Stress Test MK II

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yes lets blindly accept a single test without corberation as the one and only truth about a product. im sorry but i dont share your reasoning.

have i said ignore negatives? no not at all, i just question the trustworthiness of the test. with all the faultiness of it thats clear now, i wouldnt trsut any of its results. if another group wants to do sucha test and get similar results, then i would give it more weight.
 
It now says that AMD has never booted, which is correct.
So they removed that 1 fake AMD reboot, nice.

But it still says Intel reboots (crashes) 2.
Why they removed 1 Intel crash that was real and not fake ?
 
Can't really say anything with your post...
there is a difference in time.
Never-the-less what I am saying is that the counter on the Stress Test Main PAge is correct now.
 
On the Intel page, it is now saying 1 reboot. I dont know if the second one today was actually a reboot, or if THG did a shutdown to change mobos. AFAICR the Intel system rebooted once on saturday, once on sunday, and once or twice today. This wont be much of a horserace, unless they give that poor intel chip a BTX case.
 
I think the reason why they chose those motherboards is because they are a)based on the closest thing to the same chipset available for both platforms(nforce4); and b) manufactured by the same company and, thus, should use components of similar quality. If one system used an asus mobo and another one used an msi, for example, people would complain about the motherboards not being comparable to each other.

I dont think they counted on the pentium XE killing the gigabyte mobo, though...
 
In my HUMBLE oppinion...

This is not a stress test but a thought experiment. -> 1 chip out of thousands produced.

Running with windows and not business minded hardware is ok. -> Most of us use windows and the "same" hardware.

Predictable that Intel does better at encoding when using four tasks. -> "4" processors working on 4 loads. And the windows multitasking ability.

Interesting how much better the p4 does on the fourth task (encoding). -> How much cpu time is that encoding task getting on the x2?

Personally im more interested in ways the 2 pc's fail (or dont) than which one does 4 simultaneous tasks the fastest.

PS: Also personally if I won the lottery I'd pick an x2 due to the fact that its faster than intels alternative at 1 or 2 intense applications which would be the most I would do at the same time. (I'f im just upgrading my regular pc I wont even go dual core until I know that atleast 50 % of the programs I'll be running will benefit in speed = 1 application runs faster ...)
 
Hummm. I went to bed yesterday, there was 1 reboot.. this morning, there is 3 for the Intel.. Fact is, it was showing 0h 1 min.... It just happen!

The mobo had nothing to see with reboots, as I can see. it seem to even have make it worst.

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Actually, I make it 6 reboots for the Intel machine. It was 4 reboots yesterday, then it rebooted and reset to three reboots (actual 5) and now it's happened again (6).

I wonder if they discount a reboot if THG change a component (Like the switch of the MB). And right now it appears as though it's installing something else. Yep, one of the graphics cards has been removed!

Pete

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Sinker_UK on 06/07/05 07:37 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
I think they've just switched MBs again (another ASUS). They're currently setting up the BIOS. The second card is back in. That makes 7 reboots.
 
That'll be 8 now...

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<font color=green>AMD</font color=green> Athlon64, Abit AV8.
<font color=blue>Intel</font color=blue> Dual PIII, Asus P2B-DS.
<font color=blue>VIA</font color=blue> Epia M9000.
<font color=red>I</font color=red><font color=green>B</font color=green><font color=blue>M</font color=blue> Thinkpad 570E.
 
Does somebody has some screenshots of the 2nd mobo? I think I missed the first Asus. Why THG is not writing anything to us? In the first stress they kept writing "UPDATES!" and told how the rigs were hanging on to the test.

Another thing... I think X2 is making a wonderfull performance. AMD was meant to be the "INTEL COMPATIBLE" less expensive-blablabla [-peep-]. I´d never buy something that keep crashing my PC. Comments asside, I *REALLY* would like to know why a *DUAL-CORE* Heats less than a SINGLE CORE Press(Hot)COTT???? Mind you, these are 2 cores at FULL LOAD....

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by sot010174 on 06/07/05 09:43 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
On another note, I assume the Intel machine is off at the moment (even though the picture still has the fan spinning) as the total power usage is only at 345 watts. That gives an indication of what each system is using, 345w for the AMD and 510w (855-345) for the Intel.

Oh, hang on. The HSF, CPU, RAM and one VGA card have been removed from the Intel machine. That'll be off then.

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<font color=green>AMD</font color=green> Athlon64, Abit AV8.
<font color=blue>Intel</font color=blue> Dual PIII, Asus P2B-DS.
<font color=blue>VIA</font color=blue> Epia M9000.
<font color=red>I</font color=red><font color=green>B</font color=green><font color=blue>M</font color=blue> Thinkpad 570E.
 
It's had this (2nd) Asus board for a while now, well, most of today anyway. The board stayed put but the HSF, CPU, RAM and second VGA card were removed so I guess the issue was with one of those.

Looks like it's back up and running, albiet with only one VGA card.

Oh, no, it's off again (9), and there's a disembodied hand messing with stuff.

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<font color=green>AMD</font color=green> Athlon64, Abit AV8.
<font color=blue>Intel</font color=blue> Dual PIII, Asus P2B-DS.
<font color=blue>VIA</font color=blue> Epia M9000.
<font color=red>I</font color=red><font color=green>B</font color=green><font color=blue>M</font color=blue> Thinkpad 570E.
 
Why should they do that? So you can say the machine is stable?

I wonder how much a business would loose with all that downtime.
 
Has any one else noticed the speed reading of the AMD machine fluctuate occasionaly? I've seen it dip to 2355MHz and I've seen it sit at 2505MHz. These aren't full multiplier changes (x12 to x11 etc) so I guess it's the 'FSB' that is changing.

Any ideas?


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<font color=green>AMD</font color=green> Athlon64, Abit AV8.
<font color=blue>Intel</font color=blue> Dual PIII, Asus P2B-DS.
<font color=blue>VIA</font color=blue> Epia M9000.
<font color=red>I</font color=red><font color=green>B</font color=green><font color=blue>M</font color=blue> Thinkpad 570E.
 
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