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I have to LOL @ the peeps on this thread complaining about Intel not including a stock intel h/s with those chips. I mean seriously, who in their right mind is going to spend that kind of money on a chip like that and not get an after market cpu h/s? And if they can afford one of those chips, they sure in the h*ll can afford an after market h/s.

Reality check...
 
[citation][nom]runswindows95[/nom]Why does the Prescotts come to mind? Sorry, even if I had the money, I will not be buying a CPU that they actually suggest water cooling for. That is insane.[/citation]

Do you remember low end AMD's Athlon's producing 70+w of heat for no reason in the day? I guess not

Prescotts didnt put out that much heat considering, it was more it did it while not performing any better then the last gen, and poor efficency compared to AMD's Athlon 64's that made it look bad.

This is targeted at high end, expect high end requirements with it.
 
[citation][nom]cornandbeans[/nom]I have already bought a heat sink so I am happier with this.[/citation]
Yes, but compatible with the new socket, me thinks not young padwin, Hmm.
 
[citation][nom]JackFrost860[/nom]Yes, but compatible with the new socket, me thinks not young padwin, Hmm.[/citation]
Ah...sorry I have forgotten. I will not use that crappy cooler from Intel anyway!
 
23A on the 12V2 rail? That means a 280W consumption is assumed because you have to remember that it's not just the chip itself that consumes power but also the dc-dc converters.

And to actually get optimal performance out of these you'd need 2 or 3-way SLI or crossfire too. Let's just assume 2 GeForce GTX590 at 340W power consumption each.

Then it beg the question where do I put the 2nd PSU? Because even a 1000W one will not cut it. With any reasonable headroom you'd need at least a 1400W PSU, and those aren't run-of-mill stock-at-every-store types.
 
[citation][nom]saturnus[/nom]23A on the 12V2 rail? That means a 280W consumption is assumed because you have to remember that it's not just the chip itself that consumes power but also the dc-dc converters. And to actually get optimal performance out of these you'd need 2 or 3-way SLI or crossfire too. Let's just assume 2 GeForce GTX590 at 340W power consumption each.Then it beg the question where do I put the 2nd PSU? Because even a 1000W one will not cut it. With any reasonable headroom you'd need at least a 1400W PSU, and those aren't run-of-mill stock-at-every-store types.[/citation]

Welcome to HIGH END - for the average person: stick with a low end AMD or mid range sandy bridge 1155 build :)
 
[citation][nom]quangluu96[/nom]WTF? sounds like buying a Lamborghini with no wheels, and u gotta get it serperately, are u sure these are the real leaks? i mean those stock doesnt cost that much...why cant they just include them? if this is true im disappointed in intel..ill wait till the bulldozer news, if it looks good ima switch...been a fan of intel for years.[/citation]
Of all your spelling errors, how the hell did you manage to spell Lamborghini correctly?

Anyway, that's not a good analogy because most people buying these chips are buying a different cooler anyway. Back in the day Intel used to sell chips as OEMs without the coolers and those were quite popular, not sure why they stopped that. Intel coolers aren't any good anyway; they are noisy, don't cool well, and not even aesthetically pleasing contrasted against the rest of a beautifully designed case.

My Zalman 9900 on the other hand is dead silent, keeps things icy cool, and it isn't a boring ugly square like the stock coolers.
 
I see no issue with this. Honestly, I never use the stock coolers and if I'm spending that much on a processor I'm going to spend a little more to get something better than a blob of aluminum. I doubt installation without a heatsink will be an issue for most people, but I remember seeing a person on Newegg complain that an i5 wouldn't fit his old P4 motherboard despite both being Intel based.

This whole "Cheaper, therefore better!" mentality really needs to die soon. If you really don't use your computer for much, fine, but stop criticizing those of us who have a use for the extra power and are willing to pay for performance parts.

Here's a solution: Don't gripe about the quality or purpose of a product you will never need, nor use. Go buy some el-cheapo $50 board, a $50 CPU and try your luck unlocking. You get what you pay for. If AMD is good enough for you, just buy it. Nothing Intel releases will make an AMD product less valuable to you if that is all you truly need.

There's far too much sniping by people who feel superior/smarter because they spent less money on a system against people who spent more due to needing a higher end system. When did we enter a period of reverse snobbery?
 
[citation][nom]blurr91[/nom]Will this translate into savings for the consumers?[/citation]
Why should it? They're doing you a service by not shipping one so you don't fry it! Services aren't free. This will cost you. /s
 
[citation][nom]liveonc[/nom]Go Pentium 66 Mhz w/o a heat sink overheating & giving birth to fans![/citation]
Ummm....fans were used prior to the Pentium 66mhz... The Cyrix 486DX5-133 required a fan to avoid heat related failures.

