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-- snip --
15 Seconds? Are you kidding me? The longest delay I have had with the
tests
over the last four days was the initial connection at 7, that's right,
SEVEN
SECONDS then 1 second back and forth.
-- snip --

You are the only person that has reported Verizon PTT being faster than
the 10-16 second time. SS an I have tried it and had results in the
averaging in the 13-15 second range. I would like to see other people
test it out and report the results.

 

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"SS" <nospam1336479852@wopdj.net> wrote in
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> In
> the cellular world, you can make a number of individual calls to
> convey the information. With PTT, you can make a single announcement.
>

Group announcements I can see if 3-way calling won't work, but I've never
heard anyone I've been in earshot on Nextel make a group announcement....

I suppose I see your point about the 4 minutes. But minutes are so cheap
now, compared to what they used to be. Calling is easier. Pushing that
button wastes everyone's time in the group having to listen to the channel
chatter all day to see if the call is for them, very annoying if the group
is large. To call "Ed", I push the button on the side of the V60 and say
"Ed" and it rings his cellphone. "Ed's desk" rings his office phone.
Noone else hears what I say to Ed and noone else had to be annoyed from
their work to see if Ed's call was for them. They never knew I called Ed.

Just seems we've taken a step back into the Motorola Taxi Radio days....
Those guys in the warehouse have better things to do than listen to the
calls on the Nextel Intercom.

--
Larry

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"Larry W4CSC" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns967DEB25FF9AAw4csc@63.223.7.253...
> "SS" <nospam1336479852@wopdj.net> wrote in
> news:iPGdnSE0ff9NWyXfRVn-pw@adelphia.com:
>
> > In
> > the cellular world, you can make a number of individual calls to
> > convey the information. With PTT, you can make a single announcement.
> >
>
> Group announcements I can see if 3-way calling won't work, but I've never
> heard anyone I've been in earshot on Nextel make a group announcement....

How would you know the size of the audience involved? And 3-way is great if
your target audience is only two people.

>
> I suppose I see your point about the 4 minutes. But minutes are so cheap
> now, compared to what they used to be. Calling is easier. Pushing that
> button wastes everyone's time in the group having to listen to the channel
> chatter all day to see if the call is for them, very annoying if the group
> is large.

I think there's a little confusion here- contacting an individual by PTT
only connects with that user- no chatter on anybody else's unit. Group talk
is designed specifically for that- talking to the entire group.

>To call "Ed", I push the button on the side of the V60 and say
> "Ed" and it rings his cellphone. "Ed's desk" rings his office phone.
> Noone else hears what I say to Ed and noone else had to be annoyed from
> their work to see if Ed's call was for them. They never knew I called Ed.

Another PTT myth- you always here the conversation. Not true- the only time
my PTT is on speaker is when I'm in the car. You could stand right next to
me and never know which method of communication I'm using when I'm not in my
car.

>
> Just seems we've taken a step back into the Motorola Taxi Radio days....
> Those guys in the warehouse have better things to do than listen to the
> calls on the Nextel Intercom.
>
> --

How is it different from listening for a ringtone?

 

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infinitisound@yahoo.com wrote in
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> In my business, I can get things done much much
> faster with Nextel PTT than any other type of service.
>

But, don't you think productivity drops with a whole group of workers
having to listen to 2-way radio calls on their PTT, rather than private
calls which don't annoy them or interrupt their productivity?

The 4-minutes-used on the other post is moot, now that in-network calling
is free and unlimited. Ed and I can talk on full duplex Alltel 24/7/365 if
the chargers are plugged in with no cost to either of us. The money point
is now moot. The convenience and tax on productivity from the 2-way radio
calling isn't. Too bad the PTT phones aren't some how addressable, like
the full duplex cellular calls are so noone has to listen to the channel
chatter....like a damned PA system in the factory, which is awful.

