Rockstar; why no GTA 4 for PC?

[frankthetank707]

IMO what game developers need to realise is that online multi players are the only way to stop piracy. single player games are a thing of the past. i didnt even know that there was a single player version of call of duty 4 until my internet went out for a couple days and it was so lame i played solitare instead. single player version games should be released as demos and the online multi player games will force people to purchase the games to get the full experiance.
and on another note... playing a first person shooter on a console is pointless, without a mouse there is no way that you could react as fast as you should be able to or as accuratly, if you are shooting on a console its time to man up and play with the big dogs. spend the dough, build a rig and lets see how good you really are. and i will kill you.

 

[cafuddled]

I don’t care if a games on PC or if a games on the console, I have both a very high spec PC and a X360 and will no doubt have a PS3 once I can persuade my love and joy that a Blue Ray set top player will be worth the buy (roughly at the same time MGS4 is released I bet). Really at the quality these days games on both platforms are just as good as each other. But why I have a 360 is because I wanted to play console exclusive games.

Really who should really give a damn what you play a game on, you don’t buy a console or a PC for the unit it’s self if you’re a gamer. You buy the unit to play the games, if you’re a true gamer you won’t even care about platforms you will just care about sinking your teeth in to the latest and greatest games.

I do agree that if I had a choice about which platform a game was to be played on it would 99% of the time be on the PC. But that’s merely because of the control method in place with the PC, you sit right down in front of a monitor and you have (what I think is) the most natural control type in the world at your fingers. Not to mention playing games at more than 1080p resolution and the ultra fast load times of textures and levels.

But that’s not to say that all games are best played on the PC, in fact GTA is a very good example. All the GTA’s since 3 I have had on the PS2 and on the PC, and even though the graphics are far superior on the PC I still prefer to play them all on the console. Simply because it’s pants to drive a car with a keyboard, and swapping to a joypad would just be annoying.

 

[ph33rgear]

I don’t care if a games on PC or if a games on the console, I have both a very high spec PC and a X360 and will no doubt have a PS3 once I can persuade my love and joy that a Blue Ray set top player will be worth the buy (roughly at the same time MGS4 is released I bet). Really at the quality these days games on both platforms are just as good as each other. But why I have a 360 is because I wanted to play console exclusive games.

Really who should really give a damn what you play a game on, you don’t buy a console or a PC for the unit it’s self if you’re a gamer. You buy the unit to play the games, if you’re a true gamer you won’t even care about platforms you will just care about sinking your teeth in to the latest and greatest games.

I do agree that if I had a choice about which platform a game was to be played on it would 99% of the time be on the PC. But that’s merely because of the control method in place with the PC, you sit right down in front of a monitor and you have (what I think is) the most natural control type in the world at your fingers. Not to mention playing games at more than 1080p resolution and the ultra fast load times of textures and levels.

But that’s not to say that all games are best played on the PC, in fact GTA is a very good example. All the GTA’s since 3 I have had on the PS2 and on the PC, and even though the graphics are far superior on the PC I still prefer to play them all on the console. Simply because it’s pants to drive a car with a keyboard, and swapping to a joypad would just be annoying.

I thought switching to a joypad all the time would be annoying too... but once you have it plugged into your usb and sitting right there it's not so bad.. give it a shot, you may or may not like it

I got the Saitek FPS Cyborg rumble pad for what its worth...

 

[Heyyou27]

And, uh, how many billions of dollars has WoW made on the PC platform on which there is simply no money?

My gosh, that sure is an accurate comparison. The most popular subscription based MMORPG ever, to a new installment of GTA. It's sad, but this entire forum is in denial. Perhaps you didn't see Crytek say they're no longer going to create games exclusively for the PC? If the PC is such a viable platform, why does Epic release their games on the consoles now?

No money in the platform? What a load of crap. Retail sales may be down, but that's only because the PC games market is becoming more about online distribution. PC games sales are actually rising thanks to online distibution and the added protection against piracy that it brings (Steam anyone?). Anyway, even though the PS3 and XBox 360 versions have been released already, there are a huge ammount of PC gamers that will wait for the PC release and will avoid the console Beta versions. Rockstar can easily make far more money from PC sales than they will need to spend making it workable on a PC. They want to make a profit and I'd imagine, if they have any sense, that they don't want to alienate a large proportion of their consumer base.