[citation][nom]blurr91[/nom]Will this translate into savings for the consumers?[/citation]

Doubt it. Intel likes to pass on the cost to consumers...but rarely do they pass on the savings.

[citation][nom]dragonsqrrl[/nom]A 30% reduction in render time is quite significant, and while that on it's own might not warrant paying 5-10x more (even for pro applications), I think you're also vastly underestimating the performance of these upcoming Sandy Bridge-E processors. The i7-990x, a six core processor based on Intel's previous gen architecture already outperforms a Phenom II x4 by quite a bit more then 30% in the applications you mentioned. Especially Blender, where the performance increase is probably much closer to 2x. And that can definitely be worth the price premium if the extra performance is needed and put to use. It may not make a lot of sense for the average user or gamer, but I think to suggest that bragging rights is the only reason anyone invests in a high performance processor is a bit ignorant.[/citation]

Most of us would expect a hexa-core with Hyper-Threading to dramatically outperform a quad core... I mean, come on, 12 threads vs 4.....if the app is properly coded to use Hyper-Threading, the performance gain should be in the realm of 30-50%, give or take a few %.
 
[citation][nom]tajisi[/nom]When did we enter a period of reverse snobbery?[/citation]

When people just judged processors on their Ghz rating.
 

+1
 

The 1155 boards also support the new 22mm Ivy Bridge cpu's coming out next spring. So unless you have an urge to switch over to the the LGA2011 and spend that kind of money on an enthusiast chip, then the 1155 boards do just fine seeing how they provide the upgrade path to Ivy Bridge.
 
[citation][nom]hjominbonrun[/nom]LGA2011? Is that another motherboard upgrade so soon after upgrading from 1156 to 1155?AMD Here I come. Take me!![/citation]
...sigh.

LGA1155 and LGA2011 are coexisting platforms targeted at two different market segments, like LGA1156 and LGA1366.
 
[citation][nom]sykozis[/nom]Most of us would expect a hexa-core with Hyper-Threading to dramatically outperform a quad core... I mean, come on, 12 threads vs 4.....if the app is properly coded to use Hyper-Threading, the performance gain should be in the realm of 30-50%, give or take a few %.[/citation]
Read the comment I responded to...
 
Well... all I can say is that if my CPU would have come with no stock cooler, and I knew I had to buy one, I wouldn't have bought the cheapest. But since the CPU came boxed with one, I just threw it in there and couldn't make myself to spend another 30$ on a separate cooler. I guess this doesn't happen if you're already willing to pay 1000$ for your CPU but still.
 
I have a habit of hanging onto too many pc components I no longer (or never) use. The stock coolers have come in handy in rare occasions where I was modifying the one I intended to use. So, they're nice to have lying around, especially if you have an unhealthy collection of spare parts.

I still think there will be some negative impacts from this decision. There are those "strange" customers that would go out to shop for a specific processor, realize it doesn't come with a cooler, and out of ignorance or pure stubbornness, opt to select a comparable product that does include a cooler. This may be an opportunity for AMD to include higher-end coolers for their premium products to steal some of these people away from Intel.

On average, people tell 11 people about their "bad" experience, and only 1 person about their "good" experience. (This is an old statistic taken back in 2006, and not providing any reference for it cuz this is just a comment about news; not news.)
 

You make a valid point. On the other hand I don't see the people that take the time to pay this kind of money for an enthusiast chip to change over to AMD's high end cpu atm.

I do believe this cpu down below is AMD's flagship atm.

AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban <---- That cpu retails for $190 USD on newegg. If that cpu comes close to running with the Intel cpu, I would be surprised.
 
[citation][nom]hjominbonrun[/nom]LGA2011? Is that another motherboard upgrade so soon after upgrading from 1156 to 1155?AMD Here I come. Take me!![/citation]

Socket 462 - 754 - 940 - 939 - 940 (AM2) - 940 (AM2+) - 940 (AM2, crappy VRM, 95w MAX) AM3

DO YOU THINK AMD IS ANY BETTER?

Theres a reason Intel changes sockets - 1) outdated motherboards with new components are rubbish and 2) because your limited with old pin-outs and technology

This is exactly why Intel can create faster more efficent cpus and AMD still has, well nothing high end.

Dont you dare say AMD is better then Intel for keeping sockets thats the biggest load of BS ever.
 
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