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thank god i delayed to buy an SB on friday for next week....
im looking to replace my 4 years old system with an i5 2500
phew....
im looking to replace my 4 years old system with an i5 2500
phew....
Hi, so i just want confirm.... its only the 3.0 ports?
so i can use my old sata HD on the lets say 2 6.0 ports for the HDs so avoid the risk?
seriosly i cannot wait that long for the new rev. hoping the fault are falling in prize. since ireally want new rig for shogun 2 total war 15.marts....
so i can use my old sata HD on the lets say 2 6.0 ports for the HDs so avoid the risk?
seriosly i cannot wait that long for the new rev. hoping the fault are falling in prize. since ireally want new rig for shogun 2 total war 15.marts....
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[citation][nom]wiinippongamer[/nom]The perfect moment for AMD to bring their bulldozer[/citation]
Yes, a lot of people have been saying this. Now would be the perfect time for AMD to bust out a new high performance architecture. Sorry to kill the excitement, but there's a problem, Bulldozer's been delayed... again. I believe the latest update was H2 2011, and it doesn't get anymore specific then that.
Yes, a lot of people have been saying this. Now would be the perfect time for AMD to bust out a new high performance architecture. Sorry to kill the excitement, but there's a problem, Bulldozer's been delayed... again. I believe the latest update was H2 2011, and it doesn't get anymore specific then that.
SB works very well at this point for me with an ASUS P7 motherboard and a 2600K. This bug will start to affect me or other users in a year or so and by then I expect to have a clear idea on returns with Intel and ASUS. Anyway I will be backing up my system and files. But SB 2600K rockkss!!!
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Just wondering - have you gotten any "official" emails yet from ASUS about your modo (if you registered it)? (I know it was only reported today - but some might be trying to get ahead of the game)
Or let us know in the coming weeks if you get anything in snail mail - so we can gauge how the mobo manufacturers are handling it.
Sucks for SSD owners, but I doubt I'll ever notice a difference on my slow spinning platter based drives 😛
If I hadn't yet built my computer I would most likely just wait for LGA2011. Switch to AMD? Pfft, yea right! I'll keep my GTX 580 SLI compatibility, thank you!
If I hadn't yet built my computer I would most likely just wait for LGA2011. Switch to AMD? Pfft, yea right! I'll keep my GTX 580 SLI compatibility, thank you!
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[citation][nom]aaron88_7[/nom]I'll keep my GTX 580 SLI compatibility, thank you![/citation]
AMD has motherboards that support SLI, it just sucks how there's no support for both xfire and sli on the same motherboard, that's all changing with Bulldozer but it's very late compared to Intel..
AMD has motherboards that support SLI, it just sucks how there's no support for both xfire and sli on the same motherboard, that's all changing with Bulldozer but it's very late compared to Intel..
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[citation][nom]coldmast[/nom]Sarcasm? Troll Bait? This is not funny for someone (myself) who just dropped over a Grand on a new system.[/citation]
I just want to point out that the only issue is the motherboard. Not the CPU, GPU, RAM, PSU, HDD, Optical drives, or anything else. So really, while it's a big deal for Intel, who now has to pay for replacements, the consumer won't have to worry. And all your data WILL be safe, we're talking throughput degradation over time here. After all, in the grand scheme of things, 1 grand is not that much for a PC. Hell, mine is i7 980X based, and ran me over 5.
I just want to point out that the only issue is the motherboard. Not the CPU, GPU, RAM, PSU, HDD, Optical drives, or anything else. So really, while it's a big deal for Intel, who now has to pay for replacements, the consumer won't have to worry. And all your data WILL be safe, we're talking throughput degradation over time here. After all, in the grand scheme of things, 1 grand is not that much for a PC. Hell, mine is i7 980X based, and ran me over 5.
[citation][nom]rpmrush[/nom]It only bugs 5% of chipsets! Stop freaking out. Buy if your ready. Performance degradation over time. It's not gonna blow up. And it's throuput performance at that. A cheap sata card will circumvent it if your one of the small %. NO BIG DEAL! Hell just buy a 6G/s (Sata 3) hard drive if your that worried.[/citation]
There might be bigger problem than what officially told. Nothing stops it from setting fire or corrupting important data while processing it. I would say it is a very big deal. This is not like worn wheel bearing that can handle load until next season. And it was unclear what 5% are they talking about without setting up reference frame.
There might be bigger problem than what officially told. Nothing stops it from setting fire or corrupting important data while processing it. I would say it is a very big deal. This is not like worn wheel bearing that can handle load until next season. And it was unclear what 5% are they talking about without setting up reference frame.
[citation][nom]pacioli[/nom]My Asus P8P67 Pro MoBo arrives at my house today from Newegg... Should I send it back or keep it?[/citation]
Keep it until a replacement exist. Intel still don't designed and manufactured the replacement, so if you return it, you will be waiting for months.
