PSU tier list 2.0

[jimmysmitty]

Evga has released a BQ series. Haven't seen any info, on them yet.

http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=110-BQ-0650-V1

http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12775

Looks like they will be a HEC OEM PSU.

http://www.orionpsudb.com/news/evga-will-launch-yet-another-line-bq-by-hec

I think EVGA is saturating the market. They have so many lines and so many different OEMs it is getting annoying trying to remember if G1 and G2 are the same as B1 and B2 OEM wise or not...

What makes it more complex is that the Supernova 850 GS and 1050 GS say "G" on the box so people think they are G1 but they are not. The newer GS units, the 650 GS and 550 GS, actually say "GS" on the box, but the older ones just say "G" and have the text "Silent" in the corner since it is actually the G Silent series (AKA GS).

Another source of confusion is that people tend to think the NEX G is different from the G1, but technically according to the model numbers the NEX 650G and NEX 750G are G1 units. To make it more confusing, the 1000 G1 isn't called NEX G, so it's all funky. Though the OEMs are different, so it somewhat makes sense. But in no way is EVGA's lineup more confusing than Thermaltake or Silverstone's. Thermaltake revises their units and doesn't provide identification that it is a revision, they have a gazillion toughpowers novody can keep track of. Silverstone units don't usually have easy-to-remember names and can only be memorized by their crazy model numbers which I think only the guys on Jonnyguru know by heart.

I think EVGA's lineup is among the easiest to remember personally, mostly since it has no revisions and the names are short and sweet.

True but I guess it depends. If we look at Corsair for a true gaming machine most people will not consider anything lower than a RMx (Gold, non digital) and then from there it is only RMi (gold digital), HXi (platinum digital) and AXi (platinum digital except the AX1500i which is Titanium although I expect the AXi to become Corsairs Titanium line since HXi is platinum too).

Anything lower is no good for anything but as replacements for stock basic desktop PCs.

I guess it all depends on how you remember things. I think EVGA has too many lines personally. I think a lot of companies do.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Personally I could care less for all this PSU software stuff. Seems like a bunch of unnecessary stuff to me. The AXI is cool because it uses the most advanced technologies out of any PSU in the consumer market, having all digital instead of analog ICs inside (which is why the voltage regulation is so perfect). But man, I can't see myself ever paying the huge price for an AXi, as good as they are.

 

[CTurbo]

EVGA has way too may psu lines. I don't understand their marketing approach at all. It's almost like they're trying to have something by every major supplier.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

EVGA has way too may psu lines. I don't understand their marketing approach at all. It's almost like they're trying to have something by every major supplier.

It works. I'd put my money on EVGA being the best seller in consumer PSU for 2015-16 probably. Though Corsair might still have that trophy. But really, they don't nearly have as much as Thermaltake and a lot of other brands.

 

[jimmysmitty]

Personally I could care less for all this PSU software stuff. Seems like a bunch of unnecessary stuff to me. The AXI is cool because it uses the most advanced technologies out of any PSU in the consumer market, having all digital instead of analog ICs inside (which is why the voltage regulation is so perfect). But man, I can't see myself ever paying the huge price for an AXi, as good as they are.

There is one benefit to the software, virtual rails. You can create up to 6 virtual rails and set how much power you want each to have. I guess it is a way of controlling the power a device can take.

As well you can set the fan speed and set it to shut down the PC if something hits a temp you don't like.

 

[Karadjgne]

For a server psu, that works. It's the one place where power demand-control-throttle would be of some use. But in a consumer psu? There's enough stuff to tinker with in an average pc, nevermind a high end enthusiast class build, that adding more settings is reminiscent of the days of ms-dos, when everything had to be manually punched in. Windows 95 introduced plug-n-play for lazy, uneducated ppl like me. Any reason we can't leave it like that?

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Let me clear up some confusion. if I'm correct, on a 6-pin PCIe cable, aren't one of the 12V pins not actually doing anything, making it 2 12V cables, and when it is 8-pin it uses that 12V wire then?

