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Another issue was the extremely slow Divx compression on the AMD system. Both AMD and Intel work with the same software and the applications were started in the same order. The Windows system itself determines what priority is assigned to each application. We do not use any software to influence the priorities of the individual applications during processing.
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Quoted from Update. See, the AMD has faults.

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It happens that it also says, "The Windows system itself determines what priority is assigned to each application."

but wait, even though people have repeated said that this flaw is due to windows, you refuse to accept it. I say recall the intel chip. Running at 80+ C is unacceptable.
 
Did anyone else notice that they changed the mem sticks?
I have no idea what they are using now, but it
definitely isnt the OCZ PC2-8000 Platinum Edition
they were using, or at least seen with the Gigabyte mobo.
 
Porkster you are so biest I am so tired of seeing your incorrect posts.

If I am not mistaken the wattage while the intel was rig off was 345, and now it went to 691 so it is about equal now with only <b>one </b> graphics card in the intel and two in the amd
 
When intel system was OFF the total power draw was at peak 350W. now, when the monster is back its 700W. But the monster has one graphics card less and no farcry running, mayb even something else isn't running on intel right now. So one can definately say that intel system consumes more than 350W... probably around 400 or so... that means the P4 consumes that power (needless to say it's therefore enviromentally less friendly than AMD 64 X2)
 
I did not notice the memory sticks were changed. The must have done that when they swapped the first board out as they have been using those gold ones for a while.

Those temps are not good. The fan RPM is way down. This is the same thing that happened last stress test. The fans are temperate controlled, but the sensor is in the heatsink. The fan RPM is low but the temps are high. This means the heatsink is not connected tightly. They might have not locked down one of the 4 tabs tighly. They pointed out this problem last time and say that after using this heatsink a few times the tabs sometimes have problems locking in place.

The odd thing is the CPU has not throttled yet. It should have at about 78'C. It is running in the mid to upper 80s right now. That CPU is not going to last very long at this rate. Running 150w into something that is not cooled right is not going to be good.
 
I thought they'd changed memory modules, they look more 'golden' than 'silver'.

Could they be Crucial Ballistix?

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<font color=green>AMD</font color=green> Athlon64, Abit AV8.
<font color=blue>Intel</font color=blue> Dual PIII, Asus P2B-DS.
<font color=blue>VIA</font color=blue> Epia M9000.
<font color=red>I</font color=red><font color=green>B</font color=green><font color=blue>M</font color=blue> Thinkpad 570E.
 
The Intel system isn't better on power than the AMD, are you kidding me? The NF4I, the 945, the 955, and the 840EE all need more power than their AMD counterparts (NF4A and 4800+). Every other component is the same, how do you figure that Intel is better on power? The fan running at 2/3rds the speed?

Maxtor disgraces the six letters that make Matrox.
 
Their program to monitor the CPU clocks of the Intel might not be able to properly detect throttling....I know Intel intentionally makes it a bitch to monitor.

Maxtor disgraces the six letters that make Matrox.
 
Wow, both machines have gone back to the desktop..

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<font color=green>AMD</font color=green> Athlon64, Abit AV8.
<font color=blue>Intel</font color=blue> Dual PIII, Asus P2B-DS.
<font color=blue>VIA</font color=blue> Epia M9000.
<font color=red>I</font color=red><font color=green>B</font color=green><font color=blue>M</font color=blue> Thinkpad 570E.
 
farcry stopped again on 1000 runs probably. but noisy hot and expensive beast might just have had enaugh 😀 Mayb it shut down when reached critical temp... keep watching... sometime it might just die to my great satisfaction
 
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Another issue was the extremely slow Divx compression on the AMD system. Both AMD and Intel work with the same software and the applications were started in the same order. The Windows system itself determines what priority is assigned to each application. We do not use any software to influence the priorities of the individual applications during processing.



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Quoted from Update. See, the AMD has faults.
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No offence, pork, but you've got to be the most stupid forum user I've ever seen. Have you ever read what we've talked about? About process priority and multitasking? Do you actually believe that Windows sends the entire programs to the processor so that the AMD selects which to work with, and ditches the DivX because it finds it too hard? Because you sure as hell sound like you believe so.