Also, imagine if it had been released for the PC and consoles simultaneously. That day one figure would have been far higher and some of the PS3 and Xbox sales would never have happened as any gamer with a half decent rig would have bought it for their PC instead. I'm sure alot of the current sales are PC gamers who either don't want to wait or have bought into the BS that console fanboys spout about it never coming to a PC.

How in the hell is Rockstar going to make more money on the PC version than they do on the 360 and PS3? When GTA IV comes out on the PC, I'd expect it's system requirements to be very similar to Crysis, as the game is extremely taxing on both the Xbox360 and PS3, and the graphics are damn good. If this is the case, how can you expect a small install base like that to create a larger profit for Rockstar than the 30 million Xbox360 and PS3s out there?

Yes it's true that Steam is an awesome setup, and PC games are being distributed digitally quite a lot, which takes away from the retail sales numbers, but if it was really as good as you claim, don't you think Rockstar would have released a PC version the same day as the Xbox360 and PS3? Would Epic even be bothering with Microsoft and the Xbox360 if they could make a much better, more complex Gears of War? It's not like Epic is in love with Microsoft, it's simply that their platform is guaranteed to give them bigger returns.

P.S. I would have purchased GTA IV on the PC had it released the same day... 🙁

 

[tomdrum]

surely the amount of people who would buy the game for pc on this forum shows theres demand for the game, and im sure any cost they sell it at will give them a profit margin enough to justify selling it to PC gamers.

Also, hasnt the recent evolution of consoles in online play and hardware shown how essential the PC is to games consoles? I daresay the next generation will simply be a closer step to becoming a PC.

 

[medfreaky]

When GTA IV comes out on the PC, I'd expect it's system requirements to be very similar to Crysis, as the game is extremely taxing on both the Xbox360 and PS3, and the graphics are damn good. If this is the case, how can you expect a small install base like that to create a larger profit for Rockstar than the 30 million Xbox360 and PS3s out there?(

Noway. GTA 4 pc requirements are going to be around oblivion level, not crysis level. And right now, far more people have access to hardware that could run oblivion, than people that could run crysis. Now with $500 PC upgrades that could make your PC run Crysis at high at a decent frame rate, it is more accessible than ever.

In fact, I think we have reached this sweet spot in console cycles, where buying PC hardware superior to consoles is cheaper than a console. That is not even taking into consideration the price of an HD TV, while any PC can run games at supra HD resolutions.

 

[cafuddled]

It’s a simple fact on why it has not been released on the PC really. I think it has already been said on this thread in fact. Microsoft and Sony will have paid mega bucks to Take2 to make it an exclusive on their consoles.

There are two outcomes from this:

1) Either Microsoft or Sony would have stated in their terms for exclusivity that only Microsoft or Sony would receive the product up to a certain amount of time after the games release date.
2) Rock Star put a priority on the console release as they where getting paid money to do so. There for the PC version of the game gets pushed to the backburner till they have released the game and cleared sources to convert and enhance the game for PC users.

I think with the PC versions of the GTA franchise traditionally being released 6 months to a year after the game has been released on the console that it most likely is the former but with a little bit of the latter which has stopped Rock Star from arguing for a PC version co release.

 

[jimmysmitty]

Never seen a console lag? I don't think you've played enough games. Sure, the old consoles didn't lag (i.e., 8- and 16-bit systems). Maybe even the PS and PS2 didn't lag, but I was more entrenched in PC gaming during those years. But the Xbox and 360? I've seen plenty of lag on both. Pretty sad, actually, considering the oft-mentioned hardware finality of consoles...

Dude I made the PS2 lag in GTA3. Had like 30 cars in a pile, jumped on top and threw a few grenades. Needless to say they all blew up at the same time and it took a few seconds for it to calculate all of that kaboominess. I also died in the process but flew to the third island (I was on the second island).

