Say what you want -- ATi -- Rules

[noko]

I am very glad to hear that. I am sure you can play many games just fine and enjoy them all. Same here. 😎

 

[Grizely1]

Actually, right now I can't play anygames (don't have a mobo, cpu or any memory! LOL!) Right now I'm on my ol' 333 P2 with TNT2 Ultra. I guess I could play games but it would be uncivilized.

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I don't hate Intel............ Do I?

 

[noko]

lol, hopefully you get your setup back together. There are games to be conquered. Here is a link to a cool setup CPU/Cooler/motherboard with hot reviews if you are interested:

<A HREF="http://www.genxtechcomp.com/specials.html" target="_new">http://www.genxtechcomp.com/specials.html</A>

Check out the review here:

<A HREF="http://www.thetechzone.com/reviews/cpu/oc_warehouse/tbird650/index.shtml" target="_new">http://www.thetechzone.com/reviews/cpu/oc_warehouse/tbird650/index.shtml</A>

Will make your GTS II scream. Anyways I am waiting for this setup myself. I have a Abit KA7 with an Athlon 700 overclocked to 800. Upgrading to a Thunderbird, KT133a chipset Mobo, and cas 2 pc133. I was going to wait for a DDR solution but now I will wait until DDR plateforms mature, prices come down etc. Probably next year.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by noko on 02/09/01 06:46 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[Grizely1]

Yeah same here. I am picking up the new parts this weekend (leaving tomorrow morning. There is a huge computer show about 3 hours away.)

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I don't hate Intel............ Do I?

 

[noko]

lucky, lucky lucky. Here in Orlando Florida we have the worst computer shows ever, cramped and a bunch of used stuff. I remember in Pomona California the computer show was huge, I mean so huge that it took hours to walk and see all the displays. Anyways good luck.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by noko on 02/09/01 06:53 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[LordKaos]

No you haven´t !
The computer shows here in Portugal sucks!
Nothing new, always crowded and never anything good to buy!

And if there´s anything good, its not for sale only for show!

Better burn in Hell with some company than freeze in Heaven all alone

 

[LordKaos]

Have you forgot the X-BOX?

Better burn in Hell with some company than freeze in Heaven all alone

 

[noko]

Wow! now I know why your so grouchy, cheer up there is always the internet to shop on. Works for me except for the darn waiting for what you bought last week.

 

[LordKaos]

The internet?
Buying on the internet cheaper, and then paying taxes and transportion making the product even more expensive that
he was if i bought it here in person?

And then there´s the waiting ! Across the ocean it takes over a month , and if i ask for it to come faster it will
cost even more!

E-commerce doesn´t makes prices cheaper !
It only makes the products available worldwide!

Better burn in Hell with some company than freeze in Heaven all alone

 

[noko]

Looks like you need to move to the states. Make Bush your new president, salute the flag etc. Maybe it is time to close this thread and start another.

 

[xxsk8er101xx]

have you thought about using the new technological advancments called the phone? have you ever called them? maybe they are busy with all the crap email they get huh? u think?

 

[tfbww]

There are a few reasons 3dfx technology was not going to thelp them. First of all, a couple of pieces of technology can not keep a company afloat. They CAN, however, enhance another company. Second, and what's more relevant, is that a technology is NOT what generated profits for 3dfx; unlike nVidia (diametrically opposed if you will), 3dfx actually made their money from selling boards, not licensing technology. HUGE difference. And lastly, the board business is highlly capital intensive and relatively low margins compared to an R&D & licensing house.

I never said they did Voodoo owners a favor so don't you dare put words in my mouth. In fact, I know and they know they aren't. Let me repeat: They did NOT buy the Servicing rights (nor the mfg side). I can't emphasize this enough: They have not, they can not, and they will not service consumers. That is the business of the board manufacturers (another reason why it's a smaller margin biz than R&D).

At least you own up to the fact that what you've read is may be fantasy. It's a lot of "grassy knoll" conjecture from some disappointed fans, if you ask me (which you didn't 😛

 

[Grizely1]

Actually, 3Dfx made way more money licensing chips than they did making their own boards. When they decided to make their own boards, look what happened to them. Licensing is the way to go.

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Satan Clara...... 'Nuff said.

 

[LordKaos]

Well , im considering the option!
As soon as i´m finished with University , i´m going to
think this one better!

Better burn in Hell with some company than freeze in Heaven all alone

 

[noko]

So what Technology did Nvidia obtain from 3dfx? Do you know? How will that play out for Nvidia? This is interesting.

 

[noko]

Getting back to <font color=blue><b>ATI Rules :tongue: </font color=blue></b>. Radeon is the first to have a 10-bit palette DAC vice a 8-bit palette DAC as in the Gefarces. Meaning the Radeon allows a more precise color adjustment.

 

[noko]

I hope everything works out for you. We need good people in the states.

 

[LordKaos]

Yeah ? Thanks!

I know the girls do! :-D

Better burn in Hell with some company than freeze in Heaven all alone

 

[Grizely1]

nVidia obtained everything of 3Dfx's, except like their facilities and stuff. patents, cards, stocks, everything.

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Satan Clara...... 'Nuff said.

 

[noko]

lol

 

[rcf84]

I get 4023 3dmarks w/ a celeron(p2) 533 @ 600 2.2v W/ ati radeon 32mb DDR @ 210 / 200

First person to get a topic banned. ABIT BP6 Lives FOREVER!!!

 

[tfbww]

To that end, and as I believe someone else noted, I think the big thing will be 3dfx's FSAA, something most hardware is hard-pressed to accomplish. Don't know if Glide in its purest form will make return (seriously doubt it).

 

[Guest]

Horrible graphics? hmm, okay, that makes tons of sense... ATI must suck after all..

-AMD's are not for the faint of heart... Intels? those are for newbies 😱)-

 

[Guest]

why are you overclocking it unbalanced? 210/200... I dont think it makes a difference if one is higher than the other, the speed is limited by the highest... or did I read that wrong somewhere else?

I plan on getting an ATI 32MB Radeon DDR chip.... why? Because I think ATI rocks?! No, I dont know that... because I think Nvidia sucks, and so do GeForce? Umm, no... Because Im happy with my 32mb ATI Rage 128, and figure this might be a decent card... partly... Because ATI RAdeon 32MB DDR is for sale around 90 dollars, while GF2 GTS is at 160+? Definitely! According to benchmarks, etc... they are comparable at 32Bit color, and frankly I could put that 70 dollars towards a better HD set up, etc...

dangt! I'm a member now...


-AMD's are not for the faint of heart... Intels? those are for newbies 😱)-

 

[Grizely1]

4023 isn't really something to brag about... don't get me wrong, it's pretty good, but i bet i could get way more with my GF2 GTS (i will try once i get my 1.2GHz Tbird and mobo on Tuesday.)

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Satan Clara...... 'Nuff said.