So, when does NVIDIA Pascal come out?

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Told myself that now that I have a job, I'd snag a GTX 1080, or equivalent, on the conditions that I maintain this job until then, have wiggle room for money, and on the condition that I do well in school and keep up good health (lots of conditions).

Current GPU is a 970.

Main questions I have are:

1) Do we have a price estimate for the GTX 1080 yet?

2) Do we have any idea how it compares to the GTX 900 series? I know that it's supposed to have 4 stacks of HBM2 (compared to the FuryX's 4 stacks of HBM1), and since it's a whole new architecture it's supposed to have extra transistors and stuff, but is there anything solid on the performance difference? There's leaks regarding the fact there's 16GB and 32GB VRAM Cards coming out, but my assumption is that these would be specifically for Super Computers.

3) Do we know of any rumors or leaks as to when the GPU comes out specifically?

4) Would an i7-4790k CPU at stock speeds (4ghz quad-core) become a bottle-neck when used in conjunction with a high-end NVIDIA Pascal for gaming?

5) What resolution would you assume to be the "limit" for "ultra" next-gen gaming with a single high-end NVIDIA Pascal card for sufficient frame rates(GTX 1080 or equivalent specifically)?
 
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Two good rumor websites to check out are:
http://videocardz.com/
http://wccftech.com/

Here's some Pascal news:

Nvidia gets first samples of GP100 from TSMC, begins internal tests
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-shilov/nvidia-receives-first-samples-of-gp100-chips-from-tsmc-begins-to-test-them/
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If this is true, and NVIDIA makes public statements that, not only will the Volta supercomputer chips be out in early/mid 2017, but also that the Volta consumer chips will be released as well, then I foresee my self getting the GTX 1080 Pascal equivalent when it's released. Then I'll end up going for the 1080 Ti or perhaps even Titan equivalent of Volta technology when that's released.
 
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Initially Pascal did not exist in nvidia roadmap. Volta was supposed to succeed Maxwell. But things has change a lot. I imagne nvidia has certain back up plans if things are not going as they expect. At least i think they have the financial to do so unlike AMD that always in the red at quarterly report. Maxwell was initially to be better at DP than kepler as well. But in the end nvidia still able to launch maxwell in 2014 despite the changes done to the architecture.
 
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The most brief nvidia CES keynote ever? They just talk about drive PX 2 and nothing else. They did not talk about tegra when the new drive PX 2 clearly using new tegra chip. 6 core cpu that might be configured in big.LITTLE style; 4 A57 cores paired with 2 denver core. I say 'might' because A57 and denver are both high performance core while the idea of big.LITTLE was about combining both strong and weak cores together. It seems nvidia still not ready talking about pascal yet despite AMD already showing bits of what their next gen gpu will be capable (polaris).
 
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I suggest you watch the video because it mentioned that use of 2 Tegra's and 2 nvidia GPU's although all 4 chips only have 1 more TFLOP than the Titan X all the tech is impressive...

Hopefully the new pascal chips will have integrated cpu's like the drive px 2.

" I'm not sure what the impact on gaming the much improved deep learning abilities on Pascal will have on video games however the refinement is impressive...


I think these GPU's will do much better with DX 12 games based on Jen-Hsun Huang speech...
 
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I was working when the live keynote goes live. There are videos on you tube buti was too lazy to watch it when i already know they moatly talk about self driving stuff only. And i did saw the picture of drive px2. Unlike the original drive PX that based on tegra X1 drive PX2 have two discrete pascal based gpu that will assist in calculation. Though some said nvidia just use GTX980 (for laptop) MXM module on the one they show to the public because the module is very similar to 980 MXM module. And the one that JHH talk about things they add to pascal most likely about FP16. It is not common on dekstop gpu (i don't think even AMD have them) but on mobile FP16 is pretty much common for everyone and it seems when it comes to mobile gpu (for SoC) nvidia is way behind. They add the support in tegra X1 but for their dekstop gpu only with pascal will FP16 officially supported.
 
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You're certainly waiting comfortably lol
 
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By now it seems to be in the summer.
I don't know what the intention was with your reply, mine was to say to not get the GTX 970 in SLI rather than a 980Ti since the total price and performance is about the same but the later does it without SLI and with more VRAM.

