Radeon R9 295X2 vs Nvidia Titan Z

[GPUEnthusiast]

the gtx titan z costs about the same as 2 r9 295x2s and it just released today and apparently it takes up 3 slots i have no idea what nvidia is playing at

3 slots meaning the width of the card. In a Mini ITX enclosure (I don't count the Bitfenix Prodigy, because at its dimensions it's well in to the Micro-ATX sizes) this would be nearly impossible. But most Micro-ATX or Full-ATX chassis could support it. The R9 295x2 is also triple width.

 

[mordorrson]

The 295X2 is 2 slots wide, actually. Also, the 1018 MHz is the core clock, not the boost clock. The boost clock is 1250 MHz

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/04/08/amd-radeon-r9-295x2-review/2

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_295_X2/

 

[17seconds]

The 295X2 is 2 slots wide, actually. Also, the 1018 MHz is the core clock, not the boost clock. The boost clock is 1250 MHz

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/04/08/amd-radeon-r9-295x2-review/2

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_295_X2/

There is no boost clock on the 295x2. It is the memory clock that is 1250 MHz, which translates into 5000 MHz, about 2000 MHz less than the TitanZ.

 

[mordorrson]

I was talking about the core clock, not memory speeds.

 

[renz496]

I was talking about the core clock, not memory speeds.

did you actually read the article you link or not? even on the overclocking section both test did not reach such clock. bittech was able to get 1109Mhz for the overclock and TPU was able to get 1120Mhz. if the boost clock was really that high then why max OC have much lower clock?

 

[17seconds]

I was talking about the core clock, not memory speeds.

Correct, and you were wrong.

 

[Memhorder]

I suppose any one that has 3 G's to spend on a 4K monitor would have the extra cash for a couple thousand dollar GPU to compliment it.

 

[mordorrson]

I read about half of it, sorry about that. I think I read one of the charts wrong too, maybe that's how I got 1250 MHz... The core clock is, however, 1018 MHz.

 

[17seconds]

Benchmarks:
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/unlocked/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-z-review-and-4k-benchmarks-idnum280/

 

[GPUEnthusiast]

Wow, I was not aware that the R9 295x2 could beat an overclocked Titan Z in Crysis 3 frame rate on 4k. It also seems that two separate Titan Black's SLI'd are always better than the Titan Z. The R9 295x2's FireStrike Extreme Score is quite impressive.

 

[RussK1]

I'd prefer the Titan Z... design, efficiency, DP, nVidia features, drivers, etc... but the price tag is plain asinine. There's just no way to justify it...

 

[CAaronD]

If Titan Z were the same price or slightly more expensive than the R9 295x2 then it would be very much worth it. But 3k twice the price of the R9 295x2 is just ridiculous >.<

 

[Coltor]

A bit late but, if you're wondering about why the Titan is considered a semi-pro card is because it has professional features that gaming cards otherwise do not have. The Titan Z may lean more towards gaming but it still has its foot in the professional door.

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[Shasha23]

Benchmarks:
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/unlocked/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-z-review-and-4k-benchmarks-idnum280/

If Titan Z were the same price or slightly more expensive than the R9 295x2 then it would be very much worth it. But 3k twice the price of the R9 295x2 is just ridiculous >.<

better to pay top dollar for something that wont give you problems than paying half that for something that will give you problems half the time
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also those benchmarks are very suspicious, I wouldn't trust them if I were you, even if they are not a Z is better than a 295x2 at an amd game :O

 

[smeezekitty]

even if they are not a Z is better than a 295x2 at an amd game

Like 20% worst/best case for 100% more price woohoo!
Not to mention the AMD card has built in water cooling.

Titan Z for $2000 -- maybe it would be ok
For 3000 -- nope

But NVidia banks on a few hard core fanboys to get screwed

 

[RussK1]

If Titan Z were the same price or slightly more expensive than the R9 295x2 then it would be very much worth it. But 3k twice the price of the R9 295x2 is just ridiculous >.<

A bit late but, if you're wondering about why the Titan is considered a semi-pro card is because it has professional features that gaming cards otherwise do not have. The Titan Z may lean more towards gaming but it still has its foot in the professional door.

http://

even if they are not a Z is better than a 295x2 at an amd game

Like 20% worst/best case for 100% more price woohoo!
Not to mention the AMD card has built in water cooling.

Titan Z for $2000 -- maybe it would be ok
For 3000 -- nope

But NVidia banks on a few hard core fanboys to get screwed

I have to agree with you, $3,000 is beyond ludicrous.

