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As DaSickNinja says - return it while it's still under warranty!!!

A missing or corrupted file is one thing, but if it is saying that your disk is damaged - replace it ASAP.

Hard Drives are susceptible to damage if your system is jostled or bumped while the HD is reading or writing. (Or even getting hit by a falling HeatSink 😛 ) - or it could be a just a bad drive.


You said earlier:
The computer is formatting really freakin slow, and when i first put in windows xp disk, it loaded everything really slow. is something wrong? The hardrive format speed is concerning me. on the sytem im using now, it takes alot less time to format the hardrive, it is about half the size, but still, my new system is lightyears ahead of the system im using now, so i find it a little unsettling. could anyone shine some light on this?
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Your CPU doesn't really have much affect on these types of I/O operations. It's going to take alot of time to format the drive no matter what system you're using.
 
im really not sure if i can rma it. i bought it used off ebay. suposidly it was in a raid setup for some company. they said its still under warrenty but im not sure what to do about all of this.
 
You've driven me to use this.
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A hard drive? On eBay? A hard drive is the first component to fail in a computer. eBay is not known for the quality of components that you can buy from them.
You've lost your money. There is a huge possiblity that you cant send it back.
Please learn from this. Do not buy drives on eBay. You're better off setting up the RAID yourself and buying from Newegg or Zipzoomfly..
 
lol and thats the problem, i really dont want to take the mobo out, i have everything istalled, everything. just need to get the heatsink on the cpu and start installing windows
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Sometimes u gotta do what u have to do....
 
You've driven me to use this.
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A hard drive? On eBay? A hard drive is the first component to fail in a computer. eBay is not known for the quality of components that you can buy from them.
You've lost your money. There is a huge possiblity that you cant send it back.
Please learn from this. Do not buy drives on eBay. You're better off setting up the RAID yourself and buying from Newegg or Zipzoomfly..
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this is the first item i have bought from ebay that broke. its worth the chance considering the price is sliced in about half.
 
But with that 50% slash in price you take a awful lot of risks. For that reason, I never by second hand disk drives (And you never know what... surprises you'll find on them).
The nature of hard drives is that they will fail before any other component in a modern PC. Most of the stuff that you find on a PC is solid state. The hard drive though, has 3 or more platters that spin in an excess of 7200 rpm, for sustained periods of time for multiple periods. They can be damaged (crashed) by having something as minuscule as a wisp of smoke or a grain of dust get in the housing.
To the head, the platter seems to be moving at about 150 mph, and a very thin cushion of air forms between the head and the platter so that the head "flies" over the platter. If even the smallest bit of dust makes its way onto the platter, the flight is disrupted and the head "crashes" into the platter, scratching it. The crash, of course, sprays a lot more dust and debris onto the platter and then it's all over.
This risk is exacerbated when buying a drive that for all likelihood was put thru its paces.
Just remember that and be careful what you spend you money on.
Ninja
 
hey to the guy that recomended those programs, how am i supose to run them? my new computer doesnt have a floppy drive. and how would i go about getting the computer to access the program?
 
hehehehe, i cant get over it...
"My HSF fell off after a little bit, and then I did the same thing again!" 😛

I thought it was hilarious, continue with the HD problem...
 
alright you guys, here is the deal, i installed the program on the zip drive. When I turned on the computer, the hardrive clicks, it never did that before i stoped messing with it. So im pretty sure its broken. and I got into bios, it didnt let me access the zip drive. but what should I do about the drive, is it broken hardcore? do I have to call the company for an RMA? :?:
 
It's broken.

Go to the link I gave earlier. (Msg 56)

Click on Warranty Check on the left side of the screen.

This will bring up a box for you to input the serial number from your drive and WD will be able to tell if it is still under warranty.

If it is, they will give you the info on returning it.

If it's not - you'll have to get a new drive.
 
alrighy, Im probably gonna do what you recomended, They are asking for my phone number, does that mean that they are going to call me? because I dont want that.
 
Sometimes, they just want the phone number to contact you if they have a question. For example: If they have a typo in your address in their database - they need a way of getting ahold of you if the drive they sent out comes back to them.

Other times you may get a call after they send the drive out, to see if your pleased with the customer service, etc.

I wouldn't worry about it. If they call - they call. It's not like your doing anything questionable. If the drive is still under warranty, it shouldn't matter if you bough it used.
 
I am gonna be as constructive as i can after reading this entire thread.

First off a few questions

Did you consider reading a how-to book on building your own computer?

If so did you understand the concepts that were taught?

Now after the fact...Did you learn anything from failing the build?

Do you understand the concepts that you have learned?

If I asked for assistance and was too lazy to follow it and said "what the heck they dont know anything just because they said do this..." Would I expect them to listen to me when I kept repeating the same error? simply no.

I dont know what to tell you except books are your friend when doing something you havent done before. If i was to decide to wire my own electrical outlets and switches. Having never done it before I would look for a Book at Hastings to learn the basic principals first. I wouldnt wire it flip the breaker and wow those are pretty lights !!! Then goto a forum and ask what did i do wrong??

