Samsung Galaxy S4 Said to Contain Eight Cores

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Apple has 2 big cores running at low hz with a big gpu, and intel has done the same recently razr i (dont know about the gpu part), a lot of apps only use 1 or 2 cores. If i see a crack in ARM its exactly that.
 
[citation][nom]techcurious[/nom]You are comparing Zak to a whole news channel.. that is flawed.. the equivalent of "a financial channel" is Tomshardware's website as a whole.. not just one "reporter"!What Zak could have and should have done was combine his two related stories into one Post, rather than having us witness his Article Diarrhea! (two postings on rumors about S4's upcoming CPU specs just 1 hour apart?? Despite his already crappy street cred around here, this is a new low)[/citation]

I understand your point, but from how I see how Tom's Hardware works they do a single source per article and what he did was consistent with this.

Plus, I don't know the times at which he was aware of each article for me to concretely say they should have been in one.
 
[citation][nom]otacon72[/nom]8 cores? absolutely ridiculous. Apple 2-core A6 will run circles around it.[/citation]

It helps in marketing. You have cameras that just put more and more MP not because it will produce better pictures but it will help to sell more.

Just like there's laptops with crappy 5400 RPM harddrives but by putting larger capacity it helps with sales.
 
[citation][nom]Cats_Paw[/nom]Somehow i feel the main problem of phones and tablets is the ram not the amount of cores.[/citation]
It's both, and the devs need to make sure their apps utilize all cores.
 
[citation][nom]nieur[/nom]what zak?consecutive 2 articles contradicting each other[/citation]
[citation][nom]mayankleoboy1[/nom]TROLOLOL two consecutive articles with contradictory information...Zak should go back to apple news reporting[/citation]
The Zak haters seem very willing to show their ignorance. Tom's is a hardware site where they present information from a wide range of sources and gather them in one place. Zak Islam has in no way put forward an opinion on any of this. What he has done is to present both rumors, rumors based on articles from other sources and is letting the reader take from it what they may. But instead of discussing why there seems to be 2 different stories out about the S4 CPU, the Zak haters have to ignorantly bash on Zak as if he is contradicting himself.

And no, Zak Islam is not contradicting himself. He would only be contradictory is he was the source of both these stories, which he is not. Writing up an article based on other sources, something ALL Tom's writers do, can not be contradictory. He is merely passing along information from other sources and putting them in one place which is his job.
 
[citation][nom]techcurious[/nom]You are comparing Zak to a whole news channel.. that is flawed.. the equivalent of "a financial channel" is Tomshardware's website as a whole.. not just one "reporter"!What Zak could have and should have done was combine his two related stories into one Post, rather than having us witness his Article Diarrhea! (two postings on rumors about S4's upcoming CPU specs just 1 hour apart?? Despite his already crappy street cred around here, this is a new low)[/citation]
No, it's not a new low, it's not a low at all. He is doing his job. If he were to combine the article, he would have to editorialize about the discrepency or people like you would accuse him of contradicting himself in one article. What he has done has given one article per source which is the norm for ALL of Tom's articles.

It's amazing all this Zak hate. He constantly is accused of being an Apple fanboy in articles that seem to have a pro Apple bent (which the Zak haters fail to realize is from another source, not from Zak himself) and yet in the many articles which put Apple in a negative light, people seem oblivious Zak was the one to put out the article.
 
[citation][nom]JOSHSKORN[/nom]It's both, and the devs need to make sure their apps utilize all cores.[/citation]
[citation][nom]Cats_Paw[/nom]Somehow i feel the main problem of phones and tablets is the ram not the amount of cores.[/citation]
It's neither the RAM or the CPU, it's poor coding of so many apps that seem to eat up memory.

What is needed is for app developers to tighten their code so we don't need more RAM. Battery life took a major hit when we went from multimedia phones which could last several days on a charge for even heavy users, to smartphones which need to be charged every day for just moderate use. Adding in more RAM, more CPU cores and such just make the battery drain much faster and really just mask the real problem.
 
Hell, if they are going to give a smartPHONE an 8-core processor, yough might as well slap in 16GB of RAM and a 20MP camera. Also with a 2560 x 1600 screen resolution.
 
[citation][nom]XchaosXhazeX[/nom]Sounds horrible I'm an S3 owner... I love everything about Samsung, they are my favourite brand alongside BMW. Why must they murder the phone's day to day tasks with slower performance than the phone is capable of , the main use of the phone is day-to-day tasks, and the gaming and performance are the extra, but now the day to day tasks get to be slower than the S3, for better app performance ? Sigh[/citation]
Me thinks you do not understand how this works...
If you have a display running something... like say a video. That video has a well defined frame rate, resolution, bit depth, etc, and only needs a finite amount of resources to properly display it. So if you are running said video on an A15 core you would be sucking down some 3-4W (complete guess by the way... but you get the idea), compared to running the exact same video on an A7 while only using 1-2W. That is potentially 4x the battery life, while displaying the EXACT same thing. Same goes for the interface animations, running phone calls, etc.
The nice thing (if this rumor is to be believed) is that when you get a large load... like say, a game, then you have 4 high power cores to switch to, and give you what you need (and wreak havoc on your battery at that point).

