Revenge of the Sith Review - Short Version

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Sea Wasp wrote:

>> What do you consider a good Sci-Fi movie?
>
>
> Forbidden Planet is a good one of the old school. Alien and Aliens
> were cool. The original Star Wars, naturally -- though it depends on
> what you are including under the "Sci-Fi" banner. If we're talking about
> any speculative fiction material, the possibilities widen. If we're
> discussing mostly space-opera, there's different tracks I could go off
> on -- Char's Counterattack or Crusher Joe would certainly rate mention
> (even if the former did have continuity problems with respect to the
> originating series). And must it be just theatrical movies, or do we
> include TV series and/or OVAs as well?

I go thumbs up on all four of the movies you mentioned, and don't
keep up with current space-opera or TV series much, though I
really liked Lost In Space, Kolchak: The Night Stalker, Battlestar
Galactica, X-files, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Lost World, Dark
Angel, BG 2005, Some episodes of Stargate SG-1, Star Trek (the
original, TNG, DS-9 & Voyager), Farscape, Space: Above & Beyond,
Twin Peaks, the short-lived Firefly, the early episodes of
Seaquest DSV, and the first season of Lexx.

Of sci-fi movies, I would count Stargate, Beastmaster, and Pitch
Black among my favorites.

Has anyone seen, or can otherwise comment on Stargate Atlantis,
Urban Gothic, and/or Mutant X?

Finally, I look forward to seeing the newly released "War of the
Worlds". Just to keep this on topic, H.G. Wells was an avid gamer!

Re,
Dirk

 

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Matt Frisch <matuse73@yahoo.spam.me.not.com> wrote:
>
> Expain the speedy construction time of the second death star then.
> Further, if Death Star 1 is ~10% done at the end of Episode 3, and
> hadn't even started construction as of the end of Episode 2, why would
> it take a further 20-odd years?

"The first 90% of the project takes the first 90% of the time. The
remaining 10% takes the other 90%."

> Having an entire galaxy from which to draw both resources and manpower
> would tend to accelerate the build speed. If the government could
> afford a few more material contractors and to triple the workforce on
> that carrier, it would get done a lot sooner. It isn't like the
> completion date is required by outside forces. The only thing that
> stops the government from doing anything is money or politics. Neither
> of which is a problem for the emperor.

Better entrenched after the first one got destroyed than when he
started. At the end of RoS he'd just grabbed control.

Consider how Bush stampeded the US government after 9/11, then look at
how Palpatine could've used the terrorist act of the rebel scum in
cowardly destroying the Death Sta^W^W Peace Planetoid.

For that matter, it may be the first 10% of the Death Star consumed the
plotdevicium in stock (which explains why so much was done 20 years
ago), and that the supply lines created over the next 20 years of
building the Death Star were easily able to provide for the Mark II.


Personally, I'm inclined to go with "it's a plot device! Plotdevicium
is available when and as needed by the story".


I used to fence. Apart from observing that lightsaber use is *way* more
open than seems reasonable[1], I write it off as Hollywood and leave it
at that.

[1] when using a weapon that only needs a touch to amputate, and is
exceedingly light (weightless, AFAIK) the style might make sense --
get as many potential blows in.

Hrm. This suggests that lightsaber fights are all twitch and luck,
with ah heck all *skill* involved. Interesting.


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On Mon, 23 May 2005 03:22:34 GMT, Keith Davies
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>
>Wasn't this when he first *got* the droids? I.e. hadn't had experience
>dealing with beepspeak. He undoubtedly gained levels between farm boy
>and Jedi; he could well have bought a rank of Speak Language (beepspeak).

The assumption that Luke was 'translating' R2 correctly is tenuous.
For all we know, most of their conversations went like this:

R2: I knew your dad, you know. He whined more than you do, if you can
believe it. And you know that chick you're mooning over? She's your
sister! Where are you from, Arkansasooine?

Luke: Ha ha! Yes, Artoo, this is a messy planet.

R2: Great. Twenty years I wait for the Savior Of The Universe, and
it's this yobbo. Should have gone over to the dark side.

Luke: What's that, Artoo? Timmy has fallen down the Sarlacc pit?

R2: I hope you get eaten by cannabalistic teddy bears.

Luke: I love you too, R2.
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Ed Chauvin IV wrote:
> Mere moments before death, ~consul hastily scrawled:
>>The use of Chewie as a name for the Wookie who escorted him to the escape pod.
>>Seems ... gratuitious? Do Wookies live that long?
> Uh, it's only 20 years.