On other side, if you can return all you components (including the processor), maybe it would make sense. I guess that the processor should fall in price if demand falls.
Just don't use the SATA II ports.
Keep it until a replacement exist. Intel still don't designed and manufactured the replacement, so if you return it, you will be waiting for months.
On other side, if you can return all you components (including the processor), maybe it would make sense. I guess that the processor should fall in price if demand falls.
Just don't use the SATA II ports.
[citation][nom]valpanig[/nom]There might be bigger problem than what officially told. Nothing stops it from setting fire or corrupting important data while processing it. I would say it is a very big deal. This is not like worn wheel bearing that can handle load until next season. And it was unclear what 5% are they talking about without setting up reference frame.[/citation]
But like he said, a simple sata card could avoid the whole problem if someone doesn't want to go through the replacement process. I'd still rather not be one of the 5%, (which is probably in reality a higher percentage), but if mine is effected oh well, just get it replaced and hope Asus throws in something free for the whole thing, (kinda doubt it, but hey it would be nice!)
But like he said, a simple sata card could avoid the whole problem if someone doesn't want to go through the replacement process. I'd still rather not be one of the 5%, (which is probably in reality a higher percentage), but if mine is effected oh well, just get it replaced and hope Asus throws in something free for the whole thing, (kinda doubt it, but hey it would be nice!)
[citation][nom]snoogins[/nom]@pudgychicken regardless of your first point, saying 1k isn't a lot of money for a computer is pretty condescending.[/citation]
That's not being condescending, I was going to say the same thing before he beat me to it. I spent about $2k total on mine, and I don't really consider my PC to be anything spectacular really. Other than the GTX 580 it's pretty much a normal computer. I spent a little extra on a few things here and there, but nothing outlandish, just good quality parts.
That's not being condescending, I was going to say the same thing before he beat me to it. I spent about $2k total on mine, and I don't really consider my PC to be anything spectacular really. Other than the GTX 580 it's pretty much a normal computer. I spent a little extra on a few things here and there, but nothing outlandish, just good quality parts.
false start? 5 yard(week)penalty on intel. AMD knows what SB can do, they need to hurry up with Dozer, they can claim the enthusiast/workstation market if they pull off bulldozer without a hitch(mid 2011)... I look like a genius, i bought my SB i7k but held off on the mobo.
Answering the rethorical question the article asked, to me, it means little. I love staying updated in the news department, but I'm a bit more conservative when it actually comes to buying new gear.
Some people will think I'm mad, but last year, at the beggining of November I decided to do one last upgrade to my socket 775 system; it's a P45 Gigabyte Motherboard, with a healthy 4GB of DDR2 800 from Corsair and an original copy of Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium OEM edition.
The upgrade I did was to the CPU and to the GPU. In the period of two weeks in November I made a good decision and a bad one. I bought a brand new Core 2 Quad Q9550 to replace my Core 2 Duo E8400 and a brand new, just out of the factory, Gigabyte Radeon HD6850 to replace my factory overclocked 8800GT.
Ironically, I guess most people would think that, from a "Sandy Bridge is around the corner" perspective, I was making a bad decision on the CPU (even more considering the E8400 I was coming from) and a good decision on the very efficient and affordable HD6850.
And when you look at CPU buying recommendations, the most you will see is a Q9400 recommendation a few months ago; I must have clearly been out of my mind doing something nobody else was doing.
But I did the math: I have an E8400, revision E0, that I can still sell while it is worth something (which I did); and buying a Quad Core is just a drop in replacement.
Going Nehalem in November wouldn't have made any sense, so waiting for Sandy Bridge was the only option, but here again you can see that the "right around the corner" is not an entirely valid argument - when giving out advice, sites like Tom's Hadware should always tell everybody to take the recommendations with a grain of salt . How badly do you need the new technology ? Everybody knows that even without this unfortunate Sata problem, the newer chipsets always bring new problems that only get solved with a couple of BIOS updates, etc. So, in reality, you should wait at least 3 months before buying a new piece of brand new kit.
That is what I did with the Q9550 and DIDN'T with the HD6850. Of course, each personal experience is just that, but in my case I got a CPU that has a pack date of 27th September of 2010 and is built on a very refined 45nm process; I can easily overclock it to 3.2Ghz on stock voltage and get Core i5 750 performance and wait another year for Sandy Bridge (when it's problems are solved).
Besides, getting another platform would imply buying new DDR3 memory. Sure, that would be included in the price difference between a Core i5 750 and the Q9550 I bought, but I also had to buy a new motherboard, and then there's the added risk of a faulty ram stick or motherboard that I had to take, and all the wasted time it would imply. Just upgrading the CPU is much easier and faster, and less dangerous too, with no motherboards coming out and in (and possibly out) of the case and all the tools needed lying around. And then there's the Windows 7 OEM license problem that would come with a brand new motherboard (not to mention a probable reinstallation of every piece of software, including OS, even if I went past that license problem). Just upgrading the CPU solves that problem too.
