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That is not at all what I stated. Please read my post carefully. I only
stated a fact, that you can use Nextel DC anywhere you can use Nextel Cell,
but not the same with Verizon. I offered no opinion as to which I would
rather use...
"Jeff P" <jeffpNO@SPAMruralramp.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Zman53" <zman53@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:W_Dte.346$Y75.128@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
> > One thing to remember with Nextel Vs. Verizon. Nextel Direct Connect
> > works
> > everywhere Nextel Cell works. The same cannot be said with Verizon.
They
> > still have analog sites around the country and their PTW requires a
> > digital
> > connection...
> >
> >
>
> So you are saying you would rather have "No Service" from Nextel than to
be
> able to make an analog call in remote areas on Verizon?
>
> -Jeff
>
>
 
Archived from groups: alt.cellular.nextel,alt.cellular.verizon (More info?)

I'm surprised you're able to make an intelligible phone call on any
system...

"Jimmie James" <james@james.com> wrote in message
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> Hasn't Happened Yet.......3 Days and not one garbled dropped connection.
> Verizon finally got their act together. Can You Hear Me Now!!! And on
top
> of that I can actually make a clear intelligible phone call. Can't do
that
> with Nextel.
>
>
> <dalite01@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:xGVte.42346$zm.39847@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> > The 2 second contact time is fairly consistent; as long as you don't get
> > the unavailable tone when you start the conversation. or in the middle
of
> > a conversation; causing you to drop connection.
> >
> > The key timing cycle here is how many minutes does it take to get an
> > understandable 5 second voice exchange with the other party.
> >
> > VZ may personify be the Turtle and the Hare revisited, and we all know
the
> > outcome of that parable......
> >
> > "Jimmie James" <james@james.com> wrote in message
> > news:QKTte.7614$R6.3618@trndny04...
> >>I needed to change your numbers a little..........see below. I believe
> >>this is mot accurate........... and you forgot to take into account that
> >>the Nextel failure rate is very high compared that to Verizon. Your 2
> >>second intervals are at optimum performance.................NOT!!!!!
LMFAO
> >>
> >> <infinitisound@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1119330641.588310.159690@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >> .
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------Nextel
> >>> simulation--------------------------------------
> >>> (2 seconds) Person A -> Person B : "Where did you park the truck?"
> >>> (2 seconds) Person B- > Person A: "I dont know, Ask person C because
> >>> he parked it"
> >>> (2 seconds) Person A-> Person C: "Where did you park the van?"
> >>> (2 seconds) Person C -> Person A "Its behind the stage"
> >>> (2 seconds) Person A -> Person B "Can you go get the cables from the
> >>> truck since you are closest"
> >>>
> >>> Total Nextel overhead connection time: 10 seconds
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------Verizon
> >>> simulation--------------------------------------
> >>> (7 seconds) Person A -> Person B : "Where did you park the truck?"
> >>> (1.5 seconds) Person B- > Person A: "I dont know, Ask person C
because
> >>> he parked it"
> >>> (7 seconds) Person A-> Person C: "Where did you park the van?"
> >>> (1.5 seconds) Person C -> Person A "Its behind the stage"
> >>> (7 seconds) Person A -> Person B "Can you go get the cables from the
> >>> truck since you are closest"
> >>>
> >>> Total Verizon overhead connection time: 24 seconds
> >>> This long delay is due to the person having to end then intiate calls
> >>> to different people. The 7 seconds is were a new connection is made.
> >>> --------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I am not a Nextel or a Verizon advocate. I want people to be educated
> >>> in what PTT is and what it is used for and how it should work. If you
> >>> do not need a responsive PTT, by all means, use Verizon. I do for my
> >>> personal cell phone. If you need a responsive PTT, use Nextel.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
 
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infinitisound@yahoo.com wrote:

> Verizon's PTT is the about the same speed as you calling someone up on
> the cell phone.

I have noticed in the past 6 months or so that it only takes 3~4 seconds
to have the phone on the other end actually ring after I press send.
 
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"Jimmie James" <james@james.com> wrote in news:eNKte.5577$R6.5255@trndny04:

> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW!!! 2 Thumbs Up for Verizon!!!
>
>

One more question....please.

Why would anyone, on any company, use a PTT walkie talkie, even if it
worked perfect, holding a perfectly-great-working FULL DUPLEX telephone in
their hands with a built-in speakerphone?? Is this some kind of retro
novelty or trend-setting statement?

