PSU tier list 2.0

[CurnRaisin]

Hi Whats your opinions on the G640M Its worst scoing on Jonnyguru was the value, but I find its reasonablly priced in the UK, and apart form that everything else was decent scores. Both alternative PSUs he mentions at the end of the review are a lot dearer, compared to it over here anyway.

What is the price on that unit?

£54

 

[turkey3_scratch]

So you're running two latest-gen GPUs I'm guessing which is why you need a 650W PSU? Or you are overclocking a system with an R9 390X? Either way a system that requires 650W is bound to be expensive which means your PSU should get some love also in your budget. But I have speculation you would be better off getting a 450W PSU for the same price.

 

[CurnRaisin]

So you're running two latest-gen GPUs I'm guessing which is why you need a 650W PSU? Or you are overclocking a system with an R9 390X? Either way a system that requires 650W is bound to be expensive which means your PSU should get some love also in your budget. But I have speculation you would be better off getting a 450W PSU for the same price.

It will be a Skylake K CPU, so OC is the plan for the future, as well as SLI being a option I would like to have. I understand the need for a good PSU but if I go to spend much higher then it means lowering the specs elsewhere. Looking at lower wattage at the same price , give or take £5. The few that stand out are Seasonic S12II-430W and Seasonic S1211-520, which are both non modular, and would they not also rule out going SLI? Reason I was looking at the G650M, was it was it got decent reviews with only being let down by the value and it left some leyway with the power use for future upgrades, whist also being hybrid modular which is a nice extra.

 

[Inkiad]

Most people plan for SLI, but actually never make it happen.

Anyway, i only recommend V full modular and Masterwatt series from coolermaster.

XFX core edition pro can be found in ~50 euro budget

 

[turkey3_scratch]

After Corsair's recent partnership it seems they're revamping the CXM units again.

Credit to Orion for the image

So you're running two latest-gen GPUs I'm guessing which is why you need a 650W PSU? Or you are overclocking a system with an R9 390X? Either way a system that requires 650W is bound to be expensive which means your PSU should get some love also in your budget. But I have speculation you would be better off getting a 450W PSU for the same price.

It will be a Skylake K CPU, so OC is the plan for the future, as well as SLI being a option I would like to have. I understand the need for a good PSU but if I go to spend much higher then it means lowering the specs elsewhere. Looking at lower wattage at the same price , give or take £5. The few that stand out are Seasonic S12II-430W and Seasonic S1211-520, which are both non modular, and would they not also rule out going SLI? Reason I was looking at the G650M, was it was it got decent reviews with only being let down by the value and it left some leyway with the power use for future upgrades, whist also being hybrid modular which is a nice extra.

The G650M is not any more capable for SLI than some 450W PSUs I can think of. Why? Because look at how many PCIe cables it has. It only has two 8-pin PCIe cables. The Corsair Vengeance 400W has the same amount. A good PSU would have something more along the lines of two 8-pin cables and two 6-pin cables, like the EVGA 650 G2. Then you have a PSU like the Corsair RM650x which has four 8-pin PCIe cables.

 

[CurnRaisin]

The G650M is not any more capable for SLI than some 450W PSUs I can think of. Why? Because look at how many PCIe cables it has. It only has two 8-pin PCIe cables. The Corsair Vengeance 400W has the same amount. A good PSU would have something more along the lines of two 8-pin cables and two 6-pin cables, like the EVGA 650 G2. Then you have a PSU like the Corsair RM650x which has four 8-pin PCIe cables.

Now I'm not pretending to know anything in detail about these but it says in the specs what it has "4 x 6+2pin PCI-E Power"
I thought that the 6+2pin do the same job as the 8pin?

 

[turkey3_scratch]

The G650M is not any more capable for SLI than some 450W PSUs I can think of. Why? Because look at how many PCIe cables it has. It only has two 8-pin PCIe cables. The Corsair Vengeance 400W has the same amount. A good PSU would have something more along the lines of two 8-pin cables and two 6-pin cables, like the EVGA 650 G2. Then you have a PSU like the Corsair RM650x which has four 8-pin PCIe cables.

Now I'm not pretending to know anything in detail about these but it says in the specs what it has "4 x 6+2pin PCI-E Power"
I thought that the 6+2pin do the same job as the 8pin?

Oh my bad you are right. Well it has more than I expected. The PSU itself actually performs very well. The biggest criticism of this power supply were the capacitors, Elite ones and some Jun Fu and Capxon. But who knows they could last a decent amount of time. For that price I'd say the PSU is not bad actually.

 

[Fabio_13]

Hi i'm going to buy that:

i3 6100
msi b150m night elf
msi gtx 1050 ti gaming or gtx 1060 OC 3GB

for this setup i can stay with my corsair vs 450, or it's a good ideia upgrade the psu? maybe buy a corsair cx 450 modular?