--
Larry

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"Larry W4CSC" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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> infinitisound@yahoo.com wrote in
> news:1119411119.322406.110400@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
> > In my business, I can get things done much much
> > faster with Nextel PTT than any other type of service.
> >
>
> But, don't you think productivity drops with a whole group of workers
> having to listen to 2-way radio calls on their PTT, rather than private
> calls which don't annoy them or interrupt their productivity?
>
> The 4-minutes-used on the other post is moot, now that in-network calling
> is free and unlimited. Ed and I can talk on full duplex Alltel 24/7/365
if
> the chargers are plugged in with no cost to either of us. The money point
> is now moot. The convenience and tax on productivity from the 2-way radio
> calling isn't. Too bad the PTT phones aren't some how addressable, like
> the full duplex cellular calls are so noone has to listen to the channel
> chatter....like a damned PA system in the factory, which is awful.

I can't believe that you don't know that they are addressable. A PTT 'call'
to a single user does not create channel chatter on other units. Only the
unit alerted hears the call.

 

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"SS" <nospam1336479852@wopdj.net> wrote in
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> Agreed. The last thing I need is to hang on the phone for something
> that takes a few seconds to do with PTT. The ability to contact a
> group with the push of a button is also a nice feature. Anything less
> than instant connection is not acceptable.
>
>

He CAN call you back, for free in network, when he finds what you're
looking for. As a matter of fact, he can just put it directly to your
voicemail if you are that busy so you can have it at your leisure....

--
Larry

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chalk.

 

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Big Bob <nolanr*@yahoo.com> wrote in
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> what kind of business do you have to be in where 15
> seconds are a life or death matter?
>

Any business where you are standing in front of an important client waving
large bags of cash at you and HE has to wait those 15 seconds, which appear
as years as he scowls at you, thinking about taking his business
elsewhere....that's where.

--
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However you have to hope that your NEXTEL works when you need it. It's a
very poor antiquated system . They are overloaded with Boost Mobile. Funny
thing happened today for example. I was sitting right next to a current
Nextel user. I'm sure you are extremely aware of the annoying Nextel noise
that the phone makes when the system is screwed up and you can't get
through. Well there I am just PTT away with my new Verizon VX4700. The
call was going through just smoothly as it has the last four days that I had
it activated. No busy signals! No User Not Available messages. No stand by
while the Nextel user your trying to reach is located. I'm sure all you
Nextel users all heard that before! My calls just go right on through the
way a service that I am paying for should. I am very sure that there is
going to be a big pile of JUNK NEXTEL'S somewhere soon. Just wait till
Verizon starts the advertising campaign again. LOL!!!


"SS" <nospam1336479852@wopdj.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Larry W4CSC" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns967CCA25296Dw4csc@63.223.7.253...
>> "Jimmie James" <james@james.com> wrote in
> news:eNKte.5577$R6.5255@trndny04:
>>
>> > CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW!!! 2 Thumbs Up for Verizon!!!
>> >
>> >
>>
>> One more question....please.
>>
>> Why would anyone, on any company, use a PTT walkie talkie, even if it
>> worked perfect, holding a perfectly-great-working FULL DUPLEX telephone
>> in
>> their hands with a built-in speakerphone?? Is this some kind of retro
>> novelty or trend-setting statement?
>>
>> I've been using PTT on ham and 2-way radios since 1957. I was 11, by the
>> way. I don't see why anyone would want to use it...
>>
>
> Try this- you need to contact an associate to get numbers for a
> presentation
> and you are not at your desk. You contact your associate (who is also not
> at
> his desk) and he says he'll get them for you as soon as he returns. Once
> at
> his desk, he contacts you to get specifics and contacts you an hour later
> with the numbers.
>
> In the cellular world, you have each burned a minimum of 4 minutes of call
> time to accomplish this simple task. Multiply this by a fair number of
> these calls a month and you have effectively burned through most of your
> plan minutes. Last I knew, Nextel billed PTT in 6 second increments,
> which
> means that the 4 minutes of cellular could be as little as 1 minute of PTT
> time or less. Much more cost effective.
>
> Now, take the same situation, except that your associate is at his desk
> and
> you need the numbers absolutely ASAP. He takes the time to find the
> numbers
> while you wait.
>
> In the cellular world, you are again spending minutes, only this time most
> of them are spent on an unproductive hold. With PTT, your phone is only
> tied up and billed when you are actually using it.
>
> Finally, take the scenario a step further and you have to report the
> numbers
> to a group of company executives (remember, you are not at your desk). In
> the cellular world, you can make a number of individual calls to convey
> the
> information. With PTT, you can make a single announcement.
>
> Despite your own lack of understanding of the efficiencies, it is actually
> a
> very effective tool in the business world. The fact that the technology
> is
> not cutting edge has no bearing on its usefullness.
>
>

