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After almost 2 months of windows 8, I am being driven mad... I should have saved that hdd error I had last night and today and then all of a sudden windows starts reporting I'm out of space when I should have 3 and a half gigs left on the ssd.. reboot and it's 3 gigs again... that's if you can reboot.. fails to shutdown forcing me to do a hard shutdown.. most times.
extremely slow booting followed by a freeze on login where I can type the login but return and the log in button animate but do nothing... on a rare occasion I won't have that problem however, then it just takes forever to log in.
My hardware is good and windows 7 had no problems running for the past year but, I'm looking to format and start over again. I did do an upgrade so I'll give win 8 one more try from a fresh install and hope for the best.
With the problems I am having I'm surprised people are just complaining about the ugly UI on both the desktop and the metro, as a graphic designer every time I log in I am in pain. Don't get me wrong the metro design has potential but, the colour choice for some of the default apps is so bad I had to uninstall most of the built in metro apps.
As for the Desktop Ui well.. that's unredeemable.. the massive disgusting border around every window and every-time I close a window I can see how they didn't bother to line up the buttons good at all.. 1 pixel space on the top and what 8-10 on the right WTF!
How can the same company that designed the UI for xbox 360 be the same company that designed win 8.. Xbox pretty.. windows 8 desktop plastic toy.
Anyway here is hoping star-dock comes out with a new version of there ui software and wish me luck as I try windows 8 again.
extremely slow booting followed by a freeze on login where I can type the login but return and the log in button animate but do nothing... on a rare occasion I won't have that problem however, then it just takes forever to log in.
My hardware is good and windows 7 had no problems running for the past year but, I'm looking to format and start over again. I did do an upgrade so I'll give win 8 one more try from a fresh install and hope for the best.
With the problems I am having I'm surprised people are just complaining about the ugly UI on both the desktop and the metro, as a graphic designer every time I log in I am in pain. Don't get me wrong the metro design has potential but, the colour choice for some of the default apps is so bad I had to uninstall most of the built in metro apps.
As for the Desktop Ui well.. that's unredeemable.. the massive disgusting border around every window and every-time I close a window I can see how they didn't bother to line up the buttons good at all.. 1 pixel space on the top and what 8-10 on the right WTF!
How can the same company that designed the UI for xbox 360 be the same company that designed win 8.. Xbox pretty.. windows 8 desktop plastic toy.
Anyway here is hoping star-dock comes out with a new version of there ui software and wish me luck as I try windows 8 again.
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[citation][nom]super d spamalot[/nom]It's not terribly interesting. It's just a re-hash of the same discussion that happened when XP came out. No matter that XP was technologically way better then 98, because it looked different everyone called it a failure... Until they started using it a year or two later, and then hailed it as the best Windows ever. Some of these clowns no doubt STILL think of XP as the best version of Windows. Just do what I do and see the entertainment value of it. It's like a real live zoo for neanderthals. Tom's gives them a treat (A story with Windows 8 in the title) and we get to watch them perform. Their grunts and other such attempts to communicate coherent thoughts are just so cute.[/citation]
Totally agree here + 1000000000
Totally agree here + 1000000000
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[citation][nom]ultameca[/nom]After almost 2 months of windows 8, I am being driven mad... I should have saved that hdd error I had last night and today and then all of a sudden windows starts reporting I'm out of space when I should have 3 and a half gigs left on the ssd.. reboot and it's 3 gigs again... that's if you can reboot.. fails to shutdown forcing me to do a hard shutdown.. most times. extremely slow booting followed by a freeze on login where I can type the login but return and the log in button animate but do nothing... on a rare occasion I won't have that problem however, then it just takes forever to log in.My hardware is good and windows 7 had no problems running for the past year but, I'm looking to format and start over again. I did do an upgrade so I'll give win 8 one more try from a fresh install and hope for the best.With the problems I am having I'm surprised people are just complaining about the ugly UI on both the desktop and the metro, as a graphic designer every time I log in I am in pain. Don't get me wrong the metro design has potential but, the colour choice for some of the default apps is so bad I had to uninstall most of the built in metro apps.As for the Desktop Ui well.. that's unredeemable.. the massive disgusting border around every window and every-time I close a window I can see how they didn't bother to line up the buttons good at all.. 1 pixel space on the top and what 8-10 on the right WTF!How can the same company that designed the UI for xbox 360 be the same company that designed win 8.. Xbox pretty.. windows 8 desktop plastic toy.Anyway here is hoping star-dock comes out with a new version of there ui software and wish me luck as I try windows 8 again.[/citation]
you just have a crap computer and dont know how to find the problem
you just have a crap computer and dont know how to find the problem
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1) if 7 is so great then its sister product VISTA is to thank for that - 99% the same code, looks the same (for the exception of a colour scheme) - go figure that, you bag vista you bag 7 the same
2) start menu/desktop is a 18 year old design, about time it died i mean what is the point in having desktop icons AND start menu icons, microsoft was smart by grouping them together much more efficent
3) to have an OS that looks and works 99% the same on a tablet AND a desktop/laptop -- something Apple and Google/Android CANNOT do
4) regardless if you hate 8, your going to have to live with it, this forum is just filled with haters, every new OS release your all back here, XP was hated in the day and now everyone doesnt want to part from that dinosaur
As much as you hate it your opinions mean the square root of jack, people still buy and love 8 your hate means nothing, im using it right now, my partner is using it on here ASUS RT tablet, i use it at work everywhere, it works so well.