Something is always going to drop "soon", unless I needed a new graphics card I guess I wouldn't be one right now either, as for the 980Ti that's kinda a special case since it arrived much later than the others and maybe it will be the same for the next one, but next "80" without Ti will likely be at Ti-level of current gen anyway but be cheaper if history is anything to go by.

 
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We can try predict based on history but this past few generation.....they become harder to be use as reference to predict nvidia and amd future action. I imagine both actually prefer the other side to make moves first. Espcially for nvidia being late does not necessarily bad for them unless they were hold down up to two quarters like what happen with fermi.
 
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The best bet for me is to buy two Gigabyte
G1 Gaming GTX 980Ti's at the launch of Pascal as I did at the launch of the 900 series when I bought 2x Gigabyte Windforce OC GTX 780Ti's which together cost £100 less than a single 980TI and are a fair chunk faster - and I do mean, "a fair chunk" - anywhere up to 40fps (title depending).

The new XX70 won't be a match for 2x 980Ti's, and a new XX80TI may well be a match, if not faster than 2x 980Ti's but, will it be worth the price-tag (and power) considering games at 4k don't break 2x 980Ti's backs, provided you don't stupidly and unnecessarily set AA to ridiculous highs. It is also worth remembering that newer titles will be created using DirectX 12 theoretically making easier work for 980Ti's (and lower), including VR, which is going to be the what every card will need to power well!

Absolutely, buy high-end Pascal if you can afford them yet, if you can't, I'd wait for Pascal and buy 980Ti's secondhand on or around Pascal release
 
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Yep :)
in retrospect, I wish I would have gone with 1 GPU. the second GTX 980 Ti is completely redundant once overclocked to 1500+ MHz. It destroys everything even at 4K. But in order to take out the second one, I would have to disassemble my water cooling loop. and i'm just too lazy for that.



and you know this how? you have a mystical crystal ball that tells the future? or are you just repeating what some idiot blogger said somewhere? there is no reason for nvidia to refresh maxwell. it will be a total waste of money for them. 980 Ti still sh!ts on everything AMD has. to support my statement, i present exhibit A:
perfrel_3840.gif
 
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Talk about first world problems! :lol: So you have too suffer the indignity of too much fire-power, my heart bleeds for you. Not! :lol: I'll keep scraping by with dual 970's until something better comes along t. v. much. [:mousemonkey:2]
 
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hi guys
when is pascal coming out and is it worth to wait?
i currently have budget build pc :)
CPU:i5 4570 @3.2
GPU:gtx 550 ti (i know it sucks)
MOBO:gigabyte ga-B85M-D3H-A
PSU:CORSAIR CX500
RAM:KINGSTON HYPERX FURY 8GB

i dont know much about pc so guys help me out 😀
Thanks in advance :)
 
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Ye I'm wondering if I would need a more power CPU (currently have i5 4460) in the future as some games I play are super CPU intensive and the CPU gets to 80% usage such as Witcher 3 and Fallout 4.

It fine with my other games maxed like Killing Floor 2 and Bethesda's open world games.

Also is it just a guess it will be called the GTX 1000 series of cards because a GTX 1080 sounds odd.
 
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For the naming im thinking nvidia will drop the GTX, keep the numbering
but change it up like

HB170 HB180 HB190 HB170 ti etc

Or if you guys remember, GTX was an extention at one point and carried over, so maybe well see

Ti120 Ti130 Ti140 with the ultra line being something like Ti120 HS, Pro, Elite, Pl(plat) etc.



A big change is coming to architechture and nobody should expect most things to carry over.
Just look at the GDDR5 to HBM on Fury cards, and how basic and dumbed down the HBM1.0 implementation is.
2.0 is going to be crazy.

Also they wont be making 1gb nodes for HBM, and HBM2.0 is supposed to be 1024bit requireing 2 IOs and with HBM lane availability.
The only chip sizes for HBM2 will be 4gb and 8gb,
source: http://videocardz.com/58166/samsung-begins-mass-production-of-4gb-hbm2-with-8gb-hbm2-following-later-this-year


im going to expect the most basic Pascal cards to ship with 8GB HBM vram. with most others being 12+gb


And this will match nvidias stand on 4k and VR going forward.

If nvidias plan for the most basic cards to be VR ready, then no card in the pascal line will be slower then a GTX 970.
 
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