 

[Karadjgne]

Depends. There's 2 actual 12v yellow wires, many psus use 3 with the center wire as 12v aswell, just as there is pin out for 3 grounds, but in actuality the center pin is a ground sensor wire, not an actual ground. Atx specs require just the outside 2x yellows as 12v, the center pin is optional in a 6 pin, but would be used in a 6+2 pin.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Depends. There's 2 actual 12v yellow wires, many psus use 3 with the center wire as 12v aswell, just as there is pin out for 3 grounds, but in actuality the center pin is a ground sensor wire, not an actual ground. Atx specs require just the outside 2x yellows as 12v, the center pin is optional in a 6 pin, but would be used in a 6+2 pin.

What does the ground sensor wire do?

 

[BadActor]

The new and improved CX 600(apparently).

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/sCH323/corsair-power-supply-cx600m

 

[Karadjgne]

The sensors areally triggers. When a 6pin is used in a gpu, the sensor wire pin basically tells the gpu that it's a 6pin connector, so only pull 75w from the 2 hots. If you hook up a 6+2, there 2 sensors and an additional ground so the sensors tell the gpu that it can pull additional power from the 3rd 12v wire and there's a 3rd ground for use. It's why a 6pin can sometimes work in an 8pin gpu or use with a 6-8pin adapter as a 6pin itself is capable of 150w on the 3 hots, but stifled by only 2 grounds.

 

[Inkiad]

The new and improved CX 600(apparently).

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/sCH323/corsair-power-supply-cx600m

$130 for that CXM 600W? No sir thank you.

 

[Nuckles_56]

The new and improved CX 600(apparently).

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/sCH323/corsair-power-supply-cx600m

They didn't replace the CX600 with a new model, it was replaced by the CXM650 and CXM550 instead

 

[wellhillo]

Maybe it's just me, but is the RMx series from corsair in tier 1 or 2?

 

[BadActor]

The new and improved CX 600(apparently).

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/sCH323/corsair-power-supply-cx600m

$130 for that CXM 600W? No sir thank you.

Somebody actually recommended that in a thread I'm in.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Maybe it's just me, but is the RMx series from corsair in tier 1 or 2?

Tier 1... It's like right at the top!

Man for $130 you can get some wicked awesome stuff.

 

[jimmysmitty]

The new and improved CX 600(apparently).

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/sCH323/corsair-power-supply-cx600m

$130 for that CXM 600W? No sir thank you.

Somebody actually recommended that in a thread I'm in.

Sound like idjits then because

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=cx650m&N=-1&isNodeId=1

Half the price for a newer model. Or get a RMx 750 or RMx850 for the same price or an EVGA G2.

That is just stupid pricing for that PSU.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

The new CXM units are pretty good, but only the Vengeance line (which sold in, I think, Germany and other European areas) has all Japanese electrolytic caps. The CXM that we all get is basically the same thing but with a multi rail design and not all Japanese electrolytic filtering caps. Nonetheless, I think the CX450M is a pretty solid unit for the price, and I think CWT knew where Japanese caps would and would not be needed.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Wouldn't it be funny if we started using horsepowe instead of watts for power supplies? Like my EVGA 1.14 horse power power supply 😛

 

[USAFRet]

Wouldn't it be funny if we started using horsepowe instead of watts for power supplies? Like my EVGA 1.14 horse power power supply 😛

Some PSUs would be measured in mouse or gerbil power.
RAIDMAX get between 1/3 and 1/2 gerbil.

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

http://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon/superflower-leadex-platinum-8-pack-edition-2000w-review/
This would be rocket powered.

 

[Turb0Yoda]

So... Four Titan X's(or some more power hungry cards), dual Xeon setup?

 

[CTurbo]

2000w? Must be aimed directly at mining or FX9590 + R9 290x owners lol




Ironically, +1000w psus should be mostly irrelevant in a couple of years.

 

[Karadjgne]

With what nvidia has done with the 1070/1080 and amd has done with the 480, looks like sli/xfire will also become irrelevant at about the same time.

 

[Inkiad]

Seeing "8 pack" first time........ Godzilla found his power supply i guess.

Edit: For projects like LinusTechTips 10 gamer 1 pc, it would be a obvious pick imo.