 

[Shasha23]

even if they are not a Z is better than a 295x2 at an amd game

Like 20% worst/best case for 100% more price woohoo!
Not to mention the AMD card has built in water cooling.

Titan Z for $2000 -- maybe it would be ok
For 3000 -- nope

But NVidia banks on a few hard core fanboys to get screwed

NVidia's prices are just ridiculous and how can someone be a fanboy of a gpu company? makes no sense
im not butthurt just saying it how it is man, most people who have that kind of money don't know to much about watercolling, AMD made a bad move, I mean who wants to to have a $1500 death trap in their $2500 pc, the 295x2 is a beast card but the software supporting it, is just horrible

 

[mordorrson]

@Shasha23 Why wouldn't you trust the benchmarks? They're a lot more reliable than the on-paper specs. Granted, they can be a bit suggestive depending on the system used, but they don't lie, they still tell you how the card performed on that system, and are pretty good general indicators of how well a piece of hardware performs.

Have you checked AMD's drivers in the past month? The software isn't "just horrible" it's actually pretty good, maybe not quite as good as Nvidia's drivers, but still good. It's certainly not a death trap. I'm not sure why you consider AMD hardware to be so sub-par, but I'm guessing it's not because you looked at an extensive amount of reviews and benchmarks.

 

[Idonno]

im not butthurt just saying it how it is man, most people who have that kind of money don't know to much about watercolling, AMD made a bad move, I mean who wants to to have a $1500 death trap in their $2500 pc, the 295x2 is a beast card but the software supporting it, is just horrible

Do you have a clue? Have you tried a closed loop water cooler? "death trap" really? "the software supporting it, is just horrible" God your ignorance is showing! Need some Preparation H?

 

[Memhorder]

Closed Loop is the best way to go especially for a dual GPU. Provided it has good components and impermeable tubing. I don't know if the drivers are all that bad either. Mantel seems to have done wonders for low end CPU's and APUs but NVIDIA is trying to follow suit as the driver I just got supposedly gives 10% CPU overhead.

 

[core 2 duo dude]

i think he is right there is no point in just trolling this thread. i personally im an amd fan but that doesn't mean that i will just buy amd reguardless of performance. some good points have been made even with all the trolling: it is much easier to just put two cards in sli/crossfire, for the price you could get two 295x2 cards, and a few others, but if you think about it, do you really think that they are trying to actually sell these cards, i mean this is just a my flagship is better than yours situation. another thing is that now that some specs have come out it looks as though (as i expected) the titan z is only a hair faster ( yes i know that bf4 is an amd game) but don't you see that nvidia had to come out with a whole new brand just to keep up with amd's new R series graphics

 

[mordorrson]

i think he is right there is no point in just trolling this thread. i personally im an amd fan but that doesn't mean that i will just buy amd reguardless of performance. some good points have been made even with all the trolling: it is much easier to just put two cards in sli/crossfire, for the price you could get two 295x2 cards, and a few others, but if you think about it, do you really think that they are trying to actually sell these cards, i mean this is just a my flagship is better than yours situation. another thing is that now that some specs have come out it looks as though (as i expected) the titan z is only a hair faster ( yes i know that bf4 is an amd game) but don't you see that nvidia had to come out with a whole new brand just to keep up with amd's new R series graphics

The thing is, R series is just rebranding of some of the HD series cards. There's no big difference between the two, except for how much tech AMD managed to slap onto a single die. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Tahiti GPUs have the same tech as Hawaii GPUs, but only lower numbers. Also, I believe AMD plans to sell their card to the enthusiast market, hardcore gamers with some cash to spend; whereas Nvidia plans to sell it to the professional market, large companies that care more about performance/watt than cost. The 295X2 is actually decently priced (you can find a few models for just over $1400), as two 290Xs with two individual water blocks will cost pretty much the same, and may even be a little louder.

 

[Someone Somewhere]

No, Hawaii and whatever the 7790's die was called have some minor improvements. Audio was one thing, but there's a few other differences IIRC.

 

[TehCaucasianAsian]

Honestly, if you want a gaming card, the 295X2 is the better option. It performs at like, what? 90%+ the Titan Z's performance for half the price? It's a better deal for strictly gaming. If the computer performance of the AMD also happens to be greater than like half the Z's, then it would STILL be the better choice. It's price to performance here, which AMD has always had the crown in

 

[core 2 duo dude]

sorry that this is completely off topic, but i'm trying to get a mid range gpu, ( 7770, r7 250, 250x) ( gt 640, gt 650) but my psu is a single +12v rail with five molex connectors, if i get the converters would it work ( rest of the system power is under 125w)