It's a really good idea... just not sure how the logistics of switching between 2 CPUs would work... but I am sure they are a bit smarter than I am 😛
 
[citation][nom]jn77[/nom]we all have to realize, that while any device ( your computer ) or your mobile phone benefit from more cores because more cores operating at lower frequencies lower power consumption. It is not "Why do I need 8 cores........." Anti virus programs eat up so much bandwidth running in the background that if you had 1 core you would have to shut the virus protection off to be able to surf the web without the connection being flaky.I would not mind a phone with 16 cores, 8gb ram, and 3 Micro SD slots......... and a battery with 4 times the life mine has now.It will happen even if you want to complain about it now. Its just a matter of when. The Micro SD XCHC spec with Xfat file system support will take memory cards from 64gb to 2TB on mobile devices...... I am waiting for Sandisk to release a 2TB memory card for my Galaxy S3..... I give it 24 months.We should see 128 and 256gb micro memory cards hit the market in less than 5 months from now.[/citation]

That would be something!
 
A dual-core Krait or Exynos 5 will be plenty of power for a phone, I think more than this is overkill. My current phone has a dual-core Qualcomm S3 @ 1.5GHz and it runs great.
 
Its not technically an eight core but dual quadcores in big.LITTLE config. Either high performance quad A15s will be enabled or 4 A7s for power efficiency. It is a little like the 4+1 (4 High-performance+1 low-power cores) config in NVidia's Tegra2. So the two articles are not contradictory and some idiots should stop flagging the author as a troller.
 
I'm willing to bet this will never come to fruition. A phone will not need more than 4 cores. What does that accomplish? Nothing. How much multitasking do people do with a little phone screen? Let's say you even use the DLNA to put the work up on a TV screen, you still aren't going to accomplish anything useful with 8 processing cores.

For graphics, I can understand, but not for main processors on a phone. Not to mention even in the best practice this will consume more power than simply throttling the powerful A15 cores individually like the Snapdragon S4 processor does.

Right now the best thing is to make these processors become more energy efficient so these phones last longer than 4-6 hours. I remember reading here on Tom's that the SG S3 has one of the worst battery lives of modern smart phones. I don't think doubling the amount of cores will help resolve this.
 
[citation][nom]JOSHSKORN[/nom]Can I get a desktop with an Intel 8 core, first, please?[/citation]

who said you cant?

we do have 8 cores 16 threads 3.1G cpu Socket 2011 running on X79 chipset already

the Intel Xeon E5-2687W works on any X79 motherboard.

 
[citation][nom]Uberragen21[/nom]I'm willing to bet this will never come to fruition. A phone will not need more than 4 cores. What does that accomplish? Nothing. How much multitasking do people do with a little phone screen? Let's say you even use the DLNA to put the work up on a TV screen, you still aren't going to accomplish anything useful with 8 processing cores. For graphics, I can understand, but not for main processors on a phone. Not to mention even in the best practice this will consume more power than simply throttling the powerful A15 cores individually like the Snapdragon S4 processor does. Right now the best thing is to make these processors become more energy efficient so these phones last longer than 4-6 hours. I remember reading here on Tom's that the SG S3 has one of the worst battery lives of modern smart phones. I don't think doubling the amount of cores will help resolve this.[/citation]

actually it does. you missed the whole subject here !

the 8 cores are not ALL same power and speed.

they are 4 cores A15 which needs power , and 4 cores slower cpu A7 , which needs lower power.

they will switch on and off , giving you more battery life ... that is NO WASTED POWER. if the task doesnt need the CPU POWER it will use the lower power cores

this is NOT 8 cores same CPU !! this is 4+4
 
In reality, this will probably still be a quad-core CPU since most likely only 4 cores will be accessible at any point in time - just like Tegra 3 only has 4 cores available to running code. E.g. both rumors do not contradict each other.
 
The Zit / pimple popping out at the back of the phone, shaped like a camera lens is something really ugly in any smart device, including this one. It does not matter how high-tech the device might be, if it is ugly only nerds will by it. Still Samsung, HTC, Nokia and other have not yet figure it out why iphone wiped there asses since ~5 years back.
Maybe they should focus on design and not how many cores a phone will have. After all, today almost all apps / programs are optimized to run on one single core. And today not all programmers know how to code parallel programming to utilize all the cores in the hardware.
 
My galaxy note 1 is still kicking. though not that optimize In my opinion still seeing some lag and random crashes. hope they's focus more on Android optimization.
 
Who really knows if the thing will actually have 8 cores, if it does and can have acceptable battery life ok cool. All the same it would probably be the international model and us in the US would still be stuck with some BS dual core... Why is it that the global phone market punishes the US with downgraded devices ?
 
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