 

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"Jimmy D" <james@anon.com> wrote in message
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> However you have to hope that your NEXTEL works when you need it. It's a
> very poor antiquated system . They are overloaded with Boost Mobile.
Funny
> thing happened today for example. I was sitting right next to a current
> Nextel user. I'm sure you are extremely aware of the annoying Nextel
noise
> that the phone makes when the system is screwed up and you can't get
> through. Well there I am just PTT away with my new Verizon VX4700. The
> call was going through just smoothly as it has the last four days that I
had
> it activated. No busy signals! No User Not Available messages. No stand
by
> while the Nextel user your trying to reach is located. I'm sure all you
> Nextel users all heard that before! My calls just go right on through the
> way a service that I am paying for should. I am very sure that there is
> going to be a big pile of JUNK NEXTEL'S somewhere soon. Just wait till
> Verizon starts the advertising campaign again. LOL!!!
>
>

Actually, I have rarely (count them on one hand) had that kind of a problem
with a Nextel phone. I have used the PTT for thousands of hours with only a
few instances of a busy network. The only problem has been living on the
very edge of coverage, which isn't their fault.

VZW will never cut into the market- most of the people using Nextel PTT
can't afford to replace the cheap and fragile VZW phones every other week.

 

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Maybe when it works!!!
<infinitisound@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Very well said but from the financial side of things, Verizon attempts
> to compete by having free in network calls. Nextel has unlimited
> direct connect. So the competitive business makes the prices go down.
>
> I think the problem with Verizon PTT is people don't understand the
> need for PTT. People that think Verizon PTT is adequte are people that
> don't really need PTT. In my business, I can get things done much much
> faster with Nextel PTT than any other type of service.
>

 

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Right on Pal!!!


"iRadioChicago" <iradiochicago@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> The Bottom line is Nextel cell service has been getting worse every year
> ( I had them for ten ) Most people I talk to with Nextel state that the
> novelty of it has gone away. With the price of cell minutes going down
> using the cell part of the phone is more logical. Sorry Nextel but I tried
> and I for one cannot take CALL FAILED or USER BUSY IN DATA no more... - Me
> "Jimmy D" <james@anon.com> wrote in message
> news:%g2ue.10635$tG.241@trnddc05...
>> Ok, I have had the Verizon PTT for three days. The PTT works flawlessly.
>> No garbled transmissions yet. Works everywhere that I have went over the
>> last three days. Phila, NJ and DE. Can't say that for the Nextel I had
>> for the last 5 years. I am very satisfied with the PTT and recommend
>> that all Nextel users give the Verizon 15 day trial a try. I believe you
>> too will not be disappointed and will make the switch. Don't knock it
>> till you try it!!!!!
>>
>>
>> "Jimmy D" <jimmyd@anon.com> wrote in message
>> news😛hyte.21723$qr1.8628@trndny07...
>>> Well I finally made the switch from Nextel to Verizon. Here is the
>>> deal......
>>>
>>> Verizon's initial connect time is approximately 2 Seconds then nearly
>>> instant after that. I can use it in my house. Big plus over Nextel as
>>> I would have no service displayed on the screen most of the time.
>>> Verizon PTT is by far HANDS DOWN Clearer than Nextel.
>>>
>>> 2 THUMBS UP to Verizon. Great job. IMHO once Verizon advertises their
>>> PTT and people see that it is much improved over their first rollout I
>>> believe that Nextel will lose market share quickly. Go VERIZON!!!
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