I know we can't see how old any Wookies are, given the hair, and evidently, even
the humans seem to age differently, but back then, I would have placed Han and
Chewie near the same age, my guess being 30-35, at least. Old school, practiced
teamsters.

And to be on detail with a Master Jedi in EpIII, I would think it would go to
older guard members, and not page boys, so I would figure that going back in
Episode III, he'd be at least 30.
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On Mon, 23 May 2005 03:24:28 GMT, Keith Davies
<keith.davies@kjdavies.org> carved upon a tablet of ether:

> If 3PO got wiped, him not recognizing the farm is no big deal. That
> Luke's uncle didn't recognize him is a little more weird, but then some
> 20-30 years can make a difference to human memory.

By SW:ANH there are probably heaps of similar models around. C3P0
seems pleasantly surprised when he meets another in SW:ESB, rather
than shocked that there's another in existence, suggesting the model
is uncommon, but not rare.


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"Dirk Collins" <dirk.collins@Earthlink.Net> wrote in message
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> Has anyone seen, or can otherwise comment on Stargate Atlantis,
> Urban Gothic, and/or Mutant X?

Stargate Atlantis is ... decent. The cast hasn't finished growing into
its roles (with a few notable exceptions, McKay and Sheppard are the most
dynamic of the bunch), but the core arc of the series has a very compelling
idea; each of the star systems they visit has been "evolved" in some
fundamental - and usually utterly twisted and wrong - way by the scourgings
of the galaxy's top predator, the "wraith" who hibernate a few centuries and
then go a-munching on the humanoid smourgasbourd. That sort of thing can
really screw with your cultural development! This has created some good
tragedy-stories and some fun political conflicts. The Wraith villains are
pleasantly disturbing and are a worthy successor to the Goauld, and the
ideas about "what is Atlantis like" and all that rot are interesting. Of
course, there are also some painfully dumb characters (death to Taylaaa!)
and episodes, as well as too much of Stargate's patented "alien technology,
jury rigged in one hour? On it!" pocket franistan-o-rama, but the good
episodes are satisfying, and Tivo disposes of the soddish ones soon enough.

-Michael

 

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Rupert Boleyn wrote:
> On Mon, 23 May 2005 03:24:28 GMT, Keith Davies
> <keith.davies@kjdavies.org> carved upon a tablet of ether:
>
>> If 3PO got wiped, him not recognizing the farm is no big deal. That
>> Luke's uncle didn't recognize him is a little more weird, but then
>> some 20-30 years can make a difference to human memory.
>
> By SW:ANH there are probably heaps of similar models around. C3P0
> seems pleasantly surprised when he meets another in SW:ESB, rather
> than shocked that there's another in existence, suggesting the model
> is uncommon, but not rare.

They're all over the place. There's at least one other about Leia's ship,
and we see a few, in different colour schemes, at various points in both
RotS and RotJ.

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"Mark Blunden" <m.blundenATntlworld.com@address.invalid> wrote in
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> Rupert Boleyn wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 May 2005 03:24:28 GMT, Keith Davies
>> <keith.davies@kjdavies.org> carved upon a tablet of ether:
>>
>>> If 3PO got wiped, him not recognizing the farm is no big deal. That
>>> Luke's uncle didn't recognize him is a little more weird, but then
>>> some 20-30 years can make a difference to human memory.
>>
>> By SW:ANH there are probably heaps of similar models around. C3P0
>> seems pleasantly surprised when he meets another in SW:ESB, rather
>> than shocked that there's another in existence, suggesting the model
>> is uncommon, but not rare.
>
> They're all over the place. There's at least one other about Leia's ship,
> and we see a few, in different colour schemes, at various points in both
> RotS and RotJ.
>
Which makes C3PO's origin - hand built by Anakin - rather curious, doesn't
it? Or perhaps he got a patent. Or maybe it was a kit.

All rather odd.

(But then, trying to find rational continuity in any movie, especially one
from Lucas, is rather silly anyway.)

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On Mon, 23 May 2005 18:00:07 -0000, No 33 Secretary
<taustin+usenet@hyperbooks.com> wrote:


>Which makes C3PO's origin - hand built by Anakin - rather curious, doesn't
>it? Or perhaps he got a patent. Or maybe it was a kit.

I think C3PO is a rebuild of some trashed protocol droid.

