PSU tier list 2.0

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With higher standards and releases of great budget power supplies , the HEC EVGA models become a non viable option for most , unless your choices are restricted by your geographical region. I haven't come across a situation in months where I couldn't find a superior recommendation , at a better or similar price.
 
I think I paid $29.99 after rebate for my EVGA (HEC) 600B last year, but it was a super budget build with the cheapest motherboard and cheapest memory kit I could find while also reusing a couple old parts. Definitely not a unit for the average gaming box that has more than a $500 budget though.
 
It is a gaming build, but with a 4440 and R9 280, not exactly a high-end machine.

There's also the issue of it being compatible with Haswell and Skylake C-States because of how poorly it handles crossloads (being group regulated and all). The crossload tests are a little unrealistic, but all that being said my computer doesn't ever go into sleep so that's not a concern for me.

Whether or not I should be running that PSU 24/7 (not a max load folding machine or anything) is a whole other can of worms.
 
For light gaming builds they could be fine, too. It is true that owning a high quality PSU will increase the lifespan of your hardware, but realistically speaking, nobody is using hardware (at least productively) from 10 years ago. Sure, their super good PSU could still be working really well, but I'm sure they've changed out their entire computer in the past 10 years. I think something along the lines of 4 years seems to be pretty common for an upgrade, so a PSU with the superb ripple and all that is not necessary. Most power supplies should last pretty long, too. Good ones are rated for continuous operation under full load and the ambient temp, saying that it should last the warranty period under those conditions. Most people don't have those high ambient temps, and most people don't load the power supply fully 24/7.

Also, the 600B actually does very well with transient loads. https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/600B/8.html
 
I have a Sharkoon Silent Storm 660W semi modular And using it last 2 -3 years. Has very stable and accurate voltages and is powering my pretty OCed rig without any problems.
Wander why is it on such low tier scale ? Is the original test for some earlier model and this one wasn't included ?
 


A DMM? Plus the tier list is flawed anyway in that it throws certain brands into the bottom tier when you'll find once in a while they do have some decent units.
 
It's flawed in that every single unit has not been tested and reviewed, which is not the fault of the list. Huntkey is a perfect example. There is 1 decent unit, the Huntkey Jumper, which happened to be reviewed, and is good, the rest of Huntkey I wouldn't trust to be a reliable paperweight. If not for that 1 review, the Jumper too would have been lumped with the rest. Lousy.
 


It's making assumptions about units that have never been reviewed. I believe that is a no-no. We haven't placed the EVGA BQ units on there yet because we don't know how they are - we're not just going to guess. Jonnyguru should actually have a review of the BQ coming pretty soon so I believe. It is a better platform than the normal EVGA B units, updated with DC-DC converters and I'm not sure what else.
 
Making assumptions is no good, things not tested should be marked like that and not placed in any other group. I have good experience with this one for instance. According to that I can place it in tier 2. There's no many reviews for it but I took a chance on it and it payed off.
 
That was just my personal observation under working conditions. I didn't even open it to check parts and don't have exact measuring instruments but have many years of experience with computers and even longer with electronics and believe in my instincts.
In any case, I'm not here to promote it, I was just wandering why it was placed in such low group.
 


Just about every single Computer Enthusiast in the world knows about Tom's Hardware PSU List 2.0, previously known as Eggexpert PSU List. It's been around since 2010, and its earliest incarnation at Overclock.net has been around since 2009.

Similarly, if you are a PC Enthusiast, no matter if you live in Botswana, Zululand, Surinam, Bangladesh, Jawa, Kivalina, Alaska or Kamtschatka, you know who Johnny Guru is and you have spent hours upon hours reading his reviews.

If this Sharkoon company manufactured quality units and would like to let the fact be known amongst the Enthusiast crowd, that is to say us, they'd be sure to mail one or more of their units to JG for a review, or to other respected PSU expert, professional reviewers.

If I started a company that sold or manufactured PSU's, the first thing I'd do is send the units I retailed to JG and other professionals in the EU for a review.

The fact that Sharkoon chose not to do so and instead shut the f*** up and retailed their units silently, avoiding professional reviewers such as JG like the plague, means there is something fishy here.

This is like common sense 101. We are not building rockets here, mon.
 
Your Sharkoon is not going to be anything above mediocre. Also, Jonnyguru (person not the site since he works for Corsair) already knows how it performs; every PSU company buys the competing PSUs from every other company and tests them out. They just can't release this information.

Sharkoon doesn't send their products to reviewers because they are not good. These days I cannot get a good picture of a PSU from just a Jonnyguru review since Jonnyguru reviews unfortunately are stuck in the past due to their money limitations.

It also depends on how to define comouter enthusiast. To be fair PSU enthusiasts are not fond of the list (as I) and every other tier list but I'll keep that to myself since that always results in huge fights on here.
 


I am starting to wonder if you are getting paid to advertise Sharkoon.

Geoffrey, the Englishman (he can only be English with such a name) who wrote this review admits in the comment section below that:

"You're correct and I must confess that I don't have enough knowledge about quality capacitors and such stuff."

This is a guy who doesn't know an awful lot about PSU's, in fact he knows just the basics.

So, are we supposed to take this person to his word now? Why? Where's the reviews from professionals?

Are you trying to push Sharkoon around here, mon?
 
Who? Geoffrey?

Also keep in mind that a PSU of y wattage rated for x degrees with z years of warranty is supposed to last z years running at y load 24/7 under x ambient temperatures. So really depending on your computer usage, anything could last really long if you don't subject the PSU to high temperatures and load.
 
Turkey, you need a break man. Whether a psu is good or not has exactly nothing to do with the price. There's many psus that you wouldn't touch that are more expensive than ones you vehemently recommend. Price is an end result of marketing and strategy, not build cost.
 


What I meant to say was whether or not it's a good choice.
 
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