Good luck haters, hate away.
2) start menu/desktop is a 18 year old design, about time it died i mean what is the point in having desktop icons AND start menu icons, microsoft was smart by grouping them together much more efficent
3) to have an OS that looks and works 99% the same on a tablet AND a desktop/laptop -- something Apple and Google/Android CANNOT do
4) regardless if you hate 8, your going to have to live with it, this forum is just filled with haters, every new OS release your all back here, XP was hated in the day and now everyone doesnt want to part from that dinosaur
As much as you hate it your opinions mean the square root of jack, people still buy and love 8 your hate means nothing, im using it right now, my partner is using it on here ASUS RT tablet, i use it at work everywhere, it works so well.
Good luck haters, hate away.
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[citation][nom]someguynamedmatt[/nom]best course of action now is to do everything possible to port everything you can from Windows to Linux; think about it... if Linux could run Windows applications alongside a DirectX substitute of some sort, there'd be no reason to even think about switching to MS's glorified phone OS.[/citation]
I'm about done with Win8 testing on a notebook, I'll soon put LinuxMINT on it and use it to learn how to use it. Then over time, I'll start my migration off of Microsoft.
Metro IS NOT WINDOWS... The "Windows" name should be called "Flatty"... its so Windows 1.0. Ugly, flat.
Really, why bother with Windows? If you are someone who knows or wants to get into the guts of a computer, Linux is the way to go. You have access to everything. Since MS wan't to go FULL RETARD for an operating system... then why bother? Games? MS doesn't support games for PC. HALO3? Nope. So the DX11 business is useless. Get a console... I'll go PS4... screw Microsoft.
The tiles are useless... if you are in "desktop mode" all the time, then why bother? The "nobody used the start menu" is plain stupid. Then why use a Start Screen? the START Button is no hidden into a tiny dot. It there, but its not... what stupid shit?! Same thing for Aero Peak. The visual clues are supposed to be there for a reason. Why would most people want to use an OS that was designed by IDIOTS?
hence, I didn't go for the $40 upgrades... I'm still buying Win7 when I can.
I talked to two sales guys at a major PC chain store. Here is the skinny:
1 - For PC builders, Win8 is rarely touched.
2 - Some customers are trying/are returning computers. (If they wait too long, no return)
3 - They have Win8 tablets.... NOBODY IS BUYING THEM.
4 - Win8Phones are doing 4x better than WP7... but that is nothing. Apple sells more in a day than MS in a month.
So Win8 from all markets is a flaming pile of losing crap.
I'm about done with Win8 testing on a notebook, I'll soon put LinuxMINT on it and use it to learn how to use it. Then over time, I'll start my migration off of Microsoft.
Metro IS NOT WINDOWS... The "Windows" name should be called "Flatty"... its so Windows 1.0. Ugly, flat.
Really, why bother with Windows? If you are someone who knows or wants to get into the guts of a computer, Linux is the way to go. You have access to everything. Since MS wan't to go FULL RETARD for an operating system... then why bother? Games? MS doesn't support games for PC. HALO3? Nope. So the DX11 business is useless. Get a console... I'll go PS4... screw Microsoft.