 

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On Mon, 23 May 2005 03:35:40 GMT, Keith Davies <keith.davies@kjdavies.org>
scribed into the ether:

>Matt Frisch <matuse73@yahoo.spam.me.not.com> wrote:
>>
>> Expain the speedy construction time of the second death star then.
>> Further, if Death Star 1 is ~10% done at the end of Episode 3, and
>> hadn't even started construction as of the end of Episode 2, why would
>> it take a further 20-odd years?
>
>"The first 90% of the project takes the first 90% of the time. The
>remaining 10% takes the other 90%."

It's not like they had to lay down carpeting and import fresh flowers every
day.

>> Having an entire galaxy from which to draw both resources and manpower
>> would tend to accelerate the build speed. If the government could
>> afford a few more material contractors and to triple the workforce on
>> that carrier, it would get done a lot sooner. It isn't like the
>> completion date is required by outside forces. The only thing that
>> stops the government from doing anything is money or politics. Neither
>> of which is a problem for the emperor.
>
>Better entrenched after the first one got destroyed than when he
>started. At the end of RoS he'd just grabbed control.

Actually, something that someone else pointed out was that maybe a
substantial period of time had passed. The star destroyer they were in
seemed to be about midway between the ones used in RotS and ANH, the
full-clone-crew had been done away with, and those green imperial navy
uniforms we've come to know and love so well were in place. The fighters
were also changed to be closer to being the TIEs from Ep 1.

The only problem with that theory that I have is that it is shown before
Luke (still an infant) gets handed over to his step-Uncle...and I can't
think of any other time in the 6 movies where a depicted event occurs
flash-forward style in that way.

>I used to fence. Apart from observing that lightsaber use is *way* more
>open than seems reasonable[1], I write it off as Hollywood and leave it
>at that.
>
>[1] when using a weapon that only needs a touch to amputate, and is
> exceedingly light (weightless, AFAIK) the style might make sense --
> get as many potential blows in.

I read somewhere that Christensen and McGregor took like 4 months to train
and practice for their fight. I'm wondering where all that time went. Most
of the fight was just flipping swords back and forth...it was really fast,
but it wasn't particularly impressive. None of the leaping on lava-scoop
droids or swinging around on the severed pillar was the least bit
interesting, because you *know* that it was all entirely green-screened in.
At least in the Matrix movies when the actors had go to through extensive
fight training, it really showed up on screen. It probably didn't help that
the characters were both locked into using blue lightsabers. If one of them
had had a different color, that might have made a difference, but I'm drawn
to the one segment about halfway through the fight where the two of them
are standing about 2 feet apart, and both proceed to do what looks like a
parade-ground flourish, just swinging their arms around and not even
remotely trying to attack the other guy. Almost seems like the CGI guys
screwed up and they were supposed to insert a scene where one of them was
attacking while the other defended, instead of both defending at the same
time.

> Hrm. This suggests that lightsaber fights are all twitch and luck,
> with ah heck all *skill* involved. Interesting.

A lot of it would seem to relate to using the force to "see" a half second
into the future to predict where your opponent is going to swing next, and
coming up with an appropriate counter. If it was all twitch and luck, then
there's no way that 70+ year olds like Dooku and the Emperor could be as
good as they are. Dooku works Obi-Wan and Anakin in Ep2 like he was an NFL
player dropped into the Pop Warner league, and the Emperor takes on 4 Jedi
at once and beats 3 of them.

 

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On Sun, 22 May 2005 22:45:24 -0600, "Glenn Dowdy"
<glenn.dowdy@commiecast.net> scribed into the ether:

>
>"Matt Frisch" <matuse73@yahoo.spam.me.not.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> And oh yea...wtf is up with the Death Star apparently taking more than 20
>> years to actually build? It looks about 10% done at the end of the movie,
>> but it doesn't get finished until 1/3rd of the way through Ep 4...huh?
>>
>It's not the same one. They built the first one, it sank in a swamp. They
>built another one, it sank in the swamp. They built a third one, it burned
>down, fell over and then sank in the swamp. Now the fourth one, that's the
>one we saw in Episode IV.

Best explanation yet!

Maybe that explains that tall tower we see getting blown up in Ep4...that
was where Herbert was.

 

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>
>> I would like to hear about "A Clockwork Orange". How may I
>> subscribe to your newsletter?
>
> Oops, please don't yell at me about the reposting.

No, it was *perfect*. In that one instance, the reposting of the
entire post only made your followup all the funnier.