I've been using PTT on ham and 2-way radios since 1957. I was 11, by the
way. I don't see why anyone would want to use it...

--
Larry

You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and your outlined in
chalk.
 
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"Larry W4CSC" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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> "Jimmie James" <james@james.com> wrote in
news:eNKte.5577$R6.5255@trndny04:
>
> > CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW!!! 2 Thumbs Up for Verizon!!!
> >
> >
>
> One more question....please.
>
> Why would anyone, on any company, use a PTT walkie talkie, even if it
> worked perfect, holding a perfectly-great-working FULL DUPLEX telephone in
> their hands with a built-in speakerphone?? Is this some kind of retro
> novelty or trend-setting statement?
>
> I've been using PTT on ham and 2-way radios since 1957. I was 11, by the
> way. I don't see why anyone would want to use it...
>

Try this- you need to contact an associate to get numbers for a presentation
and you are not at your desk. You contact your associate (who is also not at
his desk) and he says he'll get them for you as soon as he returns. Once at
his desk, he contacts you to get specifics and contacts you an hour later
with the numbers.

In the cellular world, you have each burned a minimum of 4 minutes of call
time to accomplish this simple task. Multiply this by a fair number of
these calls a month and you have effectively burned through most of your
plan minutes. Last I knew, Nextel billed PTT in 6 second increments, which
means that the 4 minutes of cellular could be as little as 1 minute of PTT
time or less. Much more cost effective.

Now, take the same situation, except that your associate is at his desk and
you need the numbers absolutely ASAP. He takes the time to find the numbers
while you wait.

In the cellular world, you are again spending minutes, only this time most
of them are spent on an unproductive hold. With PTT, your phone is only
tied up and billed when you are actually using it.

Finally, take the scenario a step further and you have to report the numbers
to a group of company executives (remember, you are not at your desk). In
the cellular world, you can make a number of individual calls to convey the
information. With PTT, you can make a single announcement.

Despite your own lack of understanding of the efficiencies, it is actually a
very effective tool in the business world. The fact that the technology is
not cutting edge has no bearing on its usefullness.
 
Archived from groups: alt.cellular.nextel,alt.cellular.verizon (More info?)

For the same reason, Police, Firemen, Drivers, industrial workers,
security guards do.

Ask your self why they don't call each other up on speaker phones.
 
Archived from groups: alt.cellular.nextel,alt.cellular.verizon (More info?)

Very well said but from the financial side of things, Verizon attempts
to compete by having free in network calls. Nextel has unlimited
direct connect. So the competitive business makes the prices go down.

I think the problem with Verizon PTT is people don't understand the
need for PTT. People that think Verizon PTT is adequte are people that
don't really need PTT. In my business, I can get things done much much
faster with Nextel PTT than any other type of service.
 
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<infinitisound@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Very well said but from the financial side of things, Verizon attempts
> to compete by having free in network calls. Nextel has unlimited
> direct connect. So the competitive business makes the prices go down.

All good points. I threw in the financial stuff to make part of the point.
The real message was the amount of time being spent on the phone.

>
> I think the problem with Verizon PTT is people don't understand the
> need for PTT. People that think Verizon PTT is adequte are people that
> don't really need PTT. In my business, I can get things done much much
> faster with Nextel PTT than any other type of service.
>

Agreed. The last thing I need is to hang on the phone for something that
takes a few seconds to do with PTT. The ability to contact a group with the
push of a button is also a nice feature. Anything less than instant
connection is not acceptable.
 
Archived from groups: alt.cellular.nextel,alt.cellular.verizon (More info?)

Ok, I have had the Verizon PTT for three days. The PTT works flawlessly.
No garbled transmissions yet. Works everywhere that I have went over the
last three days. Phila, NJ and DE. Can't say that for the Nextel I had for
the last 5 years. I am very satisfied with the PTT and recommend that all
Nextel users give the Verizon 15 day trial a try. I believe you too will
not be disappointed and will make the switch. Don't knock it till you try
it!!!!!