Do us a favour, quit this forum, read reviews, try to gain knowledge about this delicate subjet, and when you're out of kindergarten, well, maybe you can come back.
 
The Intel machine is off and it appears the AMD machine is on the 'Windows is switching off' screen.


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<font color=green>AMD</font color=green> Athlon64, Abit AV8.
<font color=blue>Intel</font color=blue> Dual PIII, Asus P2B-DS.
<font color=blue>VIA</font color=blue> Epia M9000.
<font color=red>I</font color=red><font color=green>B</font color=green><font color=blue>M</font color=blue> Thinkpad 570E.
 
The AMD machine is now enjoying a (well deserved) rest.

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<font color=green>AMD</font color=green> Athlon64, Abit AV8.
<font color=blue>Intel</font color=blue> Dual PIII, Asus P2B-DS.
<font color=blue>VIA</font color=blue> Epia M9000.
<font color=red>I</font color=red><font color=green>B</font color=green><font color=blue>M</font color=blue> Thinkpad 570E.
 
No Thom has already said the metre was broken when it went high. The Intel system is better on power use so it's understandable you made the mistake.
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What are you so hysterical about, did nwe hit a nerve. Because you're so damn wrong, and here's some real proof, from your beloved THG:


"As you can see, the Athlon 64 family definitely is more energy efficient. One advantage is that the nForce4 SLI is a single-chip component, while the nForce4 Intel Edition is based on a traditional North Bridge and South Bridge design. However, the Intel Pentium 4 or Pentium D systems also consume more energy in idle mode - more than the Athlon 64 or Athlon 64 X2 under maximum load"

Here's the link to that part of the review:

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20050509/cual_core_athlon-19.html

As you can see, there's a facy graph there with power consumption, and just to make myself clear, and to avoid anny more emberrasing posts: lower is better.

You should also note the conclusion of this review:

The performance drawback on Intel's side is something we would absolutely be willing to live with for the sake of the multi-tasking experience, and we don't really expect the Pentium D to have any trouble being accepted by the market. However, there is something that we can't really tolerate: the Pentium D system manages to burn over 200 watts as soon as it's turned on, even when it isn't doing anything. It even exceeds 310 W when working and 350+ W with the graphics card employed! AMD proves that this is not necessary at all: a range of 125 to 190 Watts is much more acceptable (235 counting the graphics card). And that is without Cool & Quiet even enabled.

Here's the bottom line. If we had to recommend a single core processor, the choice would depend greatly on the type of applications in use. <b>But in the dual core arena, though, there is not much that speaks for Intel: go with the Athlon 64 X2</b>.
 
When intel system was OFF the total power draw was at peak 350W.
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No the AMD was using around 400watts when still active, but the test crew stopped the task processing which lowered the power use. I just quoted the stop value of 345watts as there was proof of it whilst readers where able to see the web cam.

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Looks like they're removing one of the VGA cards from the AMD machine.

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<font color=green>AMD</font color=green> Athlon64, Abit AV8.
<font color=blue>Intel</font color=blue> Dual PIII, Asus P2B-DS.
<font color=blue>VIA</font color=blue> Epia M9000.
<font color=red>I</font color=red><font color=green>B</font color=green><font color=blue>M</font color=blue> Thinkpad 570E.
 
Seems like the wires on the Intel cooler
are jamming itself, resulting in the low RPMs.
The guys at THG really have to do something about it,
before they fry the CPU or caps around it explode.

hmm.....now both systems are offline?
are they replacing the wattmeter too?
 
What are you so hysterical about, did nwe hit a nerve. Because you're so damn wrong, and here's some real proof, from your beloved THG:
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A chips power use is only part of the overall power consumption of a system. It's clear that when the meter was working the AMD system ate more power. Even before when the Intel had two video cards.

Maybe another AMD motherboard would help to get the power use down, but this board is using more than the Intel from the data read.

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