The tiles are useless... if you are in "desktop mode" all the time, then why bother? The "nobody used the start menu" is plain stupid. Then why use a Start Screen? the START Button is no hidden into a tiny dot. It there, but its not... what stupid shit?! Same thing for Aero Peak. The visual clues are supposed to be there for a reason. Why would most people want to use an OS that was designed by IDIOTS?
hence, I didn't go for the $40 upgrades... I'm still buying Win7 when I can.
I talked to two sales guys at a major PC chain store. Here is the skinny:
1 - For PC builders, Win8 is rarely touched.
2 - Some customers are trying/are returning computers. (If they wait too long, no return)
3 - They have Win8 tablets.... NOBODY IS BUYING THEM.
4 - Win8Phones are doing 4x better than WP7... but that is nothing. Apple sells more in a day than MS in a month.
So Win8 from all markets is a flaming pile of losing crap.
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Looks like it will be Linux after win 7.
microsoft is locking down windows, giving itself the 'right' to delete software from users computers at its own perogative... and windows 8 is a total abortion
microsoft is locking down windows, giving itself the 'right' to delete software from users computers at its own perogative... and windows 8 is a total abortion
[citation][nom]A Bad Day[/nom]I don't use Linux because I don't feel like dealing with compatibility issues.[/citation]
The compatibility reason and the user friendliness is why I use GNU/Linux, but much depends on what you are using your OS for. People who uses their computer only for e-mail and surfing, Linux would be a better option, for those who uses their computer for gaming, they still will have an advantage to use a microsoft OS, those who are into professional publishing OSX would be the best option.
If just looking at the compatibility part, Linux comes with a wast more drivers for hardware than what microsoft does include in their installations, sure there are times when there are Linux drivers missing for new hardware, but that's true for microsoft's OS:es too, how many times haven't you had to go to a 3rd party site and download your driver to make your X-hardware to work?
[citation][nom]A Bad Day[/nom]And the business market share is very, very large. There's a reason why there are "Professional" and "Server" Windows editions.[/citation]
In the business world, microsoft is one of the small players and there are reasons for that, first you need to buy another type of license to get another type of crippled version of the OS, the instability of the OS and sometimes even incompatibility with server hardware. Keep in mind in this section GNU/Linux has a 60% market share. Today Linux is the most used operating system, more used than mcirsoft's operating systems together, as you can run Linux on almost every hardware you find out there from routers, dishwashers, TV-sets, cellphones to super computers. The only market section where microsoft dominates is desktop and with ms-window-8 I guess Apple will take a huge step closer and have the possibility to take over the crown (if thye play the game correctly).
The compatibility reason and the user friendliness is why I use GNU/Linux, but much depends on what you are using your OS for. People who uses their computer only for e-mail and surfing, Linux would be a better option, for those who uses their computer for gaming, they still will have an advantage to use a microsoft OS, those who are into professional publishing OSX would be the best option.
If just looking at the compatibility part, Linux comes with a wast more drivers for hardware than what microsoft does include in their installations, sure there are times when there are Linux drivers missing for new hardware, but that's true for microsoft's OS:es too, how many times haven't you had to go to a 3rd party site and download your driver to make your X-hardware to work?
[citation][nom]A Bad Day[/nom]And the business market share is very, very large. There's a reason why there are "Professional" and "Server" Windows editions.[/citation]
In the business world, microsoft is one of the small players and there are reasons for that, first you need to buy another type of license to get another type of crippled version of the OS, the instability of the OS and sometimes even incompatibility with server hardware. Keep in mind in this section GNU/Linux has a 60% market share. Today Linux is the most used operating system, more used than mcirsoft's operating systems together, as you can run Linux on almost every hardware you find out there from routers, dishwashers, TV-sets, cellphones to super computers. The only market section where microsoft dominates is desktop and with ms-window-8 I guess Apple will take a huge step closer and have the possibility to take over the crown (if thye play the game correctly).
[citation][nom]ultameca[/nom]How can the same company that designed the UI for xbox 360 be the same company that designed win 8.. Xbox pretty.. windows 8 desktop plastic toy.Anyway here is hoping star-dock comes out with a new version of there ui software and wish me luck as I try windows 8 again.[/citation]
You shouldn't look at microsoft as one company, they have departments which are always in fear that they will be closed down if another department comes out with a similar product or a better product than they do, so you don't share your resources or your know-how with the others, that's why applications may look and work differently from the OS, just see at ms-windows-7 vs ms-office and as microsoft has used west coast to help with designing the touch UI and among others the poor design of Lumix 600 up to Lumia 800.
