I don't understand why people keep saying "680/7970's kill any game out there at the moment." Does no one play above 1080p?? Yes they're good cards, but bump the res up to 1600p and you'll see then splutter and choke down to 30fps with reduced detail in MANY games. If you're spending $500 on a GPU you should be spending just as much if not more on a monitor too.
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shikamaru31789
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[citation][nom]Pretty Please[/nom]I don't understand why people keep saying "680/7970's kill any game out there at the moment." Does no one play above 1080p?? Yes they're good cards, but bump the res up to 1600p and you'll see then splutter and choke down to 30fps with reduced detail in MANY games. If you're spending $500 on a GPU you should be spending just as much if not more on a monitor too.[/citation]
I'm under the impression that most people that game at 1440 or 1600 use dual card solutions or play on lower settings. Regardless of when the 700/8000 series release, sometime in their life the new consoles will release, and they'll raise the graphics minimum bar and the graphics maximum will raise again as a result, and you'll be in the exact same position again, with a single high end card not being able to run max settings at 2560 x 1440/1600. That'll especially be true if the rumor about the 700/8000 series only getting a 30% boost is true.
I'm under the impression that most people that game at 1440 or 1600 use dual card solutions or play on lower settings. Regardless of when the 700/8000 series release, sometime in their life the new consoles will release, and they'll raise the graphics minimum bar and the graphics maximum will raise again as a result, and you'll be in the exact same position again, with a single high end card not being able to run max settings at 2560 x 1440/1600. That'll especially be true if the rumor about the 700/8000 series only getting a 30% boost is true.
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[citation][nom]annymmo[/nom]The hardware refresh cycles are getting longer. Normal evolution of graphics cards.[/citation]
Normal evolution for all computing chips in general.
In the earlier days, all manners of architectural optimizations were still untapped. Today, most have been exhausted and the only way left is brute force. The problem with brute force is that it is also brutal on resources... die space, RAM/IO bandwidth, power, etc.
Normal evolution for all computing chips in general.
In the earlier days, all manners of architectural optimizations were still untapped. Today, most have been exhausted and the only way left is brute force. The problem with brute force is that it is also brutal on resources... die space, RAM/IO bandwidth, power, etc.
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Yeah, I am a little skeptical. They aren't accustomed, as far as I recall, to doing releases in close proximity to the holiday season. Releasing in October would seem to be a little too close to that season for them. I would think they would try to at least hit the summer, even if at near the end.
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[citation][nom]tmk221[/nom]I don't buy it. HD 7970 debiuted on January 9th, 2012. So we won't see a new series for well over one and a half of a year?!. I call BS[/citation]
Honestly my HD7970OC is more than powerful enough than most games need at 1080P res. Games wont even begin to push older gen GPUs till at least the next set of consoles is out.
Still it will probably be like the normal refreshes (HD5K-HD6K or GF4-GF5) where the increase is nice but not worth the new card. I say HD9K/G800 will be better upgrades if you have a current gen.
Honestly my HD7970OC is more than powerful enough than most games need at 1080P res. Games wont even begin to push older gen GPUs till at least the next set of consoles is out.
Still it will probably be like the normal refreshes (HD5K-HD6K or GF4-GF5) where the increase is nice but not worth the new card. I say HD9K/G800 will be better upgrades if you have a current gen.
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Happy with my GTX 690 running 3 x 1080p monitors in surround. Bought for $600 - $250 i got from my old cards = $350 card. I don't plan on selling or upgrading anytime soon. Too bad consoles hold pc development back these days.
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[citation][nom]rohitbaran[/nom]If semiaccurate is to be believed, the delay on AMD side is to give time for current GPU stock to be cleared, rather than a technological issue. Don't know about nVidia.[/citation]
Well, the good news to this is it could mean some price drops on some perfectly adequate cards even before the new ones get here.
Well, the good news to this is it could mean some price drops on some perfectly adequate cards even before the new ones get here.
