Build Advice Suggestions for AMD-based Gaming PC Build ?

[NomadACB]

Hi everyone,

As the title suggests I am in need of some builds for a AMD Gaming Build. I have been using an Intel build but seemingly lots of people I know recommend switching up and trying a AMD Build!!

My Budget is £1000

I already have ample SSD Storage
I have all the peripherals

My games I currently play are Overwatch, Genshin Impact, Ark Survival Ascended, ect (Small Indie Games)

I am a also a (Very Small, part time) Streamer so build would be great to go with that.

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated

Many Thanks

 

[Zerk2012]

I currently have this Corsair RM750x as my PSU

More cores on the CPU.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/dT9fdH

 

[NomadACB]

Wait would it be rude to ask for a AMD build on a budget of £800 with the idea of the games I play and streaming?? Sorry, I just wanna be sure before spending!!!

 

[Darkbreeze]

Were you intending to continue using the 1050 TI or did you intend to include a new graphics card with this build? What resolution will you be gaming at and what level of quality settings are you going to be happy with? What games do you typically play?

 

[NomadACB]

Okay so currently I play Overwatch, Genshin Impact, small Indie Games and most recently Ark Survival Ascended, also a upcoming open world game called Last Descendant!! I game at resolution 1080p and usually on larger cpu games like Ascended i would say aim for at the least medium graphics/settings!!

 

[Wuwu]

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/YsFcxH

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor (£156.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AG400 BK ARGB 75.89 CFM CPU Cooler (£32.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte A520M DS3H V2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£67.98 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: TEAMGROUP Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (£49.53 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card (£509.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£45.46 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Super Flower Golden Green HX 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (£81.96 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £944.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-30 20:29 GMT+0000

I would buy nothing under a 7800 XT / 7700 XT class performance, newer games are getting seriously hard to run even on top end GPU's.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Okay so currently I play Overwatch, Genshin Impact, small Indie Games and most recently Ark Survival Ascended, also a upcoming open world game called Last Descendant!! I game at resolution 1080p and usually on larger cpu games like Ascended i would say aim for at the least medium graphics/settings!!

Ok, but you still haven't answered the question as to whether you INTEND to include a new graphics card in this build or if you were intending that whole budget to go towards CPU, motherboard, memory, case if you choose to replace it, etc?

 

[NomadACB]

Oh my apologies. WWell initially I was saying yes to a new GPU as i assumed if I went for a AMD CPU like AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor then surly my current GPU wouldn't be a fit for it?? or would it?? I'm not the best when it comes to this!! like is there bottleneck issues? is the GPU strong enough? is it compat with the AMD CPU??

 

[Wuwu]

Oh my apologies. WWell initially I was saying yes to a new GPU as i assumed if I went for a AMD CPU like AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor then surly my current GPU wouldn't be a fit for it?? or would it?? I'm not the best when it comes to this!! like is there bottleneck issues? is the GPU strong enough? is it compat with the AMD CPU??

5700X with a GPU like the 7800 XT will be completely fine, you can upgrade to the 5800x3D which trades blows with the 12th gen i7 and the non 3D 7000 series.

 

[Zerk2012]

Wait would it be rude to ask for a AMD build on a budget of £800 with the idea of the games I play and streaming?? Sorry, I just wanna be sure before spending!!!

802 using the CPU stock cooler. Of course the 1K build would give you better performance.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (£213.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-P Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard (£123.48 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory (£86.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card (£334.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: CiT Flash MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£42.95 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £802.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-30 21:46 GMT+0000

 

[Darkbreeze]

Oh my apologies. WWell initially I was saying yes to a new GPU as i assumed if I went for a AMD CPU like AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor then surly my current GPU wouldn't be a fit for it?? or would it?? I'm not the best when it comes to this!! like is there bottleneck issues? is the GPU strong enough? is it compat with the AMD CPU??

There are no issues with that kind of compatibility. It doesn't matter if you have an Intel or AMD processor when it comes to choosing an AMD or Nvidia graphics card, or even an Intel graphics card for that matter. You can use whatever you want as long as it's supported by your motherboard BIOS firmware, and it's generally only very uncommon situations like new graphics cards with very old platforms or new platforms with very old graphics cards, where you might run into those kind of problems.

Pretty much anything halfway decent, that's from the last few years or so, will probably somewhat be "bottlenecked" by the 1050 TI, especially since it was basically the least capable of the entry level cards from it's own generation when it was new. Really only the GTX 1050 was lower and actually capable of reasonable gaming performance. So, I'd really recommend an upgrade there but whether you do it now or later is your choice.

If you can do the £1000 build that would be much more likely to get you where you need to be and I'd recommend reusing your current case if that is the most you can stretch your budget to because then it leaves a little more room to include better hardware in the core components.