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Matt Frisch wrote:

> I read somewhere that Christensen and McGregor took like 4 months to train
> and practice for their fight. I'm wondering where all that time went. Most
> of the fight was just flipping swords back and forth...it was really fast,
> but it wasn't particularly impressive. None of the leaping on lava-scoop
> droids or swinging around on the severed pillar was the least bit
> interesting, because you *know* that it was all entirely green-screened in.
> At least in the Matrix movies when the actors had go to through extensive
> fight training, it really showed up on screen. It probably didn't help that
> the characters were both locked into using blue lightsabers. If one of them
> had had a different color, that might have made a difference, but I'm drawn
> to the one segment about halfway through the fight where the two of them
> are standing about 2 feet apart, and both proceed to do what looks like a
> parade-ground flourish, just swinging their arms around and not even
> remotely trying to attack the other guy. Almost seems like the CGI guys
> screwed up and they were supposed to insert a scene where one of them was
> attacking while the other defended, instead of both defending at the same
> time.

That fight is pretty impressive, planning-wise, for the exact reason you
seem to think it's not. Obi-Wan and Anakin are in complete
synchronization the whole time -- pretty much all of their moves are
mirrors of each other. The "parade-ground flourish" thing was,
presumably, some sort of move they'd trained in to be distracting or
dazzling or something... only they both thought to use it at exactly the
same time, negating its usefulness for both of them entirely. There are
other examples of similar things throughout the fight, like the moment
when they both try to spin around each others backs and it ends up being
a useless cooperative pirouette thing, or the perfectly synched force-push.

They're so used to fighting alongside each other as /allies/ that they
really can't behave any other way. It's the other side of their perfect
synchronization near the beginning of the movie, for example when
they're destroying the droids in the elevator and not worried at all
about hurting each other.

I thought the Obi-Wan/Anakin fight was pretty much everything it was
supposed to be.
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David Johnston wrote:

> I think C3PO is a rebuild of some trashed protocol droid.

Or else the humanoid frame we see in EpI is fairly common and easy to
make, and the shell that was added between Eps I and II was cheaply
acquired mass-produced parts, probably bought used.
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Dirk Collins wrote:

> I go thumbs up on all four of the movies you mentioned, and don't
> keep up with current space-opera or TV series much, though I
> really liked Lost In Space, Kolchak: The Night Stalker, Battlestar
> Galactica, X-files, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Lost World, Dark
> Angel, BG 2005, Some episodes of Stargate SG-1, Star Trek (the
> original, TNG, DS-9 & Voyager), Farscape, Space: Above & Beyond,
> Twin Peaks, the short-lived Firefly, the early episodes of
> Seaquest DSV, and the first season of Lexx.

Has anyone else been keeping up with "Lost?" It's one of the very few
shows I actually make an effort to be home for. I'm not sure it's
strictly sci-fi, but it represents my preferred formula: seriously
character-driven, with just enough wierd stuff to spice things up.

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>
>I'm hoping Shaak Ti gets some more screen time and a purposeful death
>scene. She rocked in Clone Wars Season 3 and didn't show up in EpIII at
>all.

Hm. I thought she got gunned down in the flowers, or was that another
jedi, and I'm just misremembering?



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Ed Chauvin IV wrote:
> Mere moments before death, Stephenls hastily scrawled:
>>I'm hoping Shaak Ti gets some more screen time and a purposeful death
>>scene. She rocked in Clone Wars Season 3 and didn't show up in EpIII at
>>all.
> Hm. I thought she got gunned down in the flowers, or was that another
> jedi, and I'm just misremembering?

I think that was the green woman, similar with the two long tendrils flowing
down her back. She was pretty hot looking to me.
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Rupert Boleyn wrote:
> On Mon, 23 May 2005 03:24:28 GMT, Keith Davies
> <keith.davies@kjdavies.org> carved upon a tablet of ether:
>
> > If 3PO got wiped, him not recognizing the farm is no big deal. That
> > Luke's uncle didn't recognize him is a little more weird, but then some
> > 20-30 years can make a difference to human memory.
>
> By SW:ANH there are probably heaps of similar models around. C3P0
> seems pleasantly surprised when he meets another in SW:ESB, rather
> than shocked that there's another in existence, suggesting the model
> is uncommon, but not rare.

I seem to recall seeing another protocol droid on the same Rebel
Blockade Runner 3PO escaped from.


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Mark Blunden wrote:
>
> They're all over the place. There's at least one other about Leia's ship,
> and we see a few, in different colour schemes, at various points in both
> RotS and RotJ.