My gosh, that sure is an accurate comparison. The most popular subscription based MMORPG ever, to a new installment of GTA. It's sad, but this entire forum is in denial. Perhaps you didn't see Crytek say they're no longer going to create games exclusively for the PC? If the PC is such a viable platform, why does Epic release their games on the consoles now?

How in the hell is Rockstar going to make more money on the PC version than they do on the 360 and PS3? When GTA IV comes out on the PC, I'd expect it's system requirements to be very similar to Crysis, as the game is extremely taxing on both the Xbox360 and PS3, and the graphics are damn good. If this is the case, how can you expect a small install base like that to create a larger profit for Rockstar than the 30 million Xbox360 and PS3s out there?

Yes it's true that Steam is an awesome setup, and PC games are being distributed digitally quite a lot, which takes away from the retail sales numbers, but if it was really as good as you claim, don't you think Rockstar would have released a PC version the same day as the Xbox360 and PS3? Would Epic even be bothering with Microsoft and the Xbox360 if they could make a much better, more complex Gears of War? It's not like Epic is in love with Microsoft, it's simply that their platform is guaranteed to give them bigger returns.

P.S. I would have purchased GTA IV on the PC had it released the same day... 🙁

Actually what Rockstar does is quite smart. I played all the GTA3 serries (GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas) all the way through on PS2 before the PC version came out. But guess what. I still bought each one for PC when it hit the market. Why? Better graphics and plus MODS.

Steam has 15 million users and a lot of companies are starting to jump on using it. Its the best one out there (D2D sucks as does EAs version). In fact Rockstar just added the GTA collection which has allll of the GTA series. Thats GTA, GTA: London 1969, GTA2, GTA3, GTA: VC and GTA: SA. This means that Steam might have GTA IV as well when it comes out.

And people will buy the PC version over console versions cuz of better graphics. But instead of just putting it out at the same time Rockstar likes to give us better versions of it. And I love them for that.

But even if not we still have TF2 which will always be better than the console version.

 

[mothhive]

How in the hell is Rockstar going to make more money on the PC version than they do on the 360 and PS3? When GTA IV comes out on the PC, I'd expect it's system requirements to be very similar to Crysis, as the game is extremely taxing on both the Xbox360 and PS3, and the graphics are damn good. If this is the case, how can you expect a small install base like that to create a larger profit for Rockstar than the 30 million Xbox360 and PS3s out there?

Think you may have misread what I said. I said the day one figure would be higher. As in for all 3 platforms, rather than just the 2. I'm not such a PC fanboy that I'm blinded to the fact that games make more money on consoles than on PC. 😀

As for the specs, it's no where near Crysis level. Even with improved graphics over the consoles, it's still not going to be as taxing. GTA IV is pretty lacking in the graphics department to be honest, it is just very good for the scale. Even the reviewers that were soiling themselves over this game admit the graphics are not the best on either console.

 

[KingLoftusXII]

It's not the graphics, it's the gameplay. I was an exclusive PC gamer for years. Then I bought a PS3 for Blu-ray, got a couple games for it, and started having fun again.

Yes the 360 and PS3 aren't "upgradable." That's the point and they're biggest advantage. You buy a 360 or PS3 and you know you're all set for a few YEARS as apposed to MONTHS with a PC.

So...you guys continue to fight that PC games are better, with better controls, and better graphics. Meanwhile, I'll be playing GTA4 with my feet up, with many a beer on my 110" projector.

It's money people. More is to be made off of 360 and PS3 sales period. Is there a market for PC games? Absolutely. Enough to justify "porting" the games to Windows instantly? It appears not. Get over it.

 

[mothhive]

It's not the graphics, it's the gameplay. I was an exclusive PC gamer for years. Then I bought a PS3 for Blu-ray, got a couple games for it, and started having fun again.

Yes the 360 and PS3 aren't "upgradable." That's the point and they're biggest advantage. You buy a 360 or PS3 and you know you're all set for a few YEARS as apposed to MONTHS with a PC.