There are many options out there which are far better, I hope you have the guts to try something better.
You shouldn't look at microsoft as one company, they have departments which are always in fear that they will be closed down if another department comes out with a similar product or a better product than they do, so you don't share your resources or your know-how with the others, that's why applications may look and work differently from the OS, just see at ms-windows-7 vs ms-office and as microsoft has used west coast to help with designing the touch UI and among others the poor design of Lumix 600 up to Lumia 800.
There are many options out there which are far better, I hope you have the guts to try something better.
[citation][nom]A Bad Day[/nom]Because the computer is too slow to handle the default mode?[/citation]What computer in 2012/2013 is too slow to run Windows XP in classic mode? Who still uses a Pentium 2? Why hasn't your dinosaur died yet?
I purchased 4GB memory for the equivalent of 16 US$. Why do people still sit with 512MB memory?
[citation][nom]_TuxUser_[/nom]*snip*[/citation]I was agreeing with everything you said until you mentioned "publishing, OSX, and best" in one sentence.
I purchased 4GB memory for the equivalent of 16 US$. Why do people still sit with 512MB memory?
[citation][nom]_TuxUser_[/nom]*snip*[/citation]I was agreeing with everything you said until you mentioned "publishing, OSX, and best" in one sentence.
[citation][nom]belardo[/nom]Win8Phones are doing 4x better than WP7... but that is nothing. Apple sells more in a day than MS in a month.So Win8 from all markets is a flaming pile of losing crap.[/citation]
WP7 did have a market share for a short wile of 2.9%, today WP8 + WP7 has a market share of 1.3%, so no the WP8 don't sell better than WP7 did. There is no operator who wants to sell WP, there is no cell phone manufacturer who has made profit making WP (or WM), today Nokia gets a 48% loss for each unit they ship out. Few people ask for a WP (I know there are those of your zealots who have other opinions, but guess what, it's only the handful of you who wants a WP). I wouldn't be surprised if microsoft announces later this year that they will discontinue WP as Bada (soon replaced with Tizen), Balckberry are both larger and more popular mobile operating systems and WP can't even compete with those two.
WP7 did have a market share for a short wile of 2.9%, today WP8 + WP7 has a market share of 1.3%, so no the WP8 don't sell better than WP7 did. There is no operator who wants to sell WP, there is no cell phone manufacturer who has made profit making WP (or WM), today Nokia gets a 48% loss for each unit they ship out. Few people ask for a WP (I know there are those of your zealots who have other opinions, but guess what, it's only the handful of you who wants a WP). I wouldn't be surprised if microsoft announces later this year that they will discontinue WP as Bada (soon replaced with Tizen), Balckberry are both larger and more popular mobile operating systems and WP can't even compete with those two.
I think this may be linux's time, it already dominates the mobile market and I imagine that this will only increase linux's usage, Ubuntu has become very easy to use and only requires a small amount of prior knowledge to get logged in and do what you want to do, which for most, would be firefox and libreoffice, both pre-installed
WOW resizable tiles!!!! zomgwtfbestillmybeatingheart!! that is like, SO revolutionary for desktops. it will skyrocket windows sales to stratosphere!
i know of another company that adopted yearly upgrade cycle. amd.
meanwhile in real life, arm penetrates from microservers to others, intel and google become new besties, gaming market earns the highest amount of revenue from casual gaming (and consoles) which is dominated by ios and android, shills downvote me and so on.
kthxbai ms.
p.s. okay.. i might be wrong about intel and google mating. 😗
i know of another company that adopted yearly upgrade cycle. amd.
meanwhile in real life, arm penetrates from microservers to others, intel and google become new besties, gaming market earns the highest amount of revenue from casual gaming (and consoles) which is dominated by ios and android, shills downvote me and so on.
kthxbai ms.
p.s. okay.. i might be wrong about intel and google mating. 😗
Now, now Microsoft! steamrolling a touch/tablet/store front end onto all consumer/business desktop users! wtf! That's not very smart, isn't it? We've told you many times what to do - that this feature should, AT THE MOST, be a user activated option.....you know...opt in/out? Why the hell do you chose to piss off so many of your loyal customers? We all make mistakes - be they short term or not!! Come on...sort out this mess.