 

[Darkbreeze]

This would simply be so far from what you have now that it's literally night and day. More than double the graphics 3d performance and probably pretty close to that on the compute side of things. It also has about 25-30% better performance on the CPU side of things than the Ryzen 7600, which right now is the least expensive Zen 4 CPU you'd really want to even consider unless you were on a REALLY tight budget.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-14600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor (£299.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£41.88 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760 GAMING X ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£174.97 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory (£105.91 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Palit Dual GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card (£255.86 @ NeoComputers)
Total: £878.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-31 03:12 GMT+0000


Or, if you REALLY feel like you need to switch camps and go with AMD, this would also be a good option.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (£219.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£41.88 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX ATX AM5 Motherboard (£180.95 @ NeoComputers)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory (£107.62 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Palit Dual GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card (£255.86 @ NeoComputers)
Total: £806.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-31 03:18 GMT+0000


And I'd forego any changes to the case right now unless you come into a magical increase in your budget. You can always upgrade the case later if you really want to, but again, your current case is totally fine. Honestly, how much of the day do you spend sitting around looking at the case anyhow? How often does anybody come over just to admire your PC case? The answer is, probably not very often compared to how often you might be thinking "crap, I wish I had just a little more performance out of this" while you are gaming or performing other tasks.

GeForce GTX 1050 Ti vs GeForce RTX 3060 [videocardbenchmark.net] by PassMark Software

Intel Core i7-4770K @ 3.50GHz vs AMD Ryzen 5 7600X vs Intel Core i5-14600KF [cpubenchmark.net] by PassMark Software

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[Darkbreeze]

802 using the CPU stock cooler. Of course the 1K build would give you better performance.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (£213.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-P Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard (£123.48 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory (£86.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card (£334.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: CiT Flash MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£42.95 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £802.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-30 21:46 GMT+0000

That memory kit does not show to be compatible based on either the QVL list or the Corsair memory finder utility. And given the known frequency of Vengeance kits not wanting to play nice with Ryzen platforms, I don't think I'd want to take the risk on a kit that doesn't definitely at least show as compatible. And even if it did, I might not, since Corsair changes the IC selection and rank/row configuration on these Vengeance kits all the time. Even without changing the model number.

 

[Zerk2012]

That memory kit does not show to be compatible based on either the QVL list or the Corsair memory finder utility. And given the known frequency of Vengeance kits not wanting to play nice with Ryzen platforms, I don't think I'd want to take the risk on a kit that doesn't definitely at least show as compatible. And even if it did, I might not, since Corsair changes the IC selection and rank/row configuration on these Vengeance kits all the time. Even without changing the model number.

Using the 6000 memory with that board.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/b/Qk7XsY

 

[helper800]

With new build constraints and the possible reuse of the PSU I would be doing a disservice to leave my current suggestion without updating it. IMO a 14600k/f is blowing most of the budget on a CPU when getting a bit better of a GPU will serve you better for much longer. If you are still willing, I believe that you would be best served by the original budget. The extra 200 GBP goes a long way for the build but it can be cheaper at the cost of being on end of life sockets, which can be worth it.

In my opinion you have a few choices at 1000 GBP. Keep in mind that any of these build can be swapped with an Nvidia or AMD graphics card of loosely comparable price and performance, AMD usually has more performance for the price and Nvidia usually has more features for the price.

Reuse the Haf X case, Corsair PSU, and storage devices from the prior build and do this for maximal GPU performance with AM5 which, if you go by history, will provide a decent upgrade path in the future:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (£213.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£40.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS ATX AM5 Motherboard (£139.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL30 Memory (£109.63 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased For £0.00)
Video Card: Sapphire 21330-01-20G Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card (£507.98 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Total: £1012.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-31 15:35 GMT+0000

Another option would be an intel based build with the same reuse of components:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13400F 2.5 GHz 10-Core Processor (£194.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£40.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£159.49 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (£111.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased For £0.00)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card (£509.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £1017.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-31 15:44 GMT+0000

You can also forgo some graphics performance to get a new case in both builds like so: AMD, Intel. With a lower budget of 800 GBP you will have to forego a new case and reuse the same components as above, as well as, use end of life CPU sockets, meaning no new CPUs that will come out in the future.

An AMD based build for 800 will look like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor (£156.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 White 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£34.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 GAMING X V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard (£104.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£80.47 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound OC Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card (£434.98 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £812.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-31 15:58 GMT+0000

An Intel based build for 800 GBP will look like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (£137.97 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 White 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£34.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock B660M Pro RS Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£111.94 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£80.47 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound OC Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card (£434.98 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £800.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-10-31 16:02 GMT+0000

 

[NomadACB]

Okay!!! Back from a long day at work and oh boy you guys have got me PLENTY to look at!!
Again I say it a lot but really appreciate it!
And yes DarkBreeze, I totally agree with you on the case. For me I couldn't care less if it has led lights or anything like that!
Thankyou for the build suggestions from you all!

I got a question about CPU. As I really am a idiot with this but, why does an i5 out perform in a lot of cases with i7?? is it literally a number or what??