You bought a PS3 for Blu-ray? lol You can get a Blu-Ray drive for a PC for 1/3 of the price of a PS3 and it will also act as a DVD + CD writer/reader. I'm not saying playing games on a PS3 isn't fun, but I much prefer being able to do everything on 1 system, and a system that does it better too! Tell me, did you post that message on your PS3? No. You have a PS3, but still need a PC. I have a PC and don't need anything else (I'm quite happy to wait for GTA IV as I was for the others).

PS3 and 360 will set you up for years? True, if you don't mind playing inferior games that look the same as they did when the console was first released. How much innovation can be made when the games have to be developed for a set spec? Not upgradeable their biggest advantage? I hope that was a spelling mistake! You're going to be playing the same recycled crap for the next few years, while PC games pull further ahead. Any hits on the PC may trickle down to the consoles, but with reduced graphics/feature set to make it playable on your already outdated technology. PCs only last a few months? BS! The one I'm on right now I built myself 7 years ago for £500. It can even play Half Life 2, maybe not as pretty as your PS3, but like you said, graphics don't matter. Sure, I can't play the latest PC games, but can a PS2 play your PS3 games? Yes, now I need to upgrade to play the lates games, and have just ordered parts for a new PC. It won't just last a few months, but several years. Even if it starts to struggle a few years down the line, it is easily upgradable and I can add more RAM or a new graphics card (or 2 or 3) if needed. It's not like I have to get the latest and greatest tech each time it's released like console gamers (or the rich PC enthusiast), I can upgrade only when I need it and when the hardware comes down in price. Speaking of struggling, the PS3 and 360 have been struggling with GTA IV from what I've seen, and it's graphics and scale aren't as great as they are made out to be. The consoles have already hit a wall and you're going to have to wait years to buy a whole new console to have any improvement!

Also, this new PC I'm building will still be able to play my entire back catalogue of games. Can your PS3 play all your playstation 1 and 2 games perfectly. Nope. It definately can't play your PC games. PCs can play any PC game (some of the really old ones may require a tweak or patch, but they all work perfectly for me) and can even emulate previous console games. Does your PS3 have a huge mod community that extend the lifespan of your games? Patches? Addons? How about an indie game community that provide you with innovative and FREE games? Thought not.

The only advantages a console has over a PC is the "exclusive" games (alot of which come out for PC later, but improved) and the ease of use, but to be honest, you have to be a complete moron to think that running a game on a PC is a difficult task.

 

[tomdrum]

The most annoying thing for me on consoles is your complete dependancy on the game creaters to continue creating content to keep it fresh..with PC theres always something free to download and try for the game.

Plus i only really play FPS, and Pc owns it up pretty much for most games. Even if i have to wait for a couple of games, it usually has its advantages (more content, better graphics etc)

 

[KingLoftusXII]

You bought a PS3 for Blu-ray? lol You can get a Blu-Ray drive for a PC for 1/3 of the price of a PS3 and it will also act as a DVD + CD writer/reader. I'm not saying playing games on a PS3 isn't fun, but I much prefer being able to do everything on 1 system, and a system that does it better too! I have a PC and don't need anything else (I'm quite happy to wait for GTA IV as I was for the others).

Keep waiting then. Your rambling post misses the point. I have a gaming PC as well as a PS3, Wii, etc. Don't be so close-minded and think your solution is best. A Blu-ray player for my PC wasn't practical for my theater room and projector. All things being equal, I prefer gaming on a PC, but they're not, so I chose both. You can harp about PC only being the way to go, fine. Enjoy GTA4 when I've long since been done with it and moved onto something else...

Tell me, did you post that message on your PS3? No...but still need a PC.

No, but I could have. The PS3 has a web browser and can load an operating system if desired. Your lack of education on the subject makes your arguement null and void. Try again later...

 

[Heyyou27]

Keep waiting then. Your rambling post misses the point. I have a gaming PC as well as a PS3, Wii, etc. Don't be so close-minded and think your solution is best. A Blu-ray player for my PC wasn't practical for my theater room and projector. All things being equal, I prefer gaming on a PC, but they're not, so I chose both. You can harp about PC only being the way to go, fine. Enjoy GTA4 when I've long since been done with it and moved onto something else...