"Jimmy D" <jimmyd@anon.com> wrote in message
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> Well I finally made the switch from Nextel to Verizon. Here is the
> deal......
>
> Verizon's initial connect time is approximately 2 Seconds then nearly
> instant after that. I can use it in my house. Big plus over Nextel as I
> would have no service displayed on the screen most of the time. Verizon
> PTT is by far HANDS DOWN Clearer than Nextel.
>
> 2 THUMBS UP to Verizon. Great job. IMHO once Verizon advertises their PTT
> and people see that it is much improved over their first rollout I believe
> that Nextel will lose market share quickly. Go VERIZON!!!
>
 
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The Bottom line is Nextel cell service has been getting worse every year ( I
had them for ten ) Most people I talk to with Nextel state that the novelty
of it has gone away. With the price of cell minutes going down using the
cell part of the phone is more logical. Sorry Nextel but I tried and I for
one cannot take CALL FAILED or USER BUSY IN DATA no more... - Me
"Jimmy D" <james@anon.com> wrote in message
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> Ok, I have had the Verizon PTT for three days. The PTT works flawlessly.
> No garbled transmissions yet. Works everywhere that I have went over the
> last three days. Phila, NJ and DE. Can't say that for the Nextel I had
> for the last 5 years. I am very satisfied with the PTT and recommend that
> all Nextel users give the Verizon 15 day trial a try. I believe you too
> will not be disappointed and will make the switch. Don't knock it till
> you try it!!!!!
>
>
> "Jimmy D" <jimmyd@anon.com> wrote in message
> news😛hyte.21723$qr1.8628@trndny07...
>> Well I finally made the switch from Nextel to Verizon. Here is the
>> deal......
>>
>> Verizon's initial connect time is approximately 2 Seconds then nearly
>> instant after that. I can use it in my house. Big plus over Nextel as I
>> would have no service displayed on the screen most of the time. Verizon
>> PTT is by far HANDS DOWN Clearer than Nextel.
>>
>> 2 THUMBS UP to Verizon. Great job. IMHO once Verizon advertises their
>> PTT and people see that it is much improved over their first rollout I
>> believe that Nextel will lose market share quickly. Go VERIZON!!!
>>
>
>
 
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-- snip --
Don't knock it till you try
it!!!!!
-- snip ---

I did try it so I will knock it. 15 seconds connect time just does not
cut it for people who need a true PTT.
The verizon ptt is not meant for serious customers who need a true PTT.
Verizon knows this too and thats why you don't see commercials and
marketing campaigns that show off the PTT.
 
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infinitisound@yahoo.com wrote:
> -- snip --
> Don't knock it till you try
> it!!!!!
> -- snip ---
>
> I did try it so I will knock it. 15 seconds connect time
> just does not cut it for people who need a true PTT.
> The verizon ptt is not meant for serious customers who
> need a true PTT. Verizon knows this too and thats why
> you don't see commercials and marketing campaigns that
> show off the PTT.

Now that you mention it, I'd forgotten about VZW PTT
after the first go round on this group. I can't remember
seeing a single ad.

-Quick
 
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Big Bob wrote:

> I am completely confused. Taking into account all the different ways
> that one uses PTT, what kind of business do you have to be in where 15
> seconds are a life or death matter?

Nextel markets to municipalities and other political organizations that run
emergency services (for example, fire/police departments). In such cases,
you'd better believe 15 seconds can be the difference between life and death.

Now, I'm pretty sure Verizon is aiming more at business customers, and in
99.9% of the cases where businesses are involved you're probably right.
However, I think 15 seconds is an awfully long time to wait to make a PTT
connection. Unacceptably long, FWIW, in which case my choice would be
Nextel, or maybe Sprint. I don't know how Sprint is, but they're supposed to
be much better than Verizon. My brother just switched to Sprint and got a
ReadyLink phone, but AFAIK he doesn't know anyone else with one, so he can't
test their PTT... :)

> Do whatever you want, but understand that you are using an incredible
> technology. The fact that either of the PTT technologies even work
> without any visible wiring is a miracle in and of itself.

I agree. :>

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--- snip ---
Taking into account all the different ways
that one uses PTT, what kind of business do you have to be in where 15
seconds are a life or death matter?
Need sales numbers from an associate for a presentation? Need to let
your secretary know you will be tied up in a meeting all afternoon?
.... etc
--- snip ---

One of my points is PTT is not for everyone. People that utilize PTT
like that there is practically no delay.

It's simply a feature that people like. Imagine that you had a TV that
took 15 deconds to change a channel the first time you click the
remote. Some people could live with it, some people can't. Just
like some people insist on high speed Internet access and others don't.
There are instances where people want to communicate in near real time.

If you don't need PTT, then get a Verizon phone. I have one for
personal use. If you want a responsive PTT, get Nextel.

An important issue of this discussion is that Verizon's PTT is not as
good as Nextel's. Whether PTT is a useful thing or not is up to the
user.

