Radeon HD 7990 And GeForce GTX 690: Bring Out The Big Guns

[twinshadow]

[citation][nom]army_ant7[/nom]About this talk of: if people who buy cards like this would be concerned about power. I would say that it's foolish to make it sound absolute, as if every single person who would buy cards like these wouldn't care about power. I mean, what is a person to make such absolute claims? "Most" sounds more acceptable, but unless one can present statistics, it's not really moot (making claims as well would be pointless without objective data).[/citation]


What data do you need if I go to Newegg today and say to myself should I pay for my mortgage or get a 1000$ video card. I can’t afford it you don’t need Statistics to know who is buying this card just use commonsense.

 

[army_ant7]

Read your statement. I see "...should I pay my mortgage..." Here's the thing, we see the world through our own eyes. What we consider to be "common sense" or obvious may vary (even though it kinda goes against the "common" in "common sense").

Assuming that everyone would think the same way as you is foolish (sorry to say). One does not have to be rich. One can really invest a lot of money on something he/she is passionate about--something that would make him/her happy. Whether it's logical or fits within what we may consider as "common sense" or not, that doesn't mean it won't happen. Nor would it be wise for us to call personal preferences, or a person's choice in happiness, "stupid" (if ever anyone would) even though we may disagree. I don't mean to make this into a hateful discussion if ever it's headed in that direction.

ADDENDUM: Statistics are needed to make claims like "everyone" or "most people." Otherwise, it's just hearsay.

 

[twinshadow]

[citation][nom]army_ant7[/nom]Read your statement. I see "...should I pay my mortgage..." Here's the thing, we see the world through our own eyes. What we consider to be "common sense" or obvious may vary (even though it kinda goes against the "common" in "common sense").Assuming that everyone would think the same way as you is foolish (sorry to say). One does not have to be rich. One can really invest a lot of money on something he/she is passionate about--something that would make him/her happy. Whether it's logical or fits within what we may consider as "common sense" or not, that doesn't mean it won't happen. Nor would it be wise for us to call personal preferences, or a person's choice in happiness, "stupid" (if ever anyone would) even though we may disagree. I don't mean to make this into a hateful discussion if ever it's headed in that direction. ADDENDUM: Statistics are needed to make claims like "everyone" or "most people." Otherwise, it's just hearsay.[/citation]

This discussion not even close to being hateful I seen worse and I’ll just leave it at that b/c this forum is about 7990 vs. 690 and not on how people spend their money

 

[adrhellb]

[citation][nom]twinshadow[/nom]Sounds like to me you have budget and you stick to it its ok most people can’t afford to buy all high in parts I certainly can’t. The person that’s buying this card mostly drives an 80,000 car and most likely has a custom case that supports a ton of water cooling so sound and heat is not a factor. By saying that worrying about a power bill it’s not on this person’s mind, also when you are playing games it only got up to 350 – 370 watts.[/citation]

Don't disagree on that. People will obviously buy the 7990X2.

The power bill is not the issue for me, however heat and noise is. So for me, and many others (I know atleast,) the 690 is a better choice.

 

[JJ1217]

To all those saying whoever buys a $1000 video card doesn't have to worry about power, you are kidding me right? $1000 is expensive for a graphics card, no doubt, but with decent saving, you can save up for it in like a couple of weeks. I'm not saying that its cheap, but its not that its so far out in price that NO ONE can afford it.

 

[zanny]

[citation][nom]FormatC[/nom]1 kW/h in Germany: 0.25 Euro (approx. 0.34 USD)This IS an issue.[/citation]

And you guys are closing all your nuclear plants? Its like 0.07 cents a kwh in rural Pennsylvania.

 

[FormatC]

And you guys are closing all your nuclear plants? Its like 0.07 cents a kwh in rural Pennsylvania.

Germany has enough energy to sell it (20 GWh in Novemver for 2012)

Energy is expensive, so people will use less. It's called ecological tax and a good instrument to educate people. It is time for north america and china to rethink.
If the ice caps melt ...

 

[gianny37]

All I know is that my 690 with a +100 on core and memory get higher scores on 3d mark 11 extreme and performance against those heat monsters. I'm not a nvidia fan either. Im actually an AMD fan but we got to be honest. Now try to overclock those cards and watch your heat and noise and power levels skyrock!

 

[Novuake]

[citation][nom]gianny37[/nom]All I know is that my 690 with a +100 on core and memory get higher scores on 3d mark 11 extreme and performance against those heat monsters. I'm not a nvidia fan either. Im actually an AMD fan but we got to be honest. Now try to overclock those cards and watch your heat and noise and power levels skyrock![/citation]

Exactly what would your goal be to OC these cards? What could possible be the need?

 

[mousseng]

As for liquid??? LOL liquid would cause thousand of issues kinda making warranty an issue. Besides, where would you mount the Radiator???

