Which is much more demanding than other activities. Games HAVE to happen in realtime. Most other graphic card uses are not sub-second requirements.At the end of the day, they play games.
That's all well and fine. However, playing a game is not worth paying $1,000 for a single component in a computer that requires half a dozen more components. First-Person Shooters, Role Playing Games, Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Games, Real-Time Strategy, etc. etc. None of them are fun enough or entertaining enough to cost me over $1,000 for a GPU.Which is much more demanding than other activities. Games HAVE to happen in realtime. Most other graphic card uses are not sub-second requirements.
Low end card DON'T cost $1000. And your performance in games will be poor. If that is acceptable, then you don't have to pay $1000.
$1000+ if you choose to game at 4K.
And even then you don't have to pay that much since both a 4070Ti and a 7900XT cost less and are perfectly capable of the resolution, with full settings 😉$1000+ if you choose to game at 4K.
I play online multiplayer first person shooter games so I like to keep an average of 100+ fps.And even then you don't have to pay that much since both a 4070Ti and a 7900XT cost less and are perfectly capable of the resolution, with full settings 😉
That's all well and fine. However, playing a game is not worth paying $1,000 for a single component in a computer that requires half a dozen more components. First-Person Shooters, Role Playing Games, Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Games, Real-Time Strategy, etc. etc. None of them are fun enough or entertaining enough to cost me over $1,000 for a GPU.
I'm just curious how many people actually defend their cost.
Which ones, out of curiosity? From what I have seen, they mostly seem not too demanding on the GPU, but I don't really follow them too closely. I'm more the MMO type myself and they mostly need CPU horsepower. My fat GPU is mostly there for single player games.I play online multiplayer first person shooter games so I like to keep an average of 100+ fps.
Sorry, but that's just nonsense... my system cost less than half that and will run for many years to come.You can get a 40 series card in a laptop FOR $1k. lol. I would rather buy that and wait for them to die down to less than $500. It's almost impossible to try and build a desktop for less than $5k and not let it depreciate by the time it gets delivered to your house.
I mean the new line of laptops are 1tb nvme ssd. 4060. 16gb and ddr5 for like $1k. lol. That takes my build and like 10 folds it with upgrades. And its from 2016 and cost like $2500 without peripherals.Sorry, but that's just nonsense... my system cost less than half that and will run for many years to come.
$1000 and $2000 GPUs should exist,At the end of the day, they play games.
BF1 atm.Which ones, out of curiosity? From what I have seen, they mostly seem not too demanding on the GPU, but I don't really follow them too closely. I'm more the MMO type myself and they mostly need CPU horsepower. My fat GPU is mostly there for single player games.
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....this guy right here is spending more on his pc than my car is worth.
i think your question should ask "why do gpu's cost so much?" then you get into the companies price gouging, competition and chinese shipping.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FWZHPXI mean the new line of laptops are 1tb nvme ssd. 4060. 16gb and ddr5 for like $1k. lol. That takes my build and like 10 folds it with upgrades. And its from 2016 and cost like $2500 without peripherals.
EDIT: with a 13th gen i7 13kh series. lol.
Hyperbole to the max. A 4070Ti is available for $800 and plays in the league of a 3090 and 3090 Ti at severely lower power consumption. I'm afraid you got worse problems than gaming if you would need to sell your car to get one of these. And then there are a plethora of lower-end desktop parts that are perfectly fine and can be had for far less. You can even build a very decent 1080p system for the money you would spend in the 4070Ti alone...exactly, if I sold my car to webuyanycar.com or whatever i wouldnt be able to afford a pc. I would literally scrape by with a laptop actually worth buying with the newer specs on it.
God gave me free will as he did you. That is somewhat of a position of judge. Posting to this thread is not a requirement to join Tom's Hardware, so I'm not "making" anyone defend anything. Promoting discussion and displaying opinions of judgement is EXACTLY the reason for this thread. If you want to extinguish free discussion based on your feelings getting hurt, then by all means, go right ahead.I'm sorry, who exactly pointed you judge? What business is it of yours to make people "defend" their personal cost/benefit analysis?
These are entertainment products. A seller offers a particular item at a particular price at which a buyer can choose to purchase or choose not to purchase. This isn't a loaf of bread to feed your starving family.
You don't need a thousand-dollar GPU to game or even to game well. But if you want to get all the bells and whistles, from details to resolution, that's going to be expensive. And if it's not worth the money for you, well, that's great; you don't have to buy it. Exactly zero people in history have been forced to buy a GPU for their gaming rig at gunpoint.
If you've started the thread with the idea of playing some grand inquisitor who pronounces judgment on the decisions of others to decide GPUs are worth it or not worth it to them, this thread isn't going to be open very long.
In the big picture, considering what most of the people in the world live on, anyone who even has something as frivolous as a gaming rig shouldn't trying to play John Everyman, fighting those fat cat bourgeoisie with their Nvidia 4090s. In the context of a world in which two-thirds of people live on less than $10 a day, we're all quite wealthy. Cosplaying as an ascete because you "only" have a 6950 XT is a bit embarrassing.
When just a video card costs more than an entire console, it's hard to justify PC gaming.