[citation][nom]dark_lord69[/nom]Neet, I get to keep that new video card smell a while longer!!You wouldn't happen to be using a bluetooth mouse would you? When I used one it was TERRIBLE. So, bad infact, I ended up selling my bluetooth keyboard and mouse set... My new (non-bluetooth) set works fine, so I know it wasn't my system or software.[/citation]
wired, i avoid wireless anything like the plague if at all possible.
the lag im talking about is it takes almost half a second to respond and is very hard to deal with, but nothing else is lagged at all, just the mouse movement from what i can tell, and it only really started once i got off the boat. its hard to explain where exactly...
wired, i avoid wireless anything like the plague if at all possible.
the lag im talking about is it takes almost half a second to respond and is very hard to deal with, but nothing else is lagged at all, just the mouse movement from what i can tell, and it only really started once i got off the boat. its hard to explain where exactly...
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i have a GTX570, and it still runs every game out there butter smooth, as much as i may want one (i have a terrible weakness when it comes to hardware) the reality is it is a waste of money. unless you are ugrading from the GTX2XX, or 4XX series of course.
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good. it is rediculous how often new GPU's are released these days, and then they release buggy crap with unfinished drivers.
basicly they prob's have not made enuff profit out of the current tech, a lot of people probs not upgraded to the current tech , why would they ? its not that grate. I'll still wait for next gen gfx as the gfx cards that about at the moment are not that good or worth the amount of money over I use at the moment because it still plays the games I want so why spend 200 upwards ? nah think I wait that way me the customer gets the best deal on price vs performance .. not impressed with the price and I think the amd 7770 is rubbish for the money lol im only using an amd 6850 too, yea think I carry on waiting for new tech, we probs see some crappy rebranding too.
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Makes sense...clear the current stock, release with new games and consoles, more testing and validation time, holiday season launch...they'll probably not have huge discounts, since older cards wont be widely available.
Maybe OEMs get better cards for cheaper, too.
Maybe OEMs get better cards for cheaper, too.
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Dear AMD, just fix your drivers. Improve the speed of the 6870/7870 cards, don't worry about the 8000 10% improvements please.
It seems...
Has suggested...
According to their source...
There are rumors...
There are rumors...
Quality journalism from Tom's Hardware as usual.
Has suggested...
According to their source...
There are rumors...
There are rumors...
Quality journalism from Tom's Hardware as usual.
[citation][nom]Ninjawithagun[/nom]Good news for me. That just means I can squeeze out some more life out of my three GTX680s! I was dreading the financial impact of having to buy three GTX780s or Titans or whatever the next generation nVidia cards are going to be called. I can now relax and enjoy my cards for another 8+ months...yes![/citation]
I like to daydream myself. Are you also running dual Xeons?
I like to daydream myself. Are you also running dual Xeons?
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[citation][nom]mazty[/nom]Why the delay? Still, considering how almost no games push the existing range to their limits, I guess we can wait...[/citation]
Actally all games are pushed really high on a single monitor. when you run tripple monitors thats when you run into problems . the real issue with is graphics engines . Good engines like BF3 look amazing and can be run at high settings with older cards. farcry 3 looks worst than BF3 and requires more power
Actally all games are pushed really high on a single monitor. when you run tripple monitors thats when you run into problems . the real issue with is graphics engines . Good engines like BF3 look amazing and can be run at high settings with older cards. farcry 3 looks worst than BF3 and requires more power
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[citation][nom]jimmysmitty[/nom]Honestly my HD7970OC is more than powerful enough than most games need at 1080P res. Games wont even begin to push older gen GPUs till at least the next set of consoles is out.Still it will probably be like the normal refreshes (HD5K-HD6K or GF4-GF5) where the increase is nice but not worth the new card. I say HD9K/G800 will be better upgrades if you have a current gen.[/citation]
Games already push current graphics. Simply load up the SSAA and such settings or mods if that's what it takes, but most current DX11 games can bring any graphics to its knees if you try to do so.
