Sony Sued For Removal Of Linux Support From PS3

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oh man not this again. man people are real crybabies[citation][nom]pyroghozt[/nom]Its funny I was reading this same article on Kotaku and the response from the members on that site was quite repulsive and ignorant in regards to this. I honesly hope Sony loses this lawsuit. Operating Systems running on a console is a big step. And taking it away is a big step backwards.On a side note I was wondering if this was related to the rumours about Steam coming onto Linux? If steam runs on Linux and Linux runs on the PS3? Can one play Source games over steam on your Ps3 Console with linux? What are the limitations of the Linux operating system on the PS3 console (Based on Compatibility) and is Sony worried that they won't be able to sell future valve titles because of this?Just a thought I could be misunderstanding something.[/citation]

nope Sony disabled the GPU when running Linux. all linux was running on was the cell CPU.

i can't wait for Sony to win this case and place this loser in the poorhouse
 
[citation][nom]techguy911[/nom]I wonder if the government will get involved the usaf uses ps3 clusters as well as quite a few universities and research companies you would be surprised at how many use it for a super computer list is very large.just a small list to show you how many use it:USAFUS ArmyDr. Gaurav Khanna UMASSDr. Lior Burko, a physicist and professor at UA Huntsvilleand about 300 more universities and research scientists across the world.You can't sell something and remove a feature that is advertised in my country there are laws about that and others too.So if this hack was so bad why is there no mass piracy why because it does not allow you to copy games or open up ps3 to do it.[/citation]

why are people so stupid when it comes to thiS?

These companies have no reason to upgrade the firmware on the PS3 and sony does not force updates on you so next time check wikipedia before posting something
 
[citation][nom]techguy911[/nom]I wonder if the government will get involved the usaf uses ps3 clusters as well as quite a few universities and research companies you would be surprised at how many use it for a super computer list is very large.just a small list to show you how many use it:USAFUS ArmyDr. Gaurav Khanna UMASSDr. Lior Burko, a physicist and professor at UA Huntsvilleand about 300 more universities and research scientists across the world..[/citation]

Saddly, most of them may not care about the new firmware update, since they either can survive without PSN or they are not supposed to link to PSN anyway (like the USAFU, US Army).

Good move for the class action suit
 
[citation][nom]aiurjhjwhn[/nom]Certain elements of EULA are not valid when used to perform certain activities that are considered universally immoral.The primary examples of this are cases where the EULA violates the law, but any case where the business is deliberately deceitful as to the value of their product (such as scammers who sell nothing or worthless stuff for good money) could also count.Basically: Just because your EULA says you can, doesn't mean you can violate a overruling law.[/citation]

Exactly right, Its like getting someone to sign a contract that says they will be your slave for the next 30 years, A contract is only valid if it isn't against the law. and as far as I know, slavery is illegal in most countries >.>, so just because your EULA says "we claim the rights to your soul by accepting this agreement" doesn't mean they can. Quite a few Eula's aren't worth the paper they aren't printed on.
 
Yep Eula's are worthless. The simple truth of the matter is that people may still sue on the grounds that they did not understand what they were signing/agreeing to. Eula's are simply there to avoid as many lawsuits as possible.
 
[citation][nom]climber[/nom]I wonder if I have my original receipt from futureshop? lol Sony will not be paying us 1st gen PS3 users a dime compensating us for removing capabilities of something we bought. However, I do agree it's like buying a car and at the 1st semi annual inspection, when you think your lube oil and filter change is what you're get, instead you're having the leather interior replaced by vinyl, the a/c removed and the spare tire gone too, and we're supposed to thank a business for it. This is not just a Sony issue, any and all Coporations are trying to wring every last cent out of us consumers, it's like a workout tape..... "feel the burn...errr squeeze!"[/citation]

If you bought it at futureshop you'll have to start your own lawsuit. This is a US lawsuit that may influence Candian courts but would not apply to Candian owners.
 
I think nobody would consider this a big deal if sony let you use your old firmware without losing the features you paid for in the first place, but they sell you a set of key features along with the HW, then say they will remove one of those and if you disagree, you will lose a different feature, so they are giving you no choice but lose features with the upgrade - and thats where they stepped over the line
 
@Techguy. All those research/military institutions will retain the ability to use Linux on their systems, just like all of us.