Can you see where I am going? Basic knoweledge of a project is paramount to success.

I would be thanking these fine people that took loads of time to help you even though you blatantly ignored thier superior knoweledge in the basics of computer building.

Thats all i can say. I just hope you have learned something from all of this. If its too good to be true then somethings wrong with it. You get what you pay for. Sometimes its a superior brandname sometimes its just a superior product.

Hacker91 peace!!
 
I am gonna be as constructive as i can after reading this entire thread.

First off a few questions

Did you consider reading a how-to book on building your own computer?

If so did you understand the concepts that were taught?

Now after the fact...Did you learn anything from failing the build?

Do you understand the concepts that you have learned?

If I asked for assistance and was too lazy to follow it and said "what the heck they dont know anything just because they said do this..." Would I expect them to listen to me when I kept repeating the same error? simply no.

I dont know what to tell you except books are your friend when doing something you havent done before. If i was to decide to wire my own electrical outlets and switches. Having never done it before I would look for a Book at Hastings to learn the basic principals first. I wouldnt wire it flip the breaker and wow those are pretty lights !!! Then goto a forum and ask what did i do wrong??

Can you see where I am going? Basic knoweledge of a project is paramount to success.

I would be thanking these fine people that took loads of time to help you even though you blatantly ignored thier superior knoweledge in the basics of computer building.

Thats all i can say. I just hope you have learned something from all of this. If its too good to be true then somethings wrong with it. You get what you pay for. Sometimes its a superior brandname sometimes its just a superior product.

Hacker91 peace!!
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the only thing I ignored is them telling me to take the motherboard out. and that was because I felt I could get it to work given enough patience. so dont go judging me and saying that I dont know what Im doing. And nothing was superior, its just an opinion on how to go about things. take your accusations somewhere else.
 
Essentially he is correct although his method of disclosing this to you is quite harsh. If you see more than 4 people with at least 1000 posts telling you not to do it and to do something the correct way, please, at least consider what we have to say. Patience, would not be saying that you have everything in so you don't want to take it apart. A little effort would not be trying to force a component onto the motherboard when it shouldve been done before you built the computer.

Yes, I understand that its a pain in the ass to have to disassemble and reassemble a computer if it doesn't work on the first boot.

Yes, I understand that you didn't know that it would be the best thing to assemble the motherboard outside the case.

Yes, I understand that you didn't understand that running a CPU without a heat sink would damage it.

But that in no way excuses you when you ask for help, get the same answer four or five times, and promptly disregard it. It shows bad Netiquette.

You got real lucky. Most of the time if someone did this they would be ignored by the third try. But we felt nice. Don't abuse that. We know from experience. We've done our share of screw ups. When you ask and you get the same answer, please listen to us.

We hate seeing good hardware go bye-bye before its time, or before you ever got a chance to overclock your new components.

I'm not going to go over buying components from eBay because its your choice where you get your stuff from, we'll just recommend not to do so.
By no means am I yelling at you. I'm just saying what I know.

I hope that when you finish this build it works gret for you. and i also hope that you'll learn more, learn how to post better, and be able to pay foward the help you recieved. There are very few people on the Forumz that don't have a debt to pay to those that helped them. I have mine, you have yours.

From my screen to yours bro,
Ninja


PS: Be glad Wusy wasn't here for this.
 
Hey guys, how long do you think it will take to get the new drive in the mail? because I am thinking about ordering another drive and putting the two in a raid 0 setup. I think performance would be increased by a good amount because when the computer was up and running I noticed that the only thing that actually took time was loading. everything else was instantaneous.
 
There's no such thing as an opinion when installing a heat sink... It's either done 100% correctly or 100% incorrectly, my opinion is that you should have listened to the advice given to you. The heat sink is the most important component of the computer. It is the heart, if it stops beating than the "brain" (CPU) will likely perish. Consider yourself lucky that you werent installing an older AMD chip as they fried within seconds of not having the HSF on them. Anyway, don't take it personally if somebody critique's your particular methods, they are only trying to help. They spent far more time trying to help you than the time it would have taken for you to take the MOBO out and do things properly. A hard drive is less than 100 bucks and is likely far more capacious than anything on ebay since the prices go down almost daily as well as the space going up. A HD is a terrible thing to buy on ebay because the shipping alone can ruin it. A friend of mine worked in a post office (Canada Post) and believe me when I say this, anybody in a union does'nt care about your package, they only want to finish their quota and check out, even if that means throwing the parcels in the truck and stacking several heavier boxes on top the end to them justifies the means in every case. Anyway, your inexperience could have EASILY cost you another CPU and/mobo so losing a HD is nothing in comparison to what, after reading this thread, you could/should have burned/fried thus far. Take the advice you're given or don't bother making a thread in a forum filled with dedicated extremely computer literate nerds who drool at the sight of low latency ram timings and overclocked x6800's! Moral of the story is, you don't "let" us help you, we let you ask us to help you.
 
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