Games already push current graphics. Simply load up the SSAA and such settings or mods if that's what it takes, but most current DX11 games can bring any graphics to its knees if you try to do so.
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[citation][nom]stevevnicks[/nom]basicly they prob's have not made enuff profit out of the current tech, a lot of people probs not upgraded to the current tech , why would they ? its not that grate. I'll still wait for next gen gfx as the gfx cards that about at the moment are not that good or worth the amount of money over I use at the moment because it still plays the games I want so why spend 200 upwards ? nah think I wait that way me the customer gets the best deal on price vs performance .. not impressed with the price and I think the amd 7770 is rubbish for the money lol im only using an amd 6850 too, yea think I carry on waiting for new tech, we probs see some crappy rebranding too.[/citation]
How is the 7770 rubbish for the money? It's comparable to the 6850 and it's usually found cheaper, most certainly far cheaper than the 6850 was when it was almost a year old like the 7770 is now.
Current cards might not be worth buying to you just because you already have a decent graphics card, but that does nothing to refute the fact that price/performance right now is better than it ever was before. For example, a Radeon 7970 GHz Edition is no slower than GTX 480 SLI, yet it can be had no more expensive than a single GTX 480 was around its launch. Another example is how we can find some GTX 670s as cheap as or cheaper than GTX 570s were before the 28nm cards came out, yet the 670 is almost as fast as GTX 570 SLI.
Furthermore, if you wanted an upgrade, then why not sell your 6850 and get a Radeon 7850 (only one tier below Radeon 6850 Crossfire, but doesn't have the common stutter issues associated with Radeon 68xx cards in Crossfire) for about $100 after the difference made from selling the 6850? There's no need to spend upwards of $200 to get a huge upgrade.
Price performance generally increases over time. If you're happy with what you have and are waiting until performance for the money is even better than it is today, then fine. There's little reason to upgrade now if what you have now is not inadequate. However, that in no way refutes the fact that you get much more performance for the money than you did even just two years ago.
How is the 7770 rubbish for the money? It's comparable to the 6850 and it's usually found cheaper, most certainly far cheaper than the 6850 was when it was almost a year old like the 7770 is now.
Current cards might not be worth buying to you just because you already have a decent graphics card, but that does nothing to refute the fact that price/performance right now is better than it ever was before. For example, a Radeon 7970 GHz Edition is no slower than GTX 480 SLI, yet it can be had no more expensive than a single GTX 480 was around its launch. Another example is how we can find some GTX 670s as cheap as or cheaper than GTX 570s were before the 28nm cards came out, yet the 670 is almost as fast as GTX 570 SLI.
Furthermore, if you wanted an upgrade, then why not sell your 6850 and get a Radeon 7850 (only one tier below Radeon 6850 Crossfire, but doesn't have the common stutter issues associated with Radeon 68xx cards in Crossfire) for about $100 after the difference made from selling the 6850? There's no need to spend upwards of $200 to get a huge upgrade.
Price performance generally increases over time. If you're happy with what you have and are waiting until performance for the money is even better than it is today, then fine. There's little reason to upgrade now if what you have now is not inadequate. However, that in no way refutes the fact that you get much more performance for the money than you did even just two years ago.
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[citation][nom]jimmysmitty[/nom]Honestly my HD7970OC is more than powerful enough than most games need at 1080P res. Games wont even begin to push older gen GPUs till at least the next set of consoles is out.Still it will probably be like the normal refreshes (HD5K-HD6K or GF4-GF5) where the increase is nice but not worth the new card. I say HD9K/G800 will be better upgrades if you have a current gen.[/citation]
Far Cry 3 @ 1440p, can your 7970 OC Max that?
Far Cry 3 @ 1440p, can your 7970 OC Max that?
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