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15 Seconds? Are you kidding me? The longest delay I have had with the tests
over the last four days was the initial connection at 7, that's right, SEVEN
SECONDS then 1 second back and forth. Maybe when the Verizon service first
came out in 2003 you had a 15 second delay between transmissions, but not
now. You need to be a little more informed before you make false statements
like that.

<infinitisound@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> -- snip --
> Don't knock it till you try
> it!!!!!
> -- snip ---
>
> I did try it so I will knock it. 15 seconds connect time just does not
> cut it for people who need a true PTT.
> The verizon ptt is not meant for serious customers who need a true PTT.
> Verizon knows this too and thats why you don't see commercials and
> marketing campaigns that show off the PTT.
>

 

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"Jimmy D" <james@anon.com> wrote in message
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> 15 Seconds? Are you kidding me? The longest delay I have had with the
tests
> over the last four days was the initial connection at 7, that's right,
SEVEN
> SECONDS then 1 second back and forth. Maybe when the Verizon service
first
> came out in 2003 you had a 15 second delay between transmissions, but not
> now. You need to be a little more informed before you make false
statements
> like that.
>

This thread made me stop by a Verizon store on the way home tonight. The
first test had an initial setup time of 16 seconds. The second test had a
setup of 10 seconds, but that involved physically dialing the second phone
(from the time the phone actually dialed until the second phone rang). The
third test went back to PTT and took 13 seconds to connect.

Morale of the story- why spend longer to set up a one way connection when
you can have a full duplex connection in less time? PTT on Verizon has no
benefit.

 

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"Jimmy D" <james@anon.com> wrote in message
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> Ok, I have had the Verizon PTT for three days. The PTT works flawlessly.
> No garbled transmissions yet.


Hummmmmmmmm NO GARBLED TRANSMISSIONS "YET".. YET YET?? wait till they have
10 users on the PTT System at one time (smile)

 

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jwood wrote:
> "Jimmy D" <james@anon.com> wrote in message
> news:%g2ue.10635$tG.241@trnddc05...
>
>> Ok, I have had the Verizon PTT for three days. The PTT
>> works flawlessly. No garbled transmissions yet.
>
>
> Hummmmmmmmm NO GARBLED TRANSMISSIONS "YET".. YET YET??
> wait till they have 10 users on the PTT System at one
> time (smile)

Isn't VZW's implementation VoIP? If so they have
quite a bit of data capacity.

-Quick

 

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Very, Very Well Said!

<dalite01@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> There is no question of whether VZ has the speed of connect that Nextel
> does.
>
> As long as the build-out is adequate for good 800MHz radio coms, Nextel
> has provided intelligible results in some areas.
>
> If there is a need for PTT (or Cellular) services where intelligible
> results all the time, the VZ build-out is consistently more dense than
> Nextel.
>
> I want my weapon to fire every time; even if I have to take the time to
> cock it before use. Just shooting blindly into the air (in order to get
> the first shot [Nextel] ) isn't my idea of self-preservation.
>
> In a large city, where both communicationg parties are consistently under
> tha signal umbrella, Nextel does an acceptable job over 50% of the time.

 

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No it doesn't.

