Samsung Exec Blames Windows 8 for Declining PC Market

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As ho-hum as Windows 8 is as compared to its predecessor I don't think the common user dislikes it enough to account for the declining PC market. There are not just so many other devices that can do things that only a PC used to be able to do, so a lot of folks don't need a full-fledged computer anymore. That seems so obvious that it almost feels patronizing to have to say.
 
Apple changed the home user paradigm; we will all just have to adapt to what SF writers have envisioned for years.... Progress; dystopian or otherwise.
 
So basically the entire PC industry is going down because of a START button. I simply hate Windows 8 because it is trying to be a touch based OS but I don't want to touch my PC/laptop. We have a separate category for them and it is called Tablets.

Microsoft please remove your head from your a** and just give the START button back.
 
[citation][nom]halcyon[/nom]As ho-hum as Windows 8 is as compared to its predecessor I don't think the common user dislikes it enough to account for the declining PC market. There are not just so many other devices that can do things that only a PC used to be able to do, so a lot of folks don't need a full-fledged computer anymore. That seems so obvious that it almost feels patronizing to have to say.[/citation]

Other than that I think Win8 is a fine upgrade, i agree. Desktops and laptops have gotten a lot of competition lately. People that need a desktop today will still buy one... Win8 or not.
 
[citation][nom]corbeau[/nom]Right now in order to maximize your dollar you're best off buying a $400 laptop and swapping out the HDD for an SSD, why not sell a laptop for $600 with say a 120gb SSD and give people a reason to upgrade?[/citation]

And I did just that. Bought a 17.3" HP Pavilion g7 on sale for $399 at Fry's, then dropped a $160 256GB Samsung 830 SSD from NewEgg in it (if you missed that deal, you really missed out) and installed a spare OEM copy of Win7. All I need to do now is wipe out the factory 500GB hard drive with all that crap and stick it in the optical drive slot for storage.
 
The PC is a slowing market, but Windows 8 didn't help things.
People who need a PC don't need Metro.
People who don't need a PC are not going to go with Windows anyway.
So Microsoft managed to screw up the desktop Windows experience while failing to gain any traction in the mobile market.
Good job, Ballmer.

TOM'S - FIX YOUR STUPID SITE. IT'S VERY HARD TO LOG IN USING CHROME BROWSER ON JELLY BEAN.
 
I upgraded my Asus K55N Win8 laptop memory to 8GB using Samsung mem.
I wanted to go into setup, but there was an adventure ahead.
The F keys did not work, searching the WEB turned up conflicting info on which F key should work.
The manual did not even cover setup F key.
Finally discovered I had to use the UGH charm bar to ask Win8 for permission to go into setup.
OK, so what if Win8 does not start, am I SOL?

I use Classic Shell.
I don't like the UI because of all the bandwidth it uses updating tiles with useless info, This must be an issue for business settings. I see constant disk activity with Win8 most of which I attribute to the UI.
I dislike the new Task Mgr.
I dislike 7 and 8 constantly tracking performance, constantly tracking the user experience, tracking what apps I use and have installed, all which I am sure consume resources.
Win8 updates have been large and frequent and time consuming.
Win8 gets poor marks for ease of use.
I finally turned off all that screen dimming and permission to proceed crap. Often the damn permission box will not be on top so you think an install is running only to discover the OS waiting.
Just a small sample.
 
I like PCs simply because I can customize it's hardware (and price) to my liking. Unlike smartphones, tablets, and laptops where you're pretty much stuck with what the vendor decides to put in there.

PC4LIFE
 
In other news..
A samsung exec finally realized what most consumers have been saying since the first previews of 'Metro'.

Imagine what the tech world would be like if exec's actually listened instead of forcing their 'visions' down our throats.
 
We use PCs at work. Everyone has a PC. I don't see people using a smaller device anytime in the future.

We still use Office 2007 too. I made a request to upgrade it to Office '2010' and the IT guys said that it was out of their budget for the limited increase of functionality.

There you go.
 
What I am saying is that, a new OS was REQUIRED after XP. Vista was a major failure, so let's not count it among our discussion. The time and functionality difference between XP and Win7 was significant. Win7 was an awesome upgrade over XP.

Not that Metro is bad. It just isn't required right now and it's interface isn't exactly 'professional'.
 
I remember when people used to make fun of the iPad for being a large iPod Touch. Then they proceeded to demolish not only netbooks, but then also the notebook market.

Of course, then Samsung came along and exposed how pathetic the iPad was compared to what it could be if made by good companies rather than by pathetic and fruity evil company with low technology. Samsung simply crushes the old guard. bye bye old guard. Can't wait to see what Samsung invents next.
 
