PSU tier list 2.0

[superninja12]

i got the seasonic m12ii evo in 2015 and it is not in the list and it is unrated yet :/ what tier is this ? is my seasonic have build in surge protector ?

it is in tier 2 and a great product

 

[Someone Somewhere]

Kill-a-watts are useless.

Probably averaging or even peak value (not true RMS) and don't look at power factor.

Might be OK for a kettle, not so much for something like a switchmode PSU.

 

[Inkiad]

M12II EVO is a very good power supply. Nearly every PSU has some sort of surge protection.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

A lot of them don't actually have MOVs (or TVS diodes) but APFC can absorb surges to an extent.

 

[superninja12]

tierlist update suggestion: corsair rmx series tier 1, since its jsut as good as the g2 and gs series.
(about the gs series yes the 550w and 650w should be tier 2 and the higherwattage versions tier 1)

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Somebody is going to say "RMx already is tier 1"
Then I reply: "I think super ninja meant all the other RMx since only the 1000 is on the list".

I foresaw the future and prevented an extra post 😀

 

[superninja12]

Somebody is going to say "RMx already is tier 1"
Then I reply: "I think super ninja meant all the other RMx since only the 1000 is on the list".

I foresaw the future and prevented an extra post 😀

damn i wanted to add that damn youre good turkey.

 

[prince_13]

i got the seasonic m12ii evo in 2015 and it is not in the list and it is unrated yet :/ what tier is this ? is my seasonic have build in surge protector ?

it is in tier 2 and a great product

but it is a 2015 version and still un-tiered in list :/

 

[jimmysmitty]

You buy a $39 CWT Corsair and it dies in 18 months. What are the chances you RMA it? Slim? None? Chances are it's only going 1 place, the bin. So RMA's are totally unreliable. You spend $120 for a Seasonic built Corsair and it dies in 18 months, that's a different story. It would be easy to have 100 Seasonic RMA in its 5 yr Warranty, but you could just as easy have 10,000 CWT die within its 3 yrs, only to have 100 RMA, simply cuz they died in the first week, not 18 months later.

But that is all conjecture and there is no way of knowing how many Seasonics may not get RMAed either. People do tend to get pretty lazy after all.

Not saying Seasonic is bad but you can't rely on unknown data to prove a point about reliability for hardware. With hardware we can only rely on concrete numbers and even then we have to be able to pick and weed out the faulty ones, i.e. a guy hooks a PSU up wrong and it dies.

 

[Inkiad]

I think the most common cause for psu dying is heat and inappropriate load.

 

[degreesofuncertainty]

i think its time to update the list on the 1st page..

 

[Inkiad]

Only the OP dotorrent can do that and he is inactive for quite some time.

 

[dottorrent]

Surprise!

Umm.... To explain my disappearance (There's probably a search party by the TH police), I have been extremely busy with a few too many things. As a result, I have been inactive for nearly 2 months. So don't worry, I am alive and well.

Now, the tier list is being updated as this post is being posted. Sit tight and list will be made. A PSU clean up is also in the process, with announced units not coming being thrown out immediately.

I wanna thank all the moderators and experts for filling my place in, helping out each and every rookie system builder out there whilst I was gone.

I shall see you guys soon.

Torrent

 

[turkey3_scratch]

If you could do torrent, making notes of what you change and posting it here so we could see would be nice.

 

[dottorrent]

PSU Cleanup 2016. These are units that are either no longer being sold for some time, some that have discontinued their PSU business operations and some that are generally a bit too old. Here is the analysis and conclusions -

All Chieftec units are gone. Fraudulent eCova 80+ efficiency rating stickers. Also, incredibly sparse and non-reputable review.
All InWin units are gone apart from a few that were just announced at Computex, Since they are no longer sold.
All KingWin units are gone. They are no longer producing PSUs.
All NOX units are gone. Reviews not reputable.
All NZXT units are gone due to NZXT coming out of the PSU business.
All Seventeam units being removed. They now only create platforms, not OEM units, at least for consumer use.
All Silverpower units are gone. They are no longer in business.

AkasaVenom power 2015 being removed. Unknown if being sold. or not.
Club3D CSP gold being disposed of. Unknown if being sold or not.
Cooler Master GX 2015 being replaced with CM Storm GX 2016. Rebranded. Still unknown tier since no reviews have been made.
Firepower Fatal1ty 2012 edition is being removed. 4 year old design based on old OCZ technology.
XFXPro V2 series units being removed. Production cancelled.

Thursday comes additions to the list. Sit tight guys.

Any suggestions for the cleanup will be greatly appreciated and considered.

Torrent

 

[superninja12]

oooh yeah remove the 1 raidmax model from tier 4 and add the complete lineup to tier 5

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Why? Raidmax has some great units like the RX-700AT. The Vampire is also pretty decent.

 

[Someone Somewhere]

Is it worth removing the ones that are no longer made? They'll still be in plenty of people's builds, and some of them will go 'oh god bad PSUs are dangerous', and try to find out about theirs.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Or maybe have a separate list which includes all the "extinct" power supplies for people who do need a reference for their older ones.

 

[Onus]

I think I'd rather see discontinued units denoted as such rather than being removed. Stores will have old stock, and people will wonder if their existing PSUs need to be replaced.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Perhaps a particular hue to denote it is removed. Like a slightly green unsaturated hue, with a hint of beige.

 

[Onus]

I'd make it a rust color.

 

[USAFRet]

I'd make it a rust color.

For some, animated flames.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Rainbow? I've seen it done with BBcode on other sites.

 

[dottorrent]

I'd make it a rust color.

For some, animated flames.

Nah, flames are too kind. Maybe either gunfire or explosions.

Also to note, i'll consider re-adding them. Maybe making a discontinued version of the list might alleviate the size of the list.