EVGA disagrees with you. And I'm not sure what you're on about the radiator for - you'd mount it wherever you can find room for it. Most cases have more than enough room for at least a dual 120mm rad.

 

[gianny37]

@Novuake

To be honest there is no reason to oc those cards other than benchmarks. I play most games at 1080p at max
But it was just a comment. Since tom benched the 690 at stock and those AMD cards are sort running with a tiny bit of higher clocks. My point is that the 690 with minimal oc can get higher 3d mark scores with less heat and less power if we were to compare but other than that t the crysis 3 beta and my 690 does an average of 40fames at 1080p with the highest settings. Idk if the game needs to be a oil bit more optimized but there you go. We'll have a reason to oc these cards soon. Lol

 

[ojas]

Thanks for the replies, Igor!

[citation][nom]FormatC[/nom]Germany has enough energy to sell it (20 GWh in Novemver for 2012) Energy is expensive, so people will use less. It's called ecological tax and a good instrument to educate people. It is time for north america and china to rethink. If the ice caps melt ...[/citation]
+1 They only want their Hummers and Beef though, and ask us to stop eating meat...

(generalization, don't kill me if you realize that 1 person doesn't need a mini van to go to office)

 

[Novuake]

[citation][nom]mousseng[/nom]EVGA disagrees with you. And I'm not sure what you're on about the radiator for - you'd mount it wherever you can find room for it. Most cases have more than enough room for at least a dual 120mm rad.[/citation]

That card is made to add into a custom loop. I can garrentee you the sales on that card are close to none.
Most people would fit their OWN watercooling to these cards anyway. If HIS or whoevr add water to a card it would just add cost that they do not want.

 

[mousseng]

That card is made to add into a custom loop. I can garrentee you the sales on that card are close to none.

Yes, I know it's intended to go into a custom loop; I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that's what g-unit was suggesting. And as for the sales, I'm sure you noticed that it sold out, so it at least sold as many as Newegg had.

Most people would fit their OWN watercooling to these cards anyway. If HIS or whoevr add water to a card it would just add cost that they do not want.

I'm not sure I follow you here; the point is, it would have been nice if PowerColor and HIS offered the option to have a waterblock instead, since I kind of doubt there's many (if any) waterblocks that would fit those 7990s.

 

[Novuake]

[citation][nom]mousseng[/nom]Yes, I know it's intended to go into a custom loop; I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that's what g-unit was suggesting. And as for the sales, I'm sure you noticed that it sold out, so it at least sold as many as Newegg had.I'm not sure I follow you here; the point is, it would have been nice if PowerColor and HIS offered the option to have a waterblock instead, since I kind of doubt there's many (if any) waterblocks that would fit those 7990s.[/citation]

You did notice the price is 200 Dollars more than reference design?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130781

You could get a waterblock for this GPU that would work out much less than 200 Dollars.

As for sold out, im pretty sure Newegg would not get more than a handful in the first place.

 

[mousseng]

You did notice the price is 200 Dollars more than reference design?
You could get a waterblock for this GPU that would work out much less than 200 Dollars.

I'm not sure how this train of thought got here or where it's going, but the point is that a waterblock for the 7990s is both feasible and attractive - there are, to my knowledge, no retail blocks that fit the 7990; not to mention, they get very hot.

 

[Dax corrin]

Too much coin for my tastes. I'm sticking with my GTX 460 1GB OC.

 

[redeemer]

LoL to whoever is complaining about power consumption...guess what this high-end segment isn't geared to you!!! So look elsewhere

 

[Guest]

Why you didn't test with nvidia 690 in SLI?

 

[animalosity]

[citation][nom]Ninjawithagun[/nom][/citation]

Fanboy.... AMD is obviously a clear winner in raw frame rates. Just face it man, Nvidia Kepler isn't what it was supposed to "live up to"

 

[army_ant7]

@gianny37
Hey, hush about the info on the Alpha test! I try my best to as well. EA and/or CryTek don't want people spreading the word about benchmarks or how the game looks and feels/plays. It's an unfinished product and people can get the wrong impression about it. Even if someone understood that the data you shared is of a test version, there's no guarantee that anyone he/she may share it with would get it, or if he/she would even mention it is a test in the first place. It's not our place to take that risk.

 

[LonelyMan]

I wish I had the money to buy a high resolution monitor.

 

[FormatC]

The Crysis Beta is NOT final, both drivers (Catalyst and GeForce) are NOT optimized and it's funny to pose with that game. Have you read (and understood) the EULA? All bechmark results of this piece are totally irrelevant. I test it also but why would I break the rules? No reason....

 

[army_ant7]

Igor, I hope you didn't think that I was referring to you. Just in case, I said "@gianny37."

 

[FormatC]

It was a reply to gianny37, not to you. It's hard to answer in "real-time"when you live in a different time zone

BTW: I would never tell in detail what I have in my own apartment - the the Polish border is not far away and this looks like an invitation to Polish, Russian, Romanian burglars.