The difference is, we can't access the PSN without the most recent update that removes Linux functionality.

So the USAF etc etc will only be influenced if they are using massive amounts of PS3s to access online gaming. Which they aren't. They are using the hardware to link them all together like a collective hive that con process alot of information very quickly.

Certainly the extent of these experiments the military are doing and they wouldn't expose the PS3s to any networks outside the facility which they are contained in.
 
Awesome! So basically, the multi-million dollar settlement will come in........ and you'll all get $5 in the mail, while the lawyers walk away rich.

WHY DO PEOPLE START CLASS-ACTION SUITS?
 
To the guy who said he worked as an ISP tech support. Is that supposed to mean something? When I hear that only two words come to mind. "F**king Idiots". Seriously, I would not be bragging about that. Not to mention even if your high level tech support doesn't mean you know shit about laws. It's be like saying since I'm in the army I know all federal laws, or since I worked in rv's I know all the road laws, and how to find all the loopholes.

There's a reason lawyers have a job. It's to understand, and know how all the bullshit that get put into laws, and how to use it to their advantage.

This is one of the few lawsuits that I actually think have merit; simply because I think what sony did was down right underhanded, dirty, and plain foolish of them to do.

But anyways the best the class could hope for would not have it be drugged out for years, as that is a basic princpal everybody probably knows. Big corporations have no problems, making law suits take years to finish. It just depends on if Sony thinks it's worth the fight. If not they'll either put back in the "other os" feature or give some stupid rebates as a settlement. If they do the ps5 will probably be out before the suit actually ends.
 
[citation][nom]TemjinGold[/nom]We can because that was part of what was sold to us. Sony is disabling it on units it already sold. Basically if you bought a TV and the manufacturer one day decides to break into your house and take the remote back...[/citation]
except it's not something physical along with the new ps3 already did not have that support, sony could easily go with it's either remove the other os option or get a new system as we no longer will support the old one. Removing functionality of a program has been done before i'm fairly sure. Zessh just hack your ps3 it's what your likely doing with it anyways, also it matters what the terms and agreement are upon purchase i'm sure sony added a protection clause with it's produce about such a manner when you first boot up your ps3 and get an update.
 
[citation][nom]otacon72[/nom]Sony Defense Attorny: "It clearly states in our Terms of Service that Sony has the right to...etc etc etc....when the plantiffs purchased the PS3 they agreed to these terms"[/citation]

Sorry but EULA or any other kind of terms of service are well below law.
(and its well written there as well)
And there are laws to protect customers from companies to change way you can use. In some cases you could even get back full refund when this kind of s***t happen.

 
all the folks that claim research/military and other scientific users of the playstation do not need to upgrade to the latest FW and thus their complaint is moot, please consider this:

The PS was sold with all of the options available to the purchaser: gaming, video, other os etc... now you have to pick a subset of these you can use after the upgrade or without the upgrade, there is not way to keep using all the features you paid for. THAT's the issue and I think Sony will have to pay.
 
[citation][nom]RazberyBandit[/nom]I love the fact that someone decided to take a stand...[/citation]
Lawyers did. :)
It's an opportunity to make money, whether morally justified or not.
 
i installed yellow dog and it was horrible. im not exactly sure what the outrage is....99.9 percent of ps3 owners dont use this feature....and most of those people used it to boot emulators and find ways to pirate. this was something sony didnt have to include in the first place. you didnt buy a ps3 to run linux (save the sparse amount of people needing the cell to crunch numbers. youll get a smoother running linux machine with that old pentium 3 sitting in your garage.
 
[citation][nom]TemjinGold[/nom]We can because that was part of what was sold to us. Sony is disabling it on units it already sold. Basically if you bought a TV and the manufacturer one day decides to break into your house and take the remote back...[/citation]

:) I thought they did this 4 only new ones. Thanks 4 da info 😉
 
[citation][nom]nebun[/nom]If someone wants to use Linux the they should build or purchase a freaking PC. PS3 is a gaming machine not a computer...wtf?[/citation]

The PS3 was sold as a Games console that could play Blu-Ray and run Linux. Sony have removed part of it's original advertised functionality, they are in breach of laws in Europe and may be in breach of laws in the US, it is for the court to decide not you.
 
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