Justin wrote:

> does Direct Connect work between a Verizon and a Nextel phone?
> "Michael Greene" <wgreene63@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:nFyte.111514$lQ3.2772@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>
>>Good, maybe if a lot of people leave Nextel, then I will stop getting
>>all the busy signals. You are the 1st person to like the Verizon PTT.
>>People I have met say it is much slower than Nextel. I once talked to
>>someone in Hawaii from Florida and the response was instant with Nextel.
>>IMHO Nextel's problem is too many people are trying to use their service
>>now. I have been with them for about 10 years and early on their service
>>was superior to any other service in South East Florida. They have to
>>either provide upgrade or have fewer subscribers. Thanks for helping us
>
> out.
>
>>Jimmy D wrote:
>>
>>>Well I finally made the switch from Nextel to Verizon. Here is the
>>>deal......
>>>
>>>Verizon's initial connect time is approximately 2 Seconds then nearly
>>>instant after that. I can use it in my house. Big plus over Nextel as
>
> I
>
>>>would have no service displayed on the screen most of the time. Verizon
>
> PTT
>
>>>is by far HANDS DOWN Clearer than Nextel.
>>>
>>>2 THUMBS UP to Verizon. Great job. IMHO once Verizon advertises their
>
> PTT
>
>>>and people see that it is much improved over their first rollout I
>
> believe
>
>>>that Nextel will lose market share quickly. Go VERIZON!!!
>>>
>>>
>
>
>

 

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Looks like you are in the wrong newsgroup then. Sincerely if you are
happy with Verizon, congratulations. Why post here?

Jimmy D wrote:

> You consider 2 Seconds "MUCH SLOWER" I'll take a two second initial connect
> that is clear than an INSTANT GARBLED Message. I just talked from PA to CA
> with the Verizon PTT. Guess what. Completely Clear with no delay. CAN YOU
> HEAR ME NOW?
>
>
> "Michael Greene" <wgreene63@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:nFyte.111514$lQ3.2772@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>
>>Good, maybe if a lot of people leave Nextel, then I will stop getting all
>>the busy signals. You are the 1st person to like the Verizon PTT. People I
>>have met say it is much slower than Nextel. I once talked to someone in
>>Hawaii from Florida and the response was instant with Nextel. IMHO
>>Nextel's problem is too many people are trying to use their service now. I
>>have been with them for about 10 years and early on their service was
>>superior to any other service in South East Florida. They have to either
>>provide upgrade or have fewer subscribers. Thanks for helping us out.
>>
>>Jimmy D wrote:
>>
>>>Well I finally made the switch from Nextel to Verizon. Here is the
>>>deal......
>>>
>>>Verizon's initial connect time is approximately 2 Seconds then nearly
>>>instant after that. I can use it in my house. Big plus over Nextel as I
>>>would have no service displayed on the screen most of the time. Verizon
>>>PTT is by far HANDS DOWN Clearer than Nextel.
>>>
>>>2 THUMBS UP to Verizon. Great job. IMHO once Verizon advertises their
>>>PTT and people see that it is much improved over their first rollout I
>>>believe that Nextel will lose market share quickly. Go VERIZON!!!
>
>
>

 

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What are you trying to do recruit for Verizon? We are happy you like
your new service. Now, find a Verizon newsgroup to frequent. Can you
here me know?

Jimmie James wrote:
> You say "If you have a SIGNAL". EXACTLY my point. I will take the 7 second
> delay over a garbled no signal Nextel any day of the week. I've been a
> Nextel subscriber for 5 years. Just made the switch to Verizon PTT. Glad I
> did. Two full days on the system with no problems. Everyone is complaining
> about the Verizon delay, and put two phones sided by side, or call one
> Verizon store and key the PTT up and wait to hear the delay first hand. In
> reality who cares about the 7 Second initial delay. If you are going to
> have two phones sitting next to one another why bother having PTT of DC in
> the first place. You could just simply turn to the person and have a
> real-time conversation. I guess what I am trying to say is if the two
> phones are 1/2 mile apart or 2000 miles apart you won't notice the delay.
> How often are you going to talk to a person in the same room with a PTT or a
> DC phone. That is just plainly absurd. If you just want plain PTT clarity,
> then VERIZON should be your choice HANDS DOWN!!! If you want to take your
> chances and have that 1/2 second Nextel DC Garbled connection 45% of the
> time then Go For It. You have been warned from a former Nextel Subscriber!
> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW!!! 2 Thumbs Up for Verizon!!!
>
> "Larry W4CSC" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns967BC69E1A11Fw4csc@63.223.7.253...
>
>>infinitisound@yahoo.com wrote in
>>news:1119298669.085804.165650@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>VoIP is never going to be a trunked radio system like iDen which was
>>designed for it. The iDen hardware, if you have a signal which is another
>>matter entirely, wins every time.
>>
>>--
>>Larry
>>
>>You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and your outlined in
>>chalk.
>>
>
>
>

