Radeon R9 295X2 vs Nvidia Titan Z

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that was the point I was going for!
AMD has GTX by the neck here
Though
Even though the Titan will have more power per card not $

If you are going for a pure power hog. Then GTX is your choice
For power with less $. Amd is your choice

Same with AMD and intel!
 


it's a big "MAYBE", anandtech included a look at how a 7990 is performing and it's still abysmal in terms of frame pacing. banking on drivers that may never came when spending $1500 is senseless imho.

 


Very true. I have a 7770 for simple gaming. Believe it or not , I play ALL games including witcher 2, arma 3

And never have I had low frames besides arma3 server lags.
I play most games on medium and high settings

Like payday 2 at high
Arma 3 at standard
Dayz stand alone at medium
Wit her 2 at low with some custom medium settings

And never low frames?
Yet more powerful cards are coughing at some scenes in games(AMD)

While the more $$ yet efficient GTX cards are just laughing at AMD at the same games
 
i would much rather have two evga classified 780s in sli than a single dual gpu card. its cheaper, you get MUCH better cooling, and they will overclock MUCH MUCH higher. 780s in sli is 4k ready and will max out every game made, including crysis 3, all ultra settings using fxaa and hold a minimum of about 40fps and as high as 65fps, no problems whatsoever in the 3gb vram department. and even though at 4k res fxaa only drops 2-3fps of performance, no aa vs fxaa is very hard to notice at that resolution.
 
The Titan Z is driven by two GK110 GPUs; while the R9 295x2 has two Hawaii XT GCN chips driving it. This being said hopefully you can understand why comparing the chip-set's clock-speeds is completely absurd. This same rookie mistake is common when comparing processors as well. It's like comparing apples and oranges.
A more accurate comparison would take into account the other variables in the computing equation. The core clock quoted is often the speed of one core operating at maximum speed. The NVIDA card sports 5,760 CUDA cores while AMD's monster has 5,632 stream processors. If we take the processor speed and multiply by the amount of available processors we have moved closer to discover the cards true compute performance. Once we have that number we must multiply it by the amount of FLOPS (Floating Point Operations Per Second) divided by the clock cycle. It looks something like this
FLOPS= cores X clock speed X FLOPS/clock cycle
Team Green comes in at 8 TeraFLOPS of compute performance
Team Red an impressive 11.5 TFLOPS

NVIDA fanboys might point out the 12GB of GDDR5 available on the TitanZ compared to the measly 8GB available on the AMD offering. Allow me to point you to the fact that the TitanZ for some odd reason only utilizes two 384-bit channels for the memory bus width. The R9-295x2 utilizes a dual 512-bit bus.
There are many other factors that we could explore, but at this point NVIDA has not even finalized the specs on their card. All I can go on is what We have been told so far.
My theory is that the absurd price on the TITAN Z is because NVIDA knows that there are fanboys out there that will pay a premium to be on the bleeding edge of technology, this is what has kept there pocketbooks full, (just like Apple and Samsung) but I digress.
In Summary just like always AMD will offer a better price to performance ratio. The only thing that you need worry about is if everyone will think that you have "the ultimate system" when they see the cheaper card in your system.
 


Doesn't really say anything, card architectures are different so you cannot compare specs directly.
 
take in consideration that AMD cards have 1/3 of functions of normal nvidia cards.but still nvidia cards run better and faster then anything AMD can trow on the field.Corssfire system is crap.It is poor man SLI copy.one card doing in full speed and other is just a one legged man on butt kicking contest.SLI is two as one.and 512 bit memory busagainst 384 bit memory bus means nothing.all depend how they make bus system running and nvidia have beter ways always.Nvidia had 512 bit bus cards long ago then AMD and 384 bit is maybe even better then 512 from AMD
 


Oh great, now we have fanboys from both sides, this should be fun...
 


unfortunately not, the question was "which is faster" so it would be cheating to put 2 R9 295x2 up against 1 Titan Z. even though it does make sense to do it because of the huge pricetag on the Titan Z
 
Well at least the mining market shouldnt touch the 295x due to it being more than double the price of a 290x

that being said, it truly is like comparing apples and oranges. The titan z based on speculation and the evidence of performance advantages the titan black has over the 290x, it is likely very safe to assume that the titan z will outperform the 295x in gaming. Now you factor in the price and the titan z enters a VERY niche market and most gamers won't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

even if they brought the titan z down to $2000 the 295x would still be a better deal for gaming and mining like tasks. the titan-z would have it's "pro" uses, but the cost would not be justifiable for most gamers.

two completely different cards with two fairly different target consumers. props to amd for coming out with a great dual gpu card. It will likely insight a nice response from nvidia (although no real rumours of a 790, it seems like this would be a proper response to the 295x...my speculation would be that they make a dual 780ti board and sell is for $2000)


the argument for memory bus is absolutely irrelevant for gaming if it does not give noticeable performance boosts and the only proper way to say that the higher memory bus is better is to compare two of the exact same cards that only differ in an upgraded memory bus. if you try to compare two different cards you get back to apples and oranges.

 


This is pretty much the answer. Yes AMD's new card is the fastest DUAL GPU on the market. However, once the Titan Z is release on the market, Nvida will regain the Worlds Fastest DUAL GPU.

Now to compare price, that's a whole other ball park. $3k for a dual gpu is a little too high. But you have to remember, Titan Z is also engineer for ppl who use workstations.
 


And waste money on the LN2 and say goodbye to your Kingpin after a month.
 
guys don't forget that R9 295X2 is cooled with water cooler and it have more speed then R9 290X which have less speed and as well it is not going with its full speed because of it's cooler so i guess that R9 295X2 will give better performance, but still have some problem with some games, like always.
 


I knew someone would do it!
 


I just had to! :pt1cable:
 
However you did. Hell I'll bite.... The Titan-Z is comprised essentially of two Titan Blacks. The 295x2 is two 290x's. The Titan Black is faster than the 290x... By a large margin. So we can assume that two Titan Blacks on one PCB will out perform two 290x's on a single pcb.

The Titan-Z is over priced... The price is a stupid thing we can all agree on that. However the 790 is set to release in the next year or so. The 790 based of Nvidia past will be probably two 780 Ti's on a single PCB. This will out perform the 295x2 as well, but here is why I think they over priced the Titan-Z. It will make the 790 price seem less intense and will probably be at the same price point as the 295x2. This is just like what I said, it's speculation. This doesn't mean it is definitively true.

Ripped out references to a deleted post - SS
 


 
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