What about the one with the female voice on the Trade Federation ship
in Phantom Menace?


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Stephenls <stephenls@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Matt Frisch wrote:
>
>> [Obi-wan/Vader fight over lava]
>
> They're so used to fighting alongside each other as /allies/ that they
> really can't behave any other way. It's the other side of their
> perfect synchronization near the beginning of the movie, for example
> when they're destroying the droids in the elevator and not worried at
> all about hurting each other.

I hadn't considered that, but it certainly seems reasonable -- they're
so close to each other that victory for either would be in doubt.

OTOH, it might have been better if Vader used some of the dark side
stuff he may have picked up. Not that he had a lot of time for training
at that point, but he could've channeled his anger and taken advantage
of that.

Hmm... perhaps he did, at the start of the fight, then switched back to
what he knew better (because he hadn't learned how to channel his anger
well yet? or maybe because he fell back into old patterns of fighting
with Obi-Wan from training? -- habit).


I suppose it makes more sense that they fought the same. Had Vader
pulled out the dark side stuff I can see people complaining "how did he
learn that so fast?!".


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Ed Chauvin IV wrote:

> Hm. I thought she got gunned down in the flowers, or was that another
> jedi, and I'm just misremembering?

That was a twi'lek. A different race of tentacle-headed humanoids Shaak
Ti is.
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Keith Davies wrote:

> I hadn't considered that, but it certainly seems reasonable -- they're
> so close to each other that victory for either would be in doubt.

> OTOH, it might have been better if Vader used some of the dark side
> stuff he may have picked up. Not that he had a lot of time for training
> at that point, but he could've channeled his anger and taken advantage
> of that.

> Hmm... perhaps he did, at the start of the fight, then switched back to
> what he knew better (because he hadn't learned how to channel his anger
> well yet? or maybe because he fell back into old patterns of fighting
> with Obi-Wan from training? -- habit).

> I suppose it makes more sense that they fought the same. Had Vader
> pulled out the dark side stuff I can see people complaining "how did he
> learn that so fast?!".

Honestly, I think if Anakin had pulled out the Dark Side stuff in an
obvious manner it would have been a much more boring fight, because
Light Side vs. Dark Side has been every other lightsaber duel in the
movies. The degree to which Obi-Wan and Anakin were perfectly matched
during that duel was really impressive (or I found it so) from a
choreography standpoint.

For the same reason I like that they were both using blue lightsabers.
It gave the fight a distinctive look that it wouldn't have had if it'd
been blue-on-green.

In terms of in-movie rational, I think there were moments when Anakin
was channeling rage, but most of the time he was relying on reflexive
skill. And he hadn't actually trained with Sith lightsaber techniques
at all yet.

I wonder what degree Lucas will re-do the lightsaber duels in Eps IV, V,
and VI for the HD-DVD/Blu-Ray release in six years or so. I know
they're already planning for it. Honestly, I'd kinda enjoy it if they
spruced up the Obi-Wan/Vader fight in ANH a bit, and am ambivalent
towards the idea of re-doing the one in ESB, but would be unhappy if
they changed the RotJ fight.
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~consul <consul@INVALIDdolphins-cove.com> wrote:
> Ed Chauvin IV wrote:
>> Mere moments before death, Stephenls hastily scrawled:
>>>I'm hoping Shaak Ti gets some more screen time and a purposeful death
>>>scene. She rocked in Clone Wars Season 3 and didn't show up in EpIII at
>>>all.
>> Hm. I thought she got gunned down in the flowers, or was that another
>> jedi, and I'm just misremembering?
>
> I think that was the green woman, similar with the two long tendrils
> flowing down her back. She was pretty hot looking to me.

Tentacle love?

http://ghastly.keenspace.com/


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Keith Davies wrote:
> ~consul <consul@INVALIDdolphins-cove.com> wrote:
>>I think that was the green woman, similar with the two long tendrils
>>flowing down her back. She was pretty hot looking to me.
> Tentacle love?
> http://ghastly.keenspace.com/

Not the tentacles, but she's got such a powerful and assured stride to her walk.
Very confident woman.
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Madkaugh wrote:
> Sea Wasp wrote:
>
>> Story arc? It was one movie. No time for story arcs. It had one
>>(rather muddled and clumsily handled) story to tell. It's one of my
>>least-favorite movies that I don't consider pure trash.
>>
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>
> Two movies

No. Kubrick, the director in question, wasn't doing 2010, and we
weren't talking about anything but 2001 itself.




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