PSU tier list 2.0

[tiny voices]

I would not risk it. It is not a good PSU.

 

[Deleted member 217926]

Not a chance. The FX 9xxx chips require 1000w minimum and of decent quality. You should be looking at a EVGA G2 1000W, P2 1000W or some other Tier 1/2 unit.
The NEX is a tier 3 unit that quite possibly should be in tier 4.

I have no idea if you're kidding or not but saying a CPU requires a 1000w power supply is not only wrong it's so wrong I almost deleted the post as trolling. Please don't post misinformation or sheer stupidity.

While the NEX models are not great they are not no name junk that blows up either. The 750w unit supplies more than enough power for an FX 9590 and 290X although the unit is lower quality than is ideal.

 

[Whisper05]

Not a chance. The FX 9xxx chips require 1000w minimum and of decent quality. You should be looking at a EVGA G2 1000W, P2 1000W or some other Tier 1/2 unit.
The NEX is a tier 3 unit that quite possibly should be in tier 4.

I have no idea if you're kidding or not but saying a CPU requires a 1000w power supply is not only wrong it's so wrong I almost deleted the post as trolling. Please don't post misinformation or sheer stupidity.

While the NEX models are not great they are not no name junk that blows up either. The 750w unit supplies more than enough power for an FX 9590 and 290X although the unit is lower quality than is ideal.

according to your reply, the NEX750B can actually handle the FX9590 + R9 280X (my mistake up there, typed the wrong number, sorry for confusions) at least for a while till i can afford a new PSU?? if so thank you for the good news

 

[tiny voices]

If it is just a 280x you should be fine until you can get a better unit in there. I WOULD recommend replacing it though as the NEX B/G units has REALLY poor voltage regulation.

 

[Whisper05]

If it is just a 280x you should be fine until you can get a better unit in there. I WOULD recommend replacing it though as the NEX B/G units has REALLY poor voltage regulation.

ok, i'll keep you advice in mind and buy the Supernova 1000G2 ASAP, thank you

 

[RCFProd]

As said above you really don't need 1000 watts for the FX-9590 processor. With a good quality 750 watts, like the EVGA B2 750w which is already plenty, will work fine with your setup.

 

[tiny voices]

As said above you really don't need 1000 watts for the FX-9590 processor. With a good quality 750 watts, like the EVGA B2 750w which is already plenty, will work fine with your setup.

I agree, a 750 B2 would be plenty.

 

[Whisper05]

As said above you really don't need 1000 watts for the FX-9590 processor. With a good quality 750 watts, like the EVGA B2 750w which is already plenty, will work fine with your setup.

I agree, a 750 B2 would be plenty.

is there too much difference between a 750B2 and the NEX750B??

 

[RCFProd]

Yeah. B1/G1 = FSP made = Not great quality.

B2/G2/P2 = Super Flower made = Very high quality

 

[Onus]

I thought the Aurum reviewed well enough to be at least a tier-3; thinking back to HardwareSecrets reviews.

 

[tiny voices]

No way. http://www.overclock.net/t/1476935/why-you-should-not-buy-an-evga-supernova-nex650g-750g-aka-g1

 

[Onus]

But in there is this, from the thread-starter:

S[h]ould be said that the NEX750B is not an Aurum based unit its a downgraded FSP Raider

...and looking at a couple of HardwareSecrets reviews, it doesn't look like it is Group-Regulated.

I think you are describing two different animals here. Aurum may not be great, but it is not less than tier-3.

 

[tiny voices]

I'm saying that IF the Corsair CX units are tier 4, then based on the review I posted where the G1 EVGA units perform as bad or worse, then they HAVE to be tier 4 as well or the CX must be brought back to tier 3. Right now the current locations of the Cx and G1 units make no sense at all when compared to each other.

 

[MarkW]

CX units were lowered due to cheap capacitors that were (are) failing way too soon.

