PSU tier list 2.0

[jimmysmitty]

Seasonic Prime Titanium 750W reviewhttp://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=481

So it looks like this unit joins the AX1500i in the perfect score category. Good for Seasonic. Then again I would expect them to have a damn good Titanium rated line since they are expected to be decent even on the low end.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Seasonic Prime Titanium 750W reviewhttp://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=481

So it looks like this unit joins the AX1500i in the perfect score category. Good for Seasonic. Then again I would expect them to have a damn good Titanium rated line since they are expected to be decent even on the low end.

I'm more interested in the Gold lineup when that comes out. The voltage regulation is really good for an analog platform on the Prime Titanium 750W.

 

[Someone Somewhere]

Instead of tiers, why not just:

Not ok.
Ok.
High end.

Could we please drop this argument? We must have used up five plus pages going round and round in circles.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Corsair CX450M, $26 new on Newegg. $4 promo code and $20 rebate. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139146

 

[Onus]

If I didn't have three spare PSUs right now (300W 80+ bronze Seasonic, Corsair CS450M, and my SG-650), I'd grab one, just because.

 

[logainofhades]

If I had a use for it, I would consider one, also. Right now I do not.

 

[Karadjgne]

A 550, that'd be worth buying just to sit on the shelf, but nothing I can do with a 450w psu.

 

[logainofhades]

A 550, that'd be worth buying just to sit on the shelf, but nothing I can do with a 450w psu.

I would need the CX650m, at minimum.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

A 550, that'd be worth buying just to sit on the shelf, but nothing I can do with a 450w psu.

I'll never understand you...

 

[logainofhades]

Well a 450w PSU is not very useful, to keep as a backup, for many of us. I would melt a 450w.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Well a 450w PSU is not very useful, to keep as a backup, for many of us. I would melt a 450w.

It's useful for a modern day system with a single GPU, even with overclocking.

 

[logainofhades]

Not with my system. My 780ti classified would destroy it. My particular model uses as much, if not more power, than a 290x.

Edit:
Found the review on it, and yea it is more.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_780_Ti_Classified/22.html

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Not with my system. My 780ti classified would destroy it. My particular model uses as much, if not more power, than a 290x.

Edit:
Found the review on it, and yea it is more.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_780_Ti_Classified/22.html

That's 286W only. Not quite more than a 290X. Furmark really doesn't count, either, since that's unrealistic. But I suppose it is high enough where, depending on what CPU used, one could want a 550W PSU instead.

 

[logainofhades]

Try 326w maximum, just from the graphics card. I fold on my GPU. I have a 6700k also.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Yes but you're an exception and for gaming typically it is 250W-286W according to that. Also I noted that my original thing said modern day system with a single GPU. The 780Ti is two gens old now, back when power requirements from both AMD and Nvidia were quite high. But in terms of GTX 1080 or any of the new GPUs, a 450W unit is perfect.

 

[logainofhades]

It would still be considered modern, from a performance standpoint. My card is just slightly faster than a GTX 970. It's just power hungry. The 390x isn't all that old, and it was just as bad, power wise.

 

[Lutfij]

I'm an architect by profession and if you utter the word modern I'll be all over it with a lecture so please accept my apologies if I don't explain it in this thread, Turkey, though you're going to have to understand that the unit can be used in certain situations. If you avoided the word modern altogether then the topic might not have risen.

On the topic of powering GPU's, I yet own an XFX HD6870 BE card and it can play the fiddle without issues but the power draw on it is more than I'd like to trust with that Corsair unit. PSU's are considered as the heart of a system so a heart attack can and will be fatal to it. Exceptions should not be made nor considered since a systembuilder will account that a system can be pushed to it's limits and should be built as such even in the face of budget crisis which is where the consumer needs to be informed of any shortcomings they should accept.

BTW, you do realize you went into contradiction with the tier list's advice:

Tier Four

Built down to a low price. Not exactly the most stable units ever created. Very basic safety circuitry or even thin gauge wiring used. Not for gaming rigs or overclocking systems of any kind. Avoid unless your budget dictates your choice.

...CX450M huh?

Inkiad,
I'd love to see that ToughBall 850W listing and furthermore the people who buy it.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

I'm an architect by profession and if you utter the word modern I'll be all over it with a lecture so please accept my apologies if I don't explain it in this thread, Turkey, though you're going to have to understand that the unit can be used in certain situations. If you avoided the word modern altogether then the topic might not have risen.

On the topic of powering GPU's, I yet own an XFX HD6870 BE card and it can play the fiddle without issues but the power draw on it is more than I'd like to trust with that Corsair unit. PSU's are considered as the heart of a system so a heart attack can and will be fatal to it. Exceptions should not be made nor considered since a systembuilder will account that a system can be pushed to it's limits and should be built as such even in the face of budget crisis which is where the consumer needs to be informed of any shortcomings they should accept.

BTW, you do realize you went into contradiction with the tier list's advice:

Tier Four

Built down to a low price. Not exactly the most stable units ever created. Very basic safety circuitry or even thin gauge wiring used. Not for gaming rigs or overclocking systems of any kind. Avoid unless your budget dictates your choice.

...CX450M huh?

Inkiad,
I'd love to see that ToughBall 850W listing and furthermore the people who buy it.

The CX450M is new and based on the Corsair RM units, albeit a lot cheaper. Perfect point on why the tier list is outdated anyway. You can read the review here https://tweakers.net/productreview/136105/corsair-cx450m.html and for $50 regularly (or in this case $30 with rebate) is one of the best on the market for price/performance.

 

[Lutfij]

You missed the rest 85% of the post I made.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

I wouldn't feel uncomfortable with the XFX HD6870 BE on that PSU. According to the Tweaktown review, the system setup they had (I7-980X @4.2Ghz & XFX 6870 BE) had a maximum of 298W under load (and yes that graph is for the entire computer, not just the GPU). Take into account that that is the maximum, then take into account an older more power-hungry CPU that is overclocked, so a system with a more recent Intel CPU and that GPU will probably be around the 250W mark while gaming moreso or even less possibly.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4000/xfx_radeon_hd_6870_1gb_black_edition_video_card_review/index17.html

Or from the Tomshardware review of the reference 6870 shows it is very efficient; again, whole system under load, not just the GPU.

 

[Lutfij]

Again, you're not reading the post I made. Go to the first post in this thread, scroll down to the tier list and then scroll further down to see when said initial post was edited.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Again, you're not reading the post I made. Go to the first post in this thread, scroll down to the tier list and then scroll further down to see when said initial post was edited.

I read your entire August 17, 2016 2:16:04 PM post, I don't know what you're saying

 

[CTurbo]

I have no doubt that the new CX units are much better than the outgoing CX units, but I'm not so quick to trust them so completely. They have plenty of time to win me over if they deserve it.

 

[Lutfij]

^Agreed!

 

[logainofhades]

The numbers, that I showed, were for GPU only. Mine is more power hungry than a reference 780ti, by a fair margin. Hence why I want a GTX 1070 so badly. Had it been total system draw, I would have agreed that it would have been safe.