 

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Michael Greene wrote:
> Looks like you are in the wrong newsgroup then. Sincerely
> if you are happy with Verizon, congratulations. Why post
> here?

Yea. It's one thing to report that you got it and like it
but I found the overexuberance (sp?) over here in a.c.v
a bit odd until I noticed that it's cross-posted to a.c.n.
Maybe there is a bit of an agenda.

-Quick

 

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Larry W4CSC <noone@home.com> wrote in
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> Any business where you are standing in front of an important client
> waving large bags of cash at you and HE has to wait those 15 seconds,
> which appear as years as he scowls at you, thinking about taking his
> business elsewhere....that's where.

OK, but why not just pick up the phone and make a call?

I just don't understand how anyone thinks they are 'professional' while
standing in front of a client hollering into a phone and making everyone
else listen to your conversation as well.

Isn't the most professional thing to make a phone call? This way, you can
speak in a normal voice at normal volume and your client isn't forced to
hear everything on the other end of the conversation?

Most of the guys I deal with, I can't trust them or what they say enough to
talk to them on PTT.

Maybe it is just a moot point, but this whole technology seems useless to
me. We need to go back to the good old days of one-on-one attention, put
down the walkie-talkies and conduct business in the proper way.

BigBob

 

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Larry,

Do a little research. Everyone of your arguments are based on ignorance.


"Larry W4CSC" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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> "SS" <nospam1336479852@wopdj.net> wrote in
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>
> > In
> > the cellular world, you can make a number of individual calls to
> > convey the information. With PTT, you can make a single announcement.
> >
>
> Group announcements I can see if 3-way calling won't work, but I've never
> heard anyone I've been in earshot on Nextel make a group announcement....
>
> I suppose I see your point about the 4 minutes. But minutes are so cheap
> now, compared to what they used to be. Calling is easier. Pushing that
> button wastes everyone's time in the group having to listen to the channel
> chatter all day to see if the call is for them, very annoying if the group
> is large. To call "Ed", I push the button on the side of the V60 and say
> "Ed" and it rings his cellphone. "Ed's desk" rings his office phone.
> Noone else hears what I say to Ed and noone else had to be annoyed from
> their work to see if Ed's call was for them. They never knew I called Ed.
>
> Just seems we've taken a step back into the Motorola Taxi Radio days....
> Those guys in the warehouse have better things to do than listen to the
> calls on the Nextel Intercom.
>
> --
> Larry
>
> You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and your outlined in
> chalk.
>

 

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Archived from groups: alt.cellular.nextel,alt.cellular.verizon (More info?)

Not sure what NEXTEL you are using. I've been using Nextel for 6 years and
have yet to get a busy signal or standby when using direct connect. As for
the User Not Available message, how is it Nextel's fault if the person being
called is already talking to someone else?