Ok, what you goin to do next - reduce W7 support lifespan?
Ok, what you goin to do next - reduce W7 support lifespan?
Ms Listen to the people, Give us the option this time yourselves to be able to choose the style of the desktop layout we wish to work with. Life is about the ability for each person to have the freedom to make a choice on there own preferences, taste, and what they feel comfortable with.
Half of the sales that were made of windows 8 were through per configured laptops and towers, But how many of you have asked the question of how many of the users after the sale decided to wipe the system and revert to windows 7. simply because they were at more ease, and in there case more of a productive experience. I would of said a hell of lot. Like it or not Ms was at fault for this.
In the same respect that hurt the single sales of the OS system its self.
Forcing someone to do something rarely produces a positive attitude, more of a case of loathing. Because we all like to have an option to simply say Yes or NO. One of the the things Ms lost out on by not factoring it in.
Half of the sales that were made of windows 8 were through per configured laptops and towers, But how many of you have asked the question of how many of the users after the sale decided to wipe the system and revert to windows 7. simply because they were at more ease, and in there case more of a productive experience. I would of said a hell of lot. Like it or not Ms was at fault for this.
In the same respect that hurt the single sales of the OS system its self.
Forcing someone to do something rarely produces a positive attitude, more of a case of loathing. Because we all like to have an option to simply say Yes or NO. One of the the things Ms lost out on by not factoring it in.
[citation][nom]NewbieTechGodII[/nom]Remember first that Metro Win8 is a touch-first UI. If you want to cram shit on the screen, use the desktop.Next, Many of the tiles can be made smaller or larger, but as I said, I think that applies ONLY to either the default apps or what was purchased from the Store.You can also REMOVE tiles on the Start screen by right-clicking on a selection and then choose unpin from start screen. Yes it is kinda goofy that there are those columns, but it's nothing to lose sleep over.You're wanting a clock or other such 4-1-1 in lieu of the word Start is your opinion and really has nothing to do with anything. I want porn to be my Start screen background.You do know that you can group tiles into custom column groups, right?Honestly if the Metro Start screen pisses you off so much, why are you spending so much time on it? I've had Win8 RTM on my machine for about a month now (not to mention the time I had the CP and RP versions), and I've hardly spent any time in Metro. My Start screen is a mess, but at least I know how to clean it up.[/citation]do u know that the tiles even the smaller version are still very BIG? u seems to ignore my point that the gap on 4 edges of the screen. Those area could have been put as tiles. Columns are plenty to lose. if u got 6 rows, but 14 apps, those extra 2 apps will fill up 2 columns, everything below it is left empty.
Start screen is my new startmenu if I didnt spend time on it how would I launch my App? put all icons on desktop? Metro UI is a good concept, but is poorly optimize for desktop thats why people are complaining it.
If u want a good example on how a better tiles like, look at windows phone 8. It filled up the whole screen and use up as much screen area to display everything it could. This is what the desktop version should be.
Start screen is my new startmenu if I didnt spend time on it how would I launch my App? put all icons on desktop? Metro UI is a good concept, but is poorly optimize for desktop thats why people are complaining it.
If u want a good example on how a better tiles like, look at windows phone 8. It filled up the whole screen and use up as much screen area to display everything it could. This is what the desktop version should be.
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[citation][nom]Pherule[/nom]What computer in 2012/2013 is too slow to run Windows XP in classic mode? Who still uses a Pentium 2? Why hasn't your dinosaur died yet?I purchased 4GB memory for the equivalent of 16 US$. Why do people still sit with 512MB memory?I was agreeing with everything you said until you mentioned "publishing, OSX, and best" in one sentence.[/citation]
What about computers in 2002? What about motherboards that don't support more than 512 MB of RAM?
What about computers in 2002? What about motherboards that don't support more than 512 MB of RAM?
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[citation][nom]jdwii[/nom]How is windows 98 much different from windows xp in terms of the UI? Not to mention you could put it in classic mode? So your statement is quite useless.[/citation]
It's not that much different, just like Windows 8 isn't that much different then 7. I'm only relaying the sorts of comments people were making about XP around that time, I didn't say any of it made sense.
It's not that much different, just like Windows 8 isn't that much different then 7. I'm only relaying the sorts of comments people were making about XP around that time, I didn't say any of it made sense.
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