[SOLVED] RENDER PC (Workhorse) 3D/Photoshop ADVICE!

FlewDesigns

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Hi there

so i am a 3D artist and creative retoucher so I work with 3D software such as Maya/Vray for rendering. Recently my 1080ti and i7 has been struggling so thinking of going big!

I know the 3090 is the biggest factor in getting the best of the best and I know the shortage will be a problem.

- My idea was to use my 1080TI in this new rig for the time being until the 3090's are cheaper or available?


So my question is...

The below is the pre-built on overclockers website for £5,180.95 (including 3090 graphics card)


and here...

is the pcpartpicker building it myself price = £4724.95


So... I am thinking is it actually worth just buying it built for the £500 difference? seeing as they have the 3090.


Also! do you think this rig is the beast that it sounds like and will it suit me well for 3D/Render work.


Hard decision!



My other thought was buying it myself without the graphics card and just using my 1080ti in it until the 3090;s are more available and cheaper? what would you do.
its also black friday deals so i can make a few savings.



Thanks in advance.




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Current rig below with geforce 1080ti graphics card

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Hi there.

I use cpu at the moment for rendering using vray which uses CPU preferably. Im not sure how much the 3090 will improve it.

I use textures which are 8k resolution so i believed if i had 30+ 8k textures in a render then the 128gb ram will be able to power it better however i dont know too much about it just basics. we use 128gb in work which i think is why i have chose it?

So just windows 10 is fine then. i have it installed on my current 970 1tb ssd so i could just use that.


here is what i could find vray next benchmarks. https://benchmark.chaosgroup.com/next/cpu


really appreciate the help!
The benchmark results show that your software is CPU bound. You are spending A LOT for a GPU that doesn't seem to...

kanewolf

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Hi there

so i am a 3D artist and creative retoucher so I work with 3D software such as Maya/Vray for rendering. Recently my 1080ti and i7 has been struggling so thinking of going big!

I know the 3090 is the biggest factor in getting the best of the best and I know the shortage will be a problem.

- My idea was to use my 1080TI in this new rig for the time being until the 3090's are cheaper or available?


So my question is...

The below is the pre-built on overclockers website for £5,180.95 (including 3090 graphics card)


and here...

is the pcpartpicker building it myself price = £4724.95


So... I am thinking is it actually worth just buying it built for the £500 difference? seeing as they have the 3090.


Also! do you think this rig is the beast that it sounds like and will it suit me well for 3D/Render work.


Hard decision!



My other thought was buying it myself without the graphics card and just using my 1080ti in it until the 3090;s are more available and cheaper? what would you do.
its also black friday deals so i can make a few savings.



Thanks in advance.




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How much RAM can you actually use? 128GB is difficult to use and expensive. Would you be better off with 32GB or 64GB and more SSD storage?
Unless you have a windows domain you don't have to have Windows PRO.
Do you render on CPU or GPU ? Do you have benchmark data to with your software to gauge how much benefit that a 3090 will have over a 3080 ?
 

FlewDesigns

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How much RAM can you actually use? 128GB is difficult to use and expensive. Would you be better off with 32GB or 64GB and more SSD storage?
Unless you have a windows domain you don't have to have Windows PRO.
Do you render on CPU or GPU ? Do you have benchmark data to with your software to gauge how much benefit that a 3090 will have over a 3080 ?

Hi there.

I use cpu at the moment for rendering using vray which uses CPU preferably. Im not sure how much the 3090 will improve it.

I use textures which are 8k resolution so i believed if i had 30+ 8k textures in a render then the 128gb ram will be able to power it better however i dont know too much about it just basics. we use 128gb in work which i think is why i have chose it?

So just windows 10 is fine then. i have it installed on my current 970 1tb ssd so i could just use that.


here is what i could find vray next benchmarks. https://benchmark.chaosgroup.com/next/cpu


really appreciate the help!
 

kanewolf

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Hi there.

I use cpu at the moment for rendering using vray which uses CPU preferably. Im not sure how much the 3090 will improve it.

I use textures which are 8k resolution so i believed if i had 30+ 8k textures in a render then the 128gb ram will be able to power it better however i dont know too much about it just basics. we use 128gb in work which i think is why i have chose it?

So just windows 10 is fine then. i have it installed on my current 970 1tb ssd so i could just use that.


here is what i could find vray next benchmarks. https://benchmark.chaosgroup.com/next/cpu


really appreciate the help!
The benchmark results show that your software is CPU bound. You are spending A LOT for a GPU that doesn't seem to impact your performance. For the $$$$ you are looking at spending, you maybe should look at Threadripper or Xeon. Both of those architectures have more memory bandwidth.
Have you thought about a prebuild workstation from HP / Dell ? You would get a Xeon W or Xeon scalable.
 
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FlewDesigns

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The benchmark results show that your software is CPU bound. You are spending A LOT for a GPU that doesn't seem to impact your performance. For the $$$$ you are looking at spending, you maybe should look at Threadripper or Xeon. Both of those architectures have more memory bandwidth.
Have you thought about a prebuild workstation from HP / Dell ? You would get a Xeon W or Xeon scalable.

I also use photoshop with 30gb + files sometimes. so maybe its best to just use my current 1080ti in a new rig?.

we have 128gb ram and Xeon in work on mac and it is fast with vray.

No i havent thought about the prebuild workstations from hp/dell. to be honist i havent even looked! . This is the thing i need suggestions =) i just don't know enough to figure out what will be the best/most fast system for me.
something like this then? https://www.hp.com/gb-en/shop/product.aspx?id=11R16EA&opt=ABU&sel=WKS

My current rig is below so i need to make sure i am not just doing a small upgrade.
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Geforce 1080ti graphics card

Thanks.
 
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