"Jimmy D" <james@anon.com> wrote in message
news😀qnue.9377$Wb.8506@trndny03...
> However you have to hope that your NEXTEL works when you need it. It's a
> very poor antiquated system . They are overloaded with Boost Mobile.
Funny
> thing happened today for example. I was sitting right next to a current
> Nextel user. I'm sure you are extremely aware of the annoying Nextel
noise
> that the phone makes when the system is screwed up and you can't get
> through. Well there I am just PTT away with my new Verizon VX4700. The
> call was going through just smoothly as it has the last four days that I
had
> it activated. No busy signals! No User Not Available messages. No stand
by
> while the Nextel user your trying to reach is located. I'm sure all you
> Nextel users all heard that before! My calls just go right on through the
> way a service that I am paying for should. I am very sure that there is
> going to be a big pile of JUNK NEXTEL'S somewhere soon. Just wait till
> Verizon starts the advertising campaign again. LOL!!!
>
>
> "SS" <nospam1336479852@wopdj.net> wrote in message
> news:iPGdnSE0ff9NWyXfRVn-pw@adelphia.com...
> >
> > "Larry W4CSC" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:Xns967CCA25296Dw4csc@63.223.7.253...
> >> "Jimmie James" <james@james.com> wrote in
> > news:eNKte.5577$R6.5255@trndny04:
> >>
> >> > CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW!!! 2 Thumbs Up for Verizon!!!
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> One more question....please.
> >>
> >> Why would anyone, on any company, use a PTT walkie talkie, even if it
> >> worked perfect, holding a perfectly-great-working FULL DUPLEX telephone
> >> in
> >> their hands with a built-in speakerphone?? Is this some kind of retro
> >> novelty or trend-setting statement?
> >>
> >> I've been using PTT on ham and 2-way radios since 1957. I was 11, by
the
> >> way. I don't see why anyone would want to use it...
> >>
> >
> > Try this- you need to contact an associate to get numbers for a
> > presentation
> > and you are not at your desk. You contact your associate (who is also
not
> > at
> > his desk) and he says he'll get them for you as soon as he returns.
Once
> > at
> > his desk, he contacts you to get specifics and contacts you an hour
later
> > with the numbers.
> >
> > In the cellular world, you have each burned a minimum of 4 minutes of
call
> > time to accomplish this simple task. Multiply this by a fair number of
> > these calls a month and you have effectively burned through most of your
> > plan minutes. Last I knew, Nextel billed PTT in 6 second increments,
> > which
> > means that the 4 minutes of cellular could be as little as 1 minute of
PTT
> > time or less. Much more cost effective.
> >
> > Now, take the same situation, except that your associate is at his desk
> > and
> > you need the numbers absolutely ASAP. He takes the time to find the
> > numbers
> > while you wait.
> >
> > In the cellular world, you are again spending minutes, only this time
most
> > of them are spent on an unproductive hold. With PTT, your phone is only
> > tied up and billed when you are actually using it.
> >
> > Finally, take the scenario a step further and you have to report the
> > numbers
> > to a group of company executives (remember, you are not at your desk).
In
> > the cellular world, you can make a number of individual calls to convey
> > the
> > information. With PTT, you can make a single announcement.
> >
> > Despite your own lack of understanding of the efficiencies, it is
actually
> > a
> > very effective tool in the business world. The fact that the technology
> > is
> > not cutting edge has no bearing on its usefullness.
> >
> >
>
>

 

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Archived from groups: alt.cellular.nextel,alt.cellular.verizon (More info?)

Uh, not to be an ass, but if you look at the address, this is going to both
the Verizon and Nextel groups...