No, but I could have. The PS3 has a web browser and can load an operating system if desired. Your lack of education on the subject makes your arguement null and void. Try again later...

I own the Xbox360, PS3, Wii, and a PC for gaming and am able to enjoy so much more than if I just owned a PC. Most of this forum would argue about the advantages of the PC as a platform until death, regardless of the obvious changes that has been occurring. In a few years when the Xbox360 and PS3 are older, the PC will become a more attractive platform again with developers who wish to get away from the what will be serious hardware limitations, in comparison to what should be available to the PC market.

 

[mothhive]

Enjoy GTA4 when I've long since been done with it and moved onto something else...

Don't worry, I'm sure I will! Enjoy the console beta while I wait for the full version.

Oh, and having Dell label it as a gaming PC, doesn't make it so. It obviously isn't if it needs to be replaced after 6 months.

 

[tomdrum]

I dont see the Kudos in owning and completing a game before other people

Im personaly not saying anything bad about ANY platform. I wanted a 360, but couldnt really afford one along with the games. Iv been gaming on the PC the same amount of time as consoles and been enjoying Cs 1.6 (still more enjoyable than most shooters). The only game i would want is Halo 3, but im sure that will appear soon and its not as if the game will disappear. Other than that im realy not seeing any game which isnt on PC which is making me want a console. So far its all been pretty disappointing.

I thought to myself...i want some 360 games but that means buying a whole new console and game. Crysis and other games on the other hand is cheaper and just reuqired a new graphics card (About £100 less than a console). This means that my PC can play all previous games and will more than cope with upcoming games, which will all be cheaper for me.

So bascially the PC isnt a dead gaming machine..i think its all been taken too seriously lol. In terms of hardware, the PC clearly overpowers the consoles and can play with a bad graphical game, or upcoming games that push the limits, which the consoles dont really support and it doesnt seem practical to me. Yes, in afew years, developers will be looking at their consoles and thinking...isnt this just a PC?? I think this is more a case of gettign through a period of slow development waiting for them to catch up .

 

[KingLoftusXII]

Don't worry, I'm sure I will! Enjoy the console beta while I wait for the full version.

Oh, and having Dell label it as a gaming PC, doesn't make it so. It obviously isn't if it needs to be replaced after 6 months.

Listen newbie...I build my sh*t. You couldn't respond to your lack of knowledge about the PS3 web browsing abilities so now you make another retarded assumption. Bravo! *golf clap*

I never said 6 months, but since you did...a top of the line rig now won't be in 6 months. That's the point. Also, you failed to notice I said I prefer gaming on my PC...

*tomdrum with another whifffff....*

 

[mothhive]

Listen newbie...I build my sh*t. You couldn't respond to your lack of knowledge about the PS3 web browsing abilities so now you make another retarded assumption. Bravo! *golf clap*

I never said 6 months, but since you did...a top of the line rig now won't be in 6 months. That's the point. Also, you failed to notice I said I prefer gaming on my PC...

Sorry if you're getting a little upset at my posts, but yes, I made an assumption. I thought that if your PC only lasted months, it must have been built by Dell. I didn't realise that you built "sh*t". Also, why would I respond to my lack of knowledge? You hit the nail on the head about my lack of education on the subject and informed me of something which I was not previously aware of, although I don't ever recall saying that it couldn't browse the web. Doesn't change the fact that you still choose to use your PC to browse the net as I had assumed and therefore proved my point. If it hasn't become your web browsing machine of choice, then it can't possibly be as good or as convenient as a PC.

I never said 6 months, but since you did...a top of the line rig now won't be in 6 months. That's the point. Also, you failed to notice I said I prefer gaming on my PC...

Not sure where you're going with that one. Does it matter if it's not top of the line after 6 months if it's still capable of playing the latest games? I built a mid range PC for my friend a year ago and it still plays all the latest games perfectly, including Crysis (sure, not at all high settings, but it still looks awesome!). Are you one of those people who has to always own all the best tech (including all consoles) and replaces something just because there's a better version out? Well, most of us aren't as fortunate as yourself and can't afford such luxury, so it's more cost effective to have 1 system that can do it all and last us several years. Also, out of curiosity, do you consider the PS3 top of the line just because there isn't a PS4 to better it?