Now to the HD6850 - lots of driver problems and even hardware problems - the first batch of cards came with information on the box that tricked me and others to believe the card had two dual link DVI-I ports, when in fact it only had one dual link DVI-I and one single link DVI-D (meaning only one monitor connected through a Dsub adapter instead of two, or, for those with big DVI monitors, only one could be 2560x1600, the other tops out at 1080p); the BIOS it came with idled the twin fans at 73% speed (with a BIOS fix coming online just five days after), and it hard crashed the PC with games like Crysis and a possible fix came online two months after with an F3c vga bios fix to improve compatibility with some games... So I took that card back to the store and came back home with six month old technology - a GTX 460 1GB - it's slightly slower and not as power efficient under load, but it's got a much bigger choice of drivers - that do work, and all the hardware manufacturing has had time to mature.
I'm glad with the CPU I chose, and I'm glad to have learned from the mistake I made when I jumped in on the GPU "buy it as soon as it comes out" enthusiast bandwagon.
All of us get to be guinea pigs from time to time and even laughed at by some idiots for doing the work for them; I had my first time, and hopefully the first of not many LOL.
Some people will think I'm mad, but last year, at the beggining of November I decided to do one last upgrade to my socket 775 system; it's a P45 Gigabyte Motherboard, with a healthy 4GB of DDR2 800 from Corsair and an original copy of Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium OEM edition.
The upgrade I did was to the CPU and to the GPU. In the period of two weeks in November I made a good decision and a bad one. I bought a brand new Core 2 Quad Q9550 to replace my Core 2 Duo E8400 and a brand new, just out of the factory, Gigabyte Radeon HD6850 to replace my factory overclocked 8800GT.
Ironically, I guess most people would think that, from a "Sandy Bridge is around the corner" perspective, I was making a bad decision on the CPU (even more considering the E8400 I was coming from) and a good decision on the very efficient and affordable HD6850.
And when you look at CPU buying recommendations, the most you will see is a Q9400 recommendation a few months ago; I must have clearly been out of my mind doing something nobody else was doing.
But I did the math: I have an E8400, revision E0, that I can still sell while it is worth something (which I did); and buying a Quad Core is just a drop in replacement.
Going Nehalem in November wouldn't have made any sense, so waiting for Sandy Bridge was the only option, but here again you can see that the "right around the corner" is not an entirely valid argument - when giving out advice, sites like Tom's Hadware should always tell everybody to take the recommendations with a grain of salt . How badly do you need the new technology ? Everybody knows that even without this unfortunate Sata problem, the newer chipsets always bring new problems that only get solved with a couple of BIOS updates, etc. So, in reality, you should wait at least 3 months before buying a new piece of brand new kit.
That is what I did with the Q9550 and DIDN'T with the HD6850. Of course, each personal experience is just that, but in my case I got a CPU that has a pack date of 27th September of 2010 and is built on a very refined 45nm process; I can easily overclock it to 3.2Ghz on stock voltage and get Core i5 750 performance and wait another year for Sandy Bridge (when it's problems are solved).
Besides, getting another platform would imply buying new DDR3 memory. Sure, that would be included in the price difference between a Core i5 750 and the Q9550 I bought, but I also had to buy a new motherboard, and then there's the added risk of a faulty ram stick or motherboard that I had to take, and all the wasted time it would imply. Just upgrading the CPU is much easier and faster, and less dangerous too, with no motherboards coming out and in (and possibly out) of the case and all the tools needed lying around. And then there's the Windows 7 OEM license problem that would come with a brand new motherboard (not to mention a probable reinstallation of every piece of software, including OS, even if I went past that license problem). Just upgrading the CPU solves that problem too.
Now to the HD6850 - lots of driver problems and even hardware problems - the first batch of cards came with information on the box that tricked me and others to believe the card had two dual link DVI-I ports, when in fact it only had one dual link DVI-I and one single link DVI-D (meaning only one monitor connected through a Dsub adapter instead of two, or, for those with big DVI monitors, only one could be 2560x1600, the other tops out at 1080p); the BIOS it came with idled the twin fans at 73% speed (with a BIOS fix coming online just five days after), and it hard crashed the PC with games like Crysis and a possible fix came online two months after with an F3c vga bios fix to improve compatibility with some games... So I took that card back to the store and came back home with six month old technology - a GTX 460 1GB - it's slightly slower and not as power efficient under load, but it's got a much bigger choice of drivers - that do work, and all the hardware manufacturing has had time to mature.
I'm glad with the CPU I chose, and I'm glad to have learned from the mistake I made when I jumped in on the GPU "buy it as soon as it comes out" enthusiast bandwagon.
All of us get to be guinea pigs from time to time and even laughed at by some idiots for doing the work for them; I had my first time, and hopefully the first of not many LOL.
just bought Gigabyte UD7, will use 6gbps ports till the time replacement arrives.. and maybe move to Z68 at that time
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