"Michael Greene" <wgreene63@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:8Wyue.357$Ru.89@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> What are you trying to do recruit for Verizon? We are happy you like
> your new service. Now, find a Verizon newsgroup to frequent. Can you
> here me know?
>
> Jimmie James wrote:
> > You say "If you have a SIGNAL". EXACTLY my point. I will take the 7
second
> > delay over a garbled no signal Nextel any day of the week. I've been a
> > Nextel subscriber for 5 years. Just made the switch to Verizon PTT.
Glad I
> > did. Two full days on the system with no problems. Everyone is
complaining
> > about the Verizon delay, and put two phones sided by side, or call one
> > Verizon store and key the PTT up and wait to hear the delay first hand.
In
> > reality who cares about the 7 Second initial delay. If you are going to
> > have two phones sitting next to one another why bother having PTT of DC
in
> > the first place. You could just simply turn to the person and have a
> > real-time conversation. I guess what I am trying to say is if the two
> > phones are 1/2 mile apart or 2000 miles apart you won't notice the
delay.
> > How often are you going to talk to a person in the same room with a PTT
or a
> > DC phone. That is just plainly absurd. If you just want plain PTT
clarity,
> > then VERIZON should be your choice HANDS DOWN!!! If you want to take
your
> > chances and have that 1/2 second Nextel DC Garbled connection 45% of the
> > time then Go For It. You have been warned from a former Nextel
Subscriber!
> > CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW!!! 2 Thumbs Up for Verizon!!!
> >
> > "Larry W4CSC" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:Xns967BC69E1A11Fw4csc@63.223.7.253...
> >
> >>infinitisound@yahoo.com wrote in
> >>news:1119298669.085804.165650@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> >>
> >>
> >>VoIP is never going to be a trunked radio system like iDen which was
> >>designed for it. The iDen hardware, if you have a signal which is
another
> >>matter entirely, wins every time.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Larry
> >>
> >>You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and your outlined in
> >>chalk.
> >>
> >
> >
> >

 

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Archived from groups: alt.cellular.nextel,alt.cellular.verizon (More info?)

OK then why to Nextel group also. I don't sunscribe to the Verizon
newsgroup, so i did not know he was posting there. I subscribe to the
Nextel group to read nextel positings. Personally if I want to read
about Verizon, I would go to the Verizon newsgroup.

Zman53 wrote:
> Uh, not to be an ass, but if you look at the address, this is going to both
> the Verizon and Nextel groups...
>
>
> "Michael Greene" <wgreene63@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:8Wyue.357$Ru.89@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>
>>What are you trying to do recruit for Verizon? We are happy you like
>>your new service. Now, find a Verizon newsgroup to frequent. Can you
>>here me know?
>>
>>Jimmie James wrote:
>>
>>>You say "If you have a SIGNAL". EXACTLY my point. I will take the 7
>
> second
>
>>>delay over a garbled no signal Nextel any day of the week. I've been a
>>>Nextel subscriber for 5 years. Just made the switch to Verizon PTT.
>
> Glad I
>
>>>did. Two full days on the system with no problems. Everyone is
>
> complaining
>
>>>about the Verizon delay, and put two phones sided by side, or call one
>>>Verizon store and key the PTT up and wait to hear the delay first hand.
>
> In
>
>>>reality who cares about the 7 Second initial delay. If you are going to
>>>have two phones sitting next to one another why bother having PTT of DC
>
> in
>
>>>the first place. You could just simply turn to the person and have a
>>>real-time conversation. I guess what I am trying to say is if the two
>>>phones are 1/2 mile apart or 2000 miles apart you won't notice the
>
> delay.
>
>>>How often are you going to talk to a person in the same room with a PTT
>
> or a
>
>>>DC phone. That is just plainly absurd. If you just want plain PTT
>
> clarity,
>
>>>then VERIZON should be your choice HANDS DOWN!!! If you want to take
>
> your
>
>>>chances and have that 1/2 second Nextel DC Garbled connection 45% of the
>>>time then Go For It. You have been warned from a former Nextel
>
> Subscriber!
>
>>>CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW!!! 2 Thumbs Up for Verizon!!!
>>>
>>>"Larry W4CSC" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
>>>news:Xns967BC69E1A11Fw4csc@63.223.7.253...
>>>
>>>
>>>>infinitisound@yahoo.com wrote in
>>>>news:1119298669.085804.165650@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>VoIP is never going to be a trunked radio system like iDen which was
>>>>designed for it. The iDen hardware, if you have a signal which is
>
> another
>
>>>>matter entirely, wins every time.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Larry
>>>>
>>>>You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and your outlined in
>>>>chalk.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>