 

[Fabio_13]

Ok thx for the reply

I see in the calculator how much "power" i need, and this is the results:
OuterVision PSU Calculator part list

Motherboard: Desktop
Socket: Socket LGA 1151
CPU: 1 x Intel Core i5-6400
CPU Speed: 2700MHz
CPU Vcore: 1.2V
Memory: 1 x 8GB DDR4 Module
Video Card Set 1: 1 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
Core Clock: 1290MHz
Memory Clock: 1752MHz
Storage: 1 x SATA 5.4K RPM
Other Device: 0 x Front Bay Card Reader
Keyboard: 1 x Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: 1 x Gaming Mouse
Fan: 1 x 120mm
Fan: 1 x 80mm
Computer Utilization: 16 hours per day
Load Wattage: 229W
Recommended Wattage: 279W
Amperage: +3.3V: 9.7A, +5V: 7.9A, +12V: 17.3A
Recommended UPS Rating: 500VA
Generated by OuterVision PSU Calculator 2016-11-24 10:55:54

So i think the cx450 is a nice option 😛

ps: i put the i5 6400 on calculator.. so i'm going to buy the i3, so no problems

 

[Deleted member 217926]

The CX 450 is an upgrade to the VS series but honestly with an i3 and a 1050 Ti you're likely fine with the VS. The VS supplies plenty of power so you would only be upgrading based on quality and the VS isn't really that bad.

 

[Fabio_13]

Humm ok.. if i go to the i3/1050ti combo i stay with my psu

Just 1 thing.. if i want to upgrade from the i3 to the i5 it's better to change the psu os not?

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Humm ok.. if i go to the i3/1050ti combo i stay with my psu

Just 1 thing.. if i want to upgrade from the i3 to the i5 it's better to change the psu os not?

The difference in power in the two should be negligible.

 

[Deleted member 217926]

^ This. You're talking about a 51w TDP with the i3 vs a 65w TDP with the i5. It will make no difference to the power supply.

Edit: I would think about upgrading the VS if it's more than a few years old.

 

[Fabio_13]

My psu have 2.5 years.. and i use the pc every day to play csgo, cs 1.6 and web browsin

 

[CurnRaisin]

Hi been looking though the OP, but cant see any word on EVGA BQ series, are they of the same quality as the plain B? Every time I google for reviews it gets me reviews on the B model or the GQ ones.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Hi been looking though the OP, but cant see any word on EVGA BQ series, are they of the same quality as the plain B? Every time I google for reviews it gets me reviews on the B model or the GQ ones.

They are better. Here is one review http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=490 but they're seemingly inferior to the Corsair Vengeance and new CXM units.

 

[CurnRaisin]

They are better. Here is one review http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=490 but they're seemingly inferior to the Corsair Vengeance and new CXM units.

Well the last psu I was looking at was this that we already discussed but seen the EVGA is on quite a large discount. So it caught my attention, also the 850w has a decent discount on it too. Both score very similar in the Jonnyguru reviews, both being let down by value.

How do you know if your getting the old or new CXM units?

 

[turkey3_scratch]

They are better. Here is one review http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=490 but they're seemingly inferior to the Corsair Vengeance and new CXM units.

Well the last psu I was looking at was this that we already discussed but seen the EVGA is on quite a large discount. So it caught my attention, also the 850w has a decent discount on it too. Both score very similar in the Jonnyguru reviews, both being let down by value.

How do you know if your getting the old or new CXM units?

New CXM units have a grey label. The CX450M, 550M, and 650M are new. The CX750M and 850M are basically the same as the old ones (which were still good) but have a component upgraded for a 40C operating temperature.

 

[CurnRaisin]

Looked up some of the CXM 650w 850w and they are nearly double the price of the EVGA BQ equivalents.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Looked up some of the CXM 650w 850w and they are nearly double the price of the EVGA BQ equivalents.

I'm only familiar with the American markets.

 

[CurnRaisin]

Looked up some of the CXM 650w 850w and they are nearly double the price of the EVGA BQ equivalents.

I'm only familiar with the American markets.

Yeah I get that, between the EVGA BQ or CoolerMaster GM then, what would you pick? Or are they close enough in performance and quality that just go with the better value?

 

[prince_13]

all psu have a build in surge protector right ?

 

[Turb0Yoda]

all psu have a build in surge protector right ?

Some power supplies have built in surge protection, but not a surge protector, If I understand you correctly.

https://www.amazon.com/BESTEK-6-Outlet-Surge-Protector-6-6ft/dp/B017X3QC9O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480040805&sr=8-1

That is a surge protector, if I am not mistaken, albiet a bad one most likely.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

all psu have a build in surge protector right ?

Some power supplies have built in surge protection, but not a surge protector, If I understand you correctly.

https://www.amazon.com/BESTEK-6-Outlet-Surge-Protector-6-6ft/dp/B017X3QC9O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480040805&sr=8-1

That is a surge protector, if I am not mistaken, albiet a bad one most likely.

No difference, those surge protectors just have some MOVs, which some PSUs have (or a TVS diode). In addition, APFC can suppress surges, PSUs without MOVs have even passed surge tests just from APFC absorption.

 

[Achaios]

Isn't it time for someone to update the OP? Last update was made in 30 Aug 2016.