Forgive me if I failed to notice that you attempted to say that you prefer gaming on your PC, the wording made it sound like the exact opposite.

All things being equal, I prefer gaming on a PC, but they're not

Anyway, I think this thread is getting derailed a bit now. Lets leave it at this before there's anymore name calling shall we?

 

[ihatemicrocock666]

HI I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY HOW F**KED OFF I AM WITH XBOX 360 PEOPLE AND MAYBE SOME PLAYSTATION 3 PPL THO I HAVENT SEEN THEM SAY ALL THE BULLS**IT THAT XBOX 360 USERS HAVE

SO FAR XBOX 360 USERS ARE SAYING TO EVERYONE THAT US PC GAMERS A POOR PEOPLE WITH NO MONEY COSE WE BUILD PCS THAT LAG AND CANT AFFORD GAMES SO WE DOWNLOAD THEM

XBOX 360 F**KWITS SHOULD COME TO SEE MY GAME COLLECTION YES SOME ARE DOWNLOADED BUT MOST ARE BROUGHT GAMES YOU KNOW YOU GO INTO A PC STORE LIKE EB GAMES FOR EXAMPLE AND HAND OVER A THING CALLED MONEY

ANYWAYS THIS IS PROOF XBOX 360 USERS PIRATE GAMES TO AND ILD SAY ITS JUST AS BIG AS IT IN ON XBOX 360 PLAYSTATION 3 AND PC

WITH THE ACCEPTION OF THE PC HAVING MORE GAMES

PCS ARE ALOT MORE POWERFULL I MEAN COME BACK TO ME WHEN THE XBOX 360 AND PLAYSTATION 3 HAVE A QUAD CORE PROCESSOR THATS 4 CORES AND A ACTUAL GRAPHICS CARD COOLED BY FANS NOT HEAT SINKS LIKE MICROCOCK

THATS THE DUMBEST IDEA IN THE WORLD NO WONDER WHY XBOX 360 USERS GET THE RING OF DEATH YOU DO NOT COOL DOWN A HIGH POWERED GPU WITH F**KEN HEAT SINKS

BILL GATES JUST WANTED THE SYSTEM QUIET TO WATCH KIDDY PORN

IM PISSED THAT MICOCOCK O YES IM DISSING THEM COSE THEY HAVE BEEN LOOKING AWAY FROM PC GAMES

THEY SEEM TO STILL BE HAVING A CRY COSE HALO 2 GOT HACKED EVEN ENOUGH FOR IT TO BE PUT ON XP AND THE GRAPHICS ON THAT WHERE ****

MICOCOCK U HAVE MADE A ENEMY TODAY AND I SWEAR SINCE U BROUGHT HALF THE RIGHT OFF ROCKSTAR 12 MILLION DOLLARS WORTH YOU COULD ATLEAST STOP HAVING A CRY AND RELEASE GTA 4 TO PC

PIRACY WILL ALWAYS BE AROUND REMEMBER THERES A **** OF PEOPLE THAT BUY THE GAME COSE OF THE EXTRA CONTENT AND THE BOOK
AND THE ACTUAL CD SO ON

I PLAY CRYSIS ON HIGH GRAPHICS WITH HARDLY NO LAG BUT A LITTLE BIT COSE OF MY MOTHERBOARD AND MY CPU NEEDS UPGRADING
DONT YOU WITH YOU COULD PUT A NVIDIA 8900 GTX IN YOUR XBOX 360

IN MY EYES PCS AND CONSOLES ARE THE SAME TO ME BUT WHEN PEOPLE OUT THERE SAY I PIRATE GAMES THEN THAT REALLY REALLY F**KS ME OFF

HERE IS THE PROOF THAT XBOX 360 USERS PIRATE GAMES
http://search.utorrent.com/search.php?q=grand%20theft%20auto%204&e=http%3a%2f%2fthepiratebay.org%2fsearch.php%3fq%3d&u=1

THIS IS THE LINK TO DOWNLOAD GTA 4 FOR XBOX 360

 

[KingLoftusXII]

Well, most of us aren't as fortunate as yourself and can't afford such luxuryAnyway, ?

