650 GS and 550 GS, actually say "GS" on the box, but the older ones just say "G" and have the text "Silent" in the corner since it is actually the G Silent series (AKA GS).

Another source of confusion is that people tend to think the NEX G is different from the G1, but technically according to the model numbers the NEX 650G and NEX 750G are G1 units. To make it more confusing, the 1000 G1 isn't called NEX G, so it's all funky. Though the OEMs are different, so it somewhat makes sense. But in no way is EVGA's lineup more confusing than Thermaltake or Silverstone's. Thermaltake revises their units and doesn't provide identification that it is a revision, they have a gazillion toughpowers novody can keep track of. Silverstone units don't usually have easy-to-remember names and can only be memorized by their crazy model numbers which I think only the guys on Jonnyguru know by heart.

I think EVGA's lineup is among the easiest to remember personally, mostly since it has no revisions and the names are short and sweet.
 
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