Stress Test MK II

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No, it's because AMD is failing to equally do all tasks at once. The AMD is congesting it's instruction queue for the Divx encoding processing thread.

The AMD X2 may need a redesign to fix this major fault.

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I take it you have no idea what you are talking about, no? Why don't you reply to my post, where I quoted you and answer the questions?

Stop flame baiting! :lol:

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No, it's because AMD is failing to equally do all tasks at once. The AMD is congesting it's instruction queue for the Divx encoding processing thread.

The AMD X2 may need a redesign to fix this major fault.
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NO IT'S NOT WHAT IS HAPPENING

If you install auto Gordian knot you 'll realise that when you starting encoding a movie it sets <b>LOW PRIORITY</b> to their process - That is what is going on

If you want to see Real World Divx/Xvid encoding benchs, plz reffers to: <A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2410&p=6" target="_new">http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2410&p=6</A>
 
Oh lordy lordy, X2s are faulty! oh who will save us! lol

this is pretty funny. I see the fanboys are still out in force. This is just liek the last time, amd gets no respect no matter what the result. and fo course when there is any sign of problem we hear some crying for a recall of all things lol. lets all take a deep breath before making such wild claims.

there are more thena few problems with this stress test, just like there were last time. many inaccuracies and strange occurances that are unexplained. its nice for them that they can just start a 'test' and not have to explain themselves.

but im not going to get worked up over it, i think ill prefer to trust the body of testing results from the majority of reputible sites out there and not this one test that is questionable as usual.
 
but im not going to get worked up over it, i think ill prefer to trust the body of testing results from the majority of reputible sites out there and not this one test that is questionable as usual.
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So ignore the negative and only see the positives?

I also agree it wil be intersting to heard the conclusion of the tests, but I would also like the see some human comments from the test team during it.

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Lol, Tom's Hardware Bribe at it's best.

I'm just wondering, why cant they run useful applications, like Prime95 and that sort of applications instead? Then all that power wouldn't go to waste...
 
It seems AMD is failing the workload.

If you examine the inabilities of the AMD to do all four tasks equally, it appears that the AMD is getting congested with it's instruction queue for the difficult task of Divx encoding and the instructions for the other tasks are taking its command.

The Intel is equally doing all tasks, but the AMD is failing to balance the load of the multitasking. This could indicate that AMD maybe the worse in a server environment as one task maybe abandoned whilst others get somewhat faster attention. This is a major hit on AMD's poor design.
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Lol, poor design? AMD is the one that has properly designed a dual-core cpu, not just stitched two cores together...
 
I would also like the see some human comments
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<A HREF="http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=1606124&frmKeyword=&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear" target="_new">Here is some non biased human comments for you.</A>

I think that you should make some post there, to correct errors in their ways.. :wink:
 
For one thing, how can you conclude anything general about the X2 or 840 from this single test using one chip of each? that is the absolute worst scientific method ive ever heard of. Before I start running around cliaming the X2s are faulty as you say or to say anything about the 840s, I gather data from more then a singel source. show me any other sources that agree with your conclusion...


I actually work in a business that can make use of the added power of dual core and luckily they are open enough to not be hooked on dell, so we have several opteron systems running. Do you really think any business IT is going to look at one 'stress test' from a shaky source as evidence that a product is faulty when so many other seperate sources contridict that?

this is nothing conclusive, there are sooo many varibles that you have to admit you cant be sure any of this is a general observation of X2s or 840s. dont jump to conclusions, otherwise you just sound like you WANT to find fault with X2s. How about examaning the test method instead.
 
For one thing, how can you conclude anything general about the X2 or 840 from this single test using one chip of each? that is the absolute worst scientific method ive ever heard of. Before I start running around cliaming the X2s are faulty as you say or to say anything about the 840s, I gather data from more then a singel source. show me any other sources that agree with your conclusion...
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It better to take into account all test and methods. But it's wrong to ignore the negative results and only see the positive.

One thing we all can say, this test is showing a major issue with the AMD X2 and I'm correct to put into question if the AMD X2 is FAULTY.