Corsair Tier 4
CX / CXM Channel Well Technology
VS Channel Well Technology

 

[Onus]

By all means bring the EVGA units down, but I don't think you can compare them to Aurum, or say they're the same thing. I do think if performance is similar, early deaths do [de]merit being called out by placement on a lower tier, so it may be appropriate to leave them where they are; EVGA performs worse even when new (but may still merit Tier-3), whereas CX croaks early, even if it starts better.
Would it be worth following every PSU with a parenthetical number of the tier where you'd find it in two or three years? A good Seasonic might still be 1/(1), whereas CX could be 3/(4).

 

[Darkbreeze]

And there are several flavors of Aurum, which on the old tier list were indicated by being tiered differently depending on which Aurum model it was.

FSP Aurum PT 1200w was tier 1.

Aurum Gold
Aurum Xilencer were both Tier 2B.


Aurum 92+ 650M
Aurum S 700w were Tier 3.

FSP Raider was Tier 4.

 

[Darkbreeze]

By all means bring the EVGA units down, but I don't think you can compare them to Aurum, or say they're the same thing. I do think if performance is similar, early deaths do [de]merit being called out by placement on a lower tier, so it may be appropriate to leave them where they are; EVGA performs worse even when new (but may still merit Tier-3), whereas CX croaks early, even if it starts better.
Would it be worth following every PSU with a parenthetical number of the tier where you'd find it in two or three years? A good Seasonic might still be 1/(1), whereas CX could be 3/(4).

This would be too confusing for 90% of visitors.

 

[Karadjgne]

Not to entire it's already factored in, for the most part. Every psu made uses capacitors, every capacitor degrades over time, even Japanese solid caps. The difference is in the caps themselves. There's a huge difference between the 85° CapXon caps and the 105° Japanese caps. Not only in ability, reliability, but also in longevity. The rate of decay in the CapXon caps is 3-5x greater than the Japanese solid caps. In simple terms, a full Japanese cap psu is likely to see its full 5-10 year warranty and still be within ATX and 80+ standards. A psu full of CapXon caps will be lucky to live out its 3 yr warranty. It's the difference between an Evga G2/B2 and a NEX G1/B1 or even a corsair CX.

 

[Darkbreeze]

I really think there must be an additional issue with these current crop of CX units. I'm seeing a VERY high number of them that are either dying or becoming to weak to use with discreet graphics at about the six to eight month mark. That can't be long enough for significant enough capacitor decay, in the number of them that we're seeing, to account for all those failures. I think there must be a heat issue as well. If these units are running ok in the hot box at test time, but are not holding up to the heat over the long haul due to some lower quality components, caps, heatsinks, terrible fan management, whatever, I'd sure like to know why. It IS happening, I'd just like to know why, aside from simply having moved to a different OEM.

 

[CTurbo]

I have been replacing other people's CX units for years now. I've never like them.

 

[Karadjgne]

More likely it's the build itself. Crappy soldering, mosfets not properly attached to heatsinks, pretty much exact same components, but shoddy build. Would account for a shorter lifespan if mosfets are attached the same way some ppl treat thermal paste. Only way you'll ever really know is if you start pulling dead units apart and finding out what's bunk.

 

[MarkW]

I have been running into the same thing with the VS series the last couple of weeks... 6 months old, and already dying. So I was glad to see them in Tier 4 yesterday.

 

[IntelTurtleFan]

Not a chance. The FX 9xxx chips require 1000w minimum and of decent quality. You should be looking at a EVGA G2 1000W, P2 1000W or some other Tier 1/2 unit.
The NEX is a tier 3 unit that quite possibly should be in tier 4.

I have no idea if you're kidding or not but saying a CPU requires a 1000w power supply is not only wrong it's so wrong I almost deleted the post as trolling. Please don't post misinformation or sheer stupidity.

While the NEX models are not great they are not no name junk that blows up either. The 750w unit supplies more than enough power for an FX 9590 and 290X although the unit is lower quality than is ideal.

Not intended to be a troll post AMD on their own website *recommends* a 1000W PSU.
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2373254/psu-cooling-cpu-amd-9590.html

Since you only have a R9 280X it will be fine at 750w/850w (to be safe).

 

[tiny voices]

Yeah, as a measure of protection for themselves. Just like how GPU companies WAY WAY overstate the needed power for a card.

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

With the FX9000 series and high end cards some 750w won't run it.

Minimum , a solid 850w is a great idea.