[citation][nom]halcyon[/nom]As ho-hum as Windows 8 is as compared to its predecessor I don't think the common user dislikes it enough to account for the declining PC market. There are not just so many other devices that can do things that only a PC used to be able to do, so a lot of folks don't need a full-fledged computer anymore. That seems so obvious that it almost feels patronizing to have to say.[/citation]
already gave plenty of examples in my last 2 posts you partially quoted.

So...
Lets just say the automotive companies stop putting in steering wheels and switch to an electronically controlled joystick system instead because they feel it allows for better overall control. In order to force the change all used cars are scrapped, replacement parts are no longer being made, and user to user transfer becomes illegal.
To defend themselves (the manufacturers), they start blaming the dealers because no one can stand the new interface without practically relearning everything they ever knew about cars.
The younger people that have been playing video games with a joystick for years adapt quickly, and those that can, even though they no longer get the same functionality, start blaming the older people, calling them stupid, because they are unable to comprehend that there is something the older users cannot do which they themselves can.
Who's to blame?

Much the same as Windows 8 goes, its so radically different and so many key features are hidden its like learning a brand new OS all over again. I'm not talking little changes here you can adapt to, its an entirely new experience.
If I've been using Windows since 3.1, I SHOULD be able to adapt with a minimal transition, NOT have to Google how to do something simple or watch a Youtube instructional video.
THAT is my problem.

Yes, I've used it, I've learned it to fix it, and I flat out don't like it.
If you like it, good for you, but that in no way shape or form makes it a usable desktop OS for the rest of the world.
 
Comparing the release of Win7 to Win8 isn't valid. The PC market is 'post desktop' now. I think Microsoft is sacrificing a few pawns here to get a checkmate later when the hardware catches up. Esp stuff like the Perceptive Pixel screens. http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2013/03/08/microsofts-perceptive-pixel-premise-the-future-of-touch-computing-isnt-stuck-in-your-pocket/
 
This CEO is an idiot. Anyone who draws the conclusion that the PC market will be phased out anytime soon is just foolish. I cannot expect that the PC market will drop in any real sense until tablets have similar capabilities, parts can be swapped in and out, and third party apps can take the place of all the current PC programs we run now.

Long term, yes it is possible if not inevitable that the typical desktop PC will be replaced by something smaller, however many people will want to do the same things with their new "PC" that they do with their current PC. That said tablets will NOT replace PC's for quite a few years, if not a decade or more. That is assuming tablets ARE the form factor that replaces PC's.

Other people have pointed out that the PC market is a mature market and that is precisely the point. Tablets are a market that is rapidly maturing itself with prices dropping as one often sees in a mature market. Just to point at the different trajectories of the two form factors and not realize the reasons behind the different rates of adoption between a form factor that is at least twenty years old, and one that is about five years old, is to do a very sloppy analysis.

So, if I was above that person in the Samsung chain of command, I would fire that fool....
 
last part.... I run Windows 8. It's fine. I am so bored of all the people whining about it.

It's too bad whining is not counted in the GNP, if so we'd all be freaking RICH....

If you don't like Metro, just click on the little tile that states "Desktop" and knock yourself out. I mean that literally. Please knock yourself out.....
 
Given the choice I'd choose Windows 7 as opposed to Windows 8...easily. ...but one thing is for certain, change is inevitable and not all change is good. Windows 8 proves this.
 
IT flat out refuses to install Windows 8 on any box at work. Even our President and VP doesn't want Windows 8. The company I work for has over 1.000 employees.
 
[citation][nom]jorj_x_mckie[/nom]Comparing the release of Win7 to Win8 isn't valid. The PC market is 'post desktop' now. /[/citation]
Plain negationism i see here.
And if W8 is a post desktop system, if all this marketing bs makes sense, it would mean it has a wider target user base and should have sold twice what Seven sold, not half what Vista sold.
It did not, so the maketing post desktop mantra revealed to be based on flawed assumptions. Assumptions MS competitors are figuring better.
 
MOADK, windows 8, The Mother of all deal killers, If It's windows 8 it's the PC fate, to sit on shelf and gather dust! Give users a PCs with downgrade installers, so they can upgrade by downgrading away from windows 8! Stop the METRO slump!
 
The Metro interface looks just like a a cash register at Mickey-Ds little squares and rectangles, windows 8 is for people who utter this phrase most often at their place of work "would You Like Fries with That?" Windows 7 is and OS, windows 8 turns a productive PC into a sales kiosk! Yes M$ wantsto foce everyone to stroll through their dollar store bi-modal madness shop of unproductive horrors!
 
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