I'm still running a 6800GT(OC'd) 😉

I think this thread is getting derailed a bit now. Lets leave it at this before there's anymore name calling shall we?

Agreed.

 

[GabeLogan]

Why do you refuse to get a console? They have some of the best games out there. If you really love gaming, you should get one and see what you're missing. GTA 3 was released first on ps2 after all. Don't limit yourself to one platform. Pointless these days, especially with games like Halo 3, MGS 4 and the like soon to be released.

Well my son has both a ps3 and a XBox 360 but I wont buy GTA4 untill it comes out on PC which I dearly hope it will because I hate playing with a sodding game pad,its **** and theres also many things you can do with PC games that you cannot with a console version....im with the guy who posted this 100% and I am a die hard GTA fan too and have played them since GTA3 and still play GTA:SA often now because of the sheer gameplay,those games have everything a gamer wants.
Gabe

 

[Heyyou27]

Well my son has both a ps3 and a XBox 360 but I wont buy GTA4 untill it comes out on PC which I dearly hope it will because I hate playing with a sodding game pad,its **** and theres also many things you can do with PC games that you cannot with a console version....im with the guy who posted this 100% and I am a die hard GTA fan too and have played them since GTA3 and still play GTA:SA often now because of the sheer gameplay,those games have everything a gamer wants.
Gabe

If you have only played them since GTA3 then you're not a die hard fan.

 

[ph33rgear]

When it comes out for PC everyone in this thread needs to get online and beat the crap out of each other for a few hours :lol:

 

[bignick277]

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[Freezeron]

Alex the PC Gamer:
Hey, I'm a gamer too but I have to go with my studies in finance and disagree.

Game devellopers are not creating games because games are fun to play... regardless or the platform. They create games to make money and make a good profit.

Hence, as most of you know, PC suffers from illegal downloads/cracked game and the consumers get the product for free...actually what I mean is the producer does not get monetary exchange from these pirated products. Solution? Consoles...which is less subject to piracy.

Yes, it use to be about the exclusive right to have a game to a console and use to be the battle of which console has better games but you'll notice a lot more cross-platform games in the last year. Because it is more profitable to sell on both consoles right now. You'll also notice a trend for PC games is massive multiplayer games because it is easier for publishers to avoid fraud if you have to login to a server to play under your license agreement.

So, from a business point of view, to make as much profit as possible, you almost have to go with consoles. On the other hand, there is still a huge market in PC gaming... so it is in the publishers' best interest to cross platforms and sell in multiple markets...unless Microsoft and/or Sony make an even better proposal of purchasing exclusive rights to their platform.

As much as people love to download "free" pirated games, it hurts the PC industry a lot...and this is one of the consequences. Buy your PC games and you shall find more publishers showing interest in PC games...perhaps even launching them at the same time as consoles but I doubt people will change overnight.

Nota: Fraud is one of the main problems but exclusive right is another big reason of course. Microsoft and/or Sony pay huge amounts of money to publishers to get their rights. They also get a share of each game being sold and is once again much more profitable than the equivalent of the PC industry.




Ok, so let's get started...
Dude, I'm living in Greece, so don't start with the profits...
I'm working like speedy gonzales and never get enough money to get all the games that I want...
So Making profit in economical doesn't fit... (I' m studying economical too and so what?)
You have to satisfy a customer (that's your first and only one purpose) and after that you will get the f... money!
That the law of the market.
Those who tried to make profit don't put the heart to make their project alive and the most of the industries goes to hell because of that.

And NO, I will not get a fuc... console (that is a camouflaged PC), to just play games![Ya, you can spend 70euros and get beyboard and a mouse for your PS3 to reply to that thread]

Ok maybe a Wii (for party fun only), but I don't think I got the money for that either...