 

[artk2219]

Okay!!! Back from a long day at work and oh boy you guys have got me PLENTY to look at!!
Again I say it a lot but really appreciate it!
And yes DarkBreeze, I totally agree with you on the case. For me I couldn't care less if it has led lights or anything like that!
Thankyou for the build suggestions from you all!

I got a question about CPU. As I really am a idiot with this but, why does an i5 out perform in a lot of cases with i7?? is it literally a number or what??

I definitely recommend keeping that HAF X if you're still happy with it. If you wanted a new case for looks thats one thing, but that HAF X has something most new cases are missing nowadays, 5.25" bays! You want to add some USB-C ports to the front? No problem! Throw one into the front panel 5.25" bay. What about having hot swappable drives externally accessible? Go for it! 5.25" bay! Random diagnostics or fan controls? Your case has you covered, 5.25 bay"! Do you want a computer for your computer, so you can computer while you computer? Heck yeah, 5.25" bay! All of those at once? You know it! 5.25" bay! Man I miss those. As for an I5 out performing an I7, it depends on the workload and which CPU's youre comparing, while an i5 has less cores it usually has similar or with some models slightly faster clocks. So in single threaded or lightly threaded work it could be just as fast or faster than an i7 or i9, the same goes for Ryzen 5,7,9.

 

[NomadACB]

I get you, I honestly love my case and if ever needed a new case I would most likely grab same if possible!!
also thanks for the explanation on the question I had

 

[Wuwu]

The main issue with the HAF X is GPU length, cards are far far larger now.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Using the 6000 memory with that board.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/b/Qk7XsY

They are not the same model. I looked at both, and they are different models. Similar, but not the same.

 

[Darkbreeze]

The main issue with the HAF X is GPU length, cards are far far larger now.

The HAF X supports cards up to 342mm. None of the cards in question here are on average that long. Not even nearly for most of them. Only the flagship cards and mostly only the ones with three fan coolers are usually that long.

 

[Zerk2012]

They are not the same model. I looked at both, and they are different models. Similar, but not the same.

So is the 6000 on the QVL list?
I've never see a complete list as nobody has all memory to test, and never see a list of what won't work!

 

[Darkbreeze]

"6000" doesn't have anything to do with anything. It's not about specifications when it comes to compatibility, it's about configuration. Some sticks are liked by some boards and then you could take the exact same configuration and change the ICs and now it is not liked by that board. And that is the simplest of examples. There are much more complex ones in abundance.

Yes, somebody DOES have "all memory to test". The memory manufacturer. Which is exactly why I tend to stick with G.Skill, Corsair and Crucial. They give you FULL and detailed compatibility because they test ALL of their OWN products for each board. There are WAY fewer boards to test a bunch of memory against, which is in favor of the memory manufacturer, than there is memory modules to test against each board model, which is kind of not for the board manufacturers. Only those three provide full compatibility in a searchable format that I know of, when it comes to what ALL of their own products they are saying will work with any given board.

Board manufacturers, just don't give a damn.

 

[helper800]

"6000" doesn't have anything to do with anything. It's not about specifications when it comes to compatibility, it's about configuration. Some sticks are liked by some boards and then you could take the exact same configuration and change the ICs and now it is not liked by that board. And that is the simplest of examples. There are much more complex ones in abundance.

Yes, somebody DOES have "all memory to test". The memory manufacturer. Which is exactly why I tend to stick with G.Skill, Corsair and Crucial. They give you FULL and detailed compatibility because they test ALL of their OWN products for each board. There are WAY fewer boards to test a bunch of memory against, which is in favor of the memory manufacturer, than there is memory modules to test against each board model, which is kind of not for the board manufacturers. Only those three provide full compatibility in a searchable format that I know of, when it comes to what ALL of their own products they are saying will work with any given board.

Board manufacturers, just don't give a damn.

Not even the memory manufacturers test all their kits of RAM on ALL possible motherboard combinations.

 

[Darkbreeze]

That's true, but, they test WAY more of their kits on EACH board, then the board manufacturers do from each memory manufacturer. Which is why they are the better bet unless you can find confirmation elsewhere, and in more than one case.

 

[NomadACB]

Okay been a couple of days and I have made a decision!!

Its going to be between this build recommended by Helper800;
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor (£156.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 White 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£34.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 GAMING X V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard (£104.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£80.47 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound OC Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card (£434.98 @ Ebuyer)

or

This build recommended by Darkbreeze;
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (£219.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (£41.88 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX ATX AM5 Motherboard (£180.95 @ NeoComputers)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory (£107.62 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Palit Dual GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card (£255.86 @ NeoComputers)

My last questions on this would be
1. The GPU on the first build is scary on price!!! Could I swap the GPU from second build into that?
2. Is there much difference between the CPUs??
3. Are all these parts compatible with each other? So could I mix and match??
4. What's the Life (Future Proof) on both builds going to be like? Will they go strong for a couple of years or 5?? As my current build is like 11 years old and its technically still doing great just a couple of games have punched its last ticket so to speak