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you are ignoring the evidence provided to you. it is not the x2 that is faulty, it is windows. windows sees four processors for intel, and thus it assigns tasks equally. it only sees two processors for amd and thus is not able to manage the tasks properly. if it wasnt for microsoft's lame os, intel would never even have used ht cause it only corrects microsoft's inability to properly multi thread. but please, youre gonna ignore this and go on rambling.
 
you are ignoring the evidence provided to you. it is not the x2 that is faulty, it is windows. windows sees four processors for intel, and thus it assigns tasks equally. it only sees two processors for amd and thus is not able to manage the tasks properly.
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So you're advocating that customers of AMD's X2 avoid using Windows?

Sorry but to me this is a fault. Even if they can repair it with software, the X2 is not doing to well, sorry.

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The x2 is not doing well? How about checking out the reviews where the x2 beats intel in almost every single benchmark, and then lets compare the amount of power the intel uses. nobody is going to run 4 threads at a time, and the few who might arent going to be using x2s or windows. you just dont get what multi threading is. ht doesnt add performance to intel, it just tricks windows into spreading the tasks equally. since windows cant spread tasks equally with less processors available, it will put processes on hold.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by julius on 06/05/05 00:22 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
it will put processes on hold.
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Actually, what Windows does is give secondary, tertiary, etc tasks a lower priority. That way, the task you are focusing on gets the most cpu usage. For those of us who now how to set our own priorities, it doesn't matter. For joe Q, he wants to see what he is doing, move quickly.
For gaming, it helps, because things like virus scan etc get less cpu time.
As far as I can tell, it looks like HT is taking frames from the game to use for Divx. That is bad for me.
The Intel system is doing quite well since for almost 25% of it's up time, it was idling. Too bad it cant stay running for more than 16 hrs at max usage.
 
I know, I have become so tired of all these bastards with there, "Intel is more stable than AMD." Yeah, that hasn't been true since at least the K7. (Thats about the time I started to care about computer hardware.)
 
So you're advocating that customers of AMD's X2 avoid using Windows?

Sorry but to me this is a fault. Even if they can repair it with software, the X2 is not doing to well, sorry.
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Really, of all your posts in this topic, you seem to completely ignore the point.

The reason for the DivX problems lies in the OS, which is having trouble dividing the load of four processes into the two cores of the AMD.

Now, the only reason Intel doesnt have this "fault" as you call it, is because of the HT.

Now really, you don't need any software patches or kernel fixes to solve this, is all about opening the task manager and raising the process priority of VirtualDub from "lower" to normal, it's that simple. Why they haven't done this already is a mystery, but someone, please hack into that AMD system and fix the priority, since THG doesn't seem to know how do it it...
 
Strange, it looks like FarCry on X2 stopped running a while ago.
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Now they can start yelling left and right that Farcry stopped running in X2, and ignoring why it stopped (they turned it off)... :wink:

Intel has booted 4 times already ? :lol:

Looks like AMD voltages are now ok, also temps are lower but so is fan speed.. i wonder are any tasks running, altough CPU usage is still high.
 
In case that someone believes that Intel 840XE has quiet fan..

<A HREF="http://koti.welho.com/pnystro2/Hauskat_videot/PXE840_Cooling.avi" target="_new">Intel XE840 Extreme cooling. (boxed cooler)</A>

Btw. That 3500rpm in THG test makes me suspicious..
..also those temps, since others got +85-90°c @ full load with boxed cooler.
 
OMG, now that's a noisy boxed fan.

I hope they have som kind f noise protection there, that thing sounded like a jet plane.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by BePe86 on 06/05/05 10:01 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
Intel has crashed an app ? <A HREF="http://koti.welho.com/pnystro2/somepics/cam3.jpg" target="_new">Problems at Intel..</A>

[edit] Or is that "System has just recovered from serious hardware error" notification ?
.....it wouldn't surprise me, except that "recovered" part..<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by HansGruber on 06/05/05 12:02 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
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