When chosing a provider, one should consider everything including
*coverage in the area where you use it
*price plans
*PTT quality
*cell phone
*connection reliablility
*phone features and durability
.... and the list goes on.

My advice is for the user to be educated. I don't like when people
believe Nextel's PTT is as good as Verizon's. It is not. Try before
you buy!
 
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However, knowing the spectrum that Nextel uses for their service is within
the the 800 MHz public Safety Band, and the ever expanding list of official
complaints to the FCC by Public Safety pertaining to interferene caused by
Nextel.........

I don't see this cause of RF interference to Public Safety to be a good
thing; especially if it keeps public Safety officers from doing thieir job
efficiently; or is the cause of loss of life.........

The 15 seconds (and more) delay is offten caused by lost Public Safety comms
that were effectively jammed by adjacent Nextel exchanges - And you are so
correct is stating it is a life and death matter.

---------------- Much S N I P P A G E ----------------------
> Big Bob wrote:
>
> > Nextel markets to municipalities and other political organizations that
> > run
> emergency services (for example, fire/police departments). In such cases,
> you'd better believe 15 seconds can be the difference between life and
> death.
>
 
Archived from groups: alt.cellular.nextel,alt.cellular.verizon (More info?)

There is no question of whether VZ has the speed of connect that Nextel
does.

As long as the build-out is adequate for good 800MHz radio coms, Nextel has
provided intelligible results in some areas.

If there is a need for PTT (or Cellular) services where intelligible results
all the time, the VZ build-out is consistently more dense than Nextel.

I want my weapon to fire every time; even if I have to take the time to cock
it before use. Just shooting blindly into the air (in order to get the
first shot [Nextel] ) isn't my idea of self-preservation.

In a large city, where both communicationg parties are consistently under
tha signal umbrella, Nextel does an acceptable job over 50% of the time.
However, in real-life situations, the "horseshoes and hangrenades" rule does
not apply apply.

And then there is the Nextel vs Southern Linc issue that we have to suffer
through in the Deep South. There is nothing worse than having 5 bars of
signal and getting a No Service message on the display because of the
screwing that Southern Linc got from Nextel in past business dealings.
There tends to be even wider non-usage areas for Nextel Customers in areas
where Southern Linc is using the ssame Spectrum on their Iden phones
service.

<infinitisound@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> --- snip ---
> Taking into account all the different ways
> that one uses PTT, what kind of business do you have to be in where 15
> seconds are a life or death matter?
> Need sales numbers from an associate for a presentation? Need to let
> your secretary know you will be tied up in a meeting all afternoon?
> ... etc
> --- snip ---
>
> One of my points is PTT is not for everyone. People that utilize PTT
> like that there is practically no delay.
>
> It's simply a feature that people like. Imagine that you had a TV that
> took 15 deconds to change a channel the first time you click the
> remote. Some people could live with it, some people can't. Just
> like some people insist on high speed Internet access and others don't.
> There are instances where people want to communicate in near real time.
>
> If you don't need PTT, then get a Verizon phone. I have one for
> personal use. If you want a responsive PTT, get Nextel.
>
> An important issue of this discussion is that Verizon's PTT is not as
> good as Nextel's. Whether PTT is a useful thing or not is up to the
> user.
>
> When chosing a provider, one should consider everything including
> *coverage in the area where you use it
> *price plans
> *PTT quality
> *cell phone
> *connection reliablility
> *phone features and durability
> ... and the list goes on.
>
> My advice is for the user to be educated. I don't like when people
> believe Nextel's PTT is as good as Verizon's. It is not. Try before
> you buy!
>
 
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Steve Sobol wrote:
> Big Bob wrote:
>
>> I am completely confused. Taking into account all the different ways
>> that one uses PTT, what kind of business do you have to be in where 15
>> seconds are a life or death matter?
>
>
> Nextel markets to municipalities and other political organizations that
> run emergency services (for example, fire/police departments). In such
> cases, you'd better believe 15 seconds can be the difference between
> life and death.


I guess those municipalities don't ask many questions. Nextel forgets
little stuff like emergency generators at many of their sites.

We were recently working at a location that happened to have a Nextel
site in the rear of the property. There was a local power failure. The
building we were in had emergency generators so we were able to keep
working. A few hours after the power went off the Nextel guy showed up
to check out why the site was down. He had the door propped open so we
wandered over. He said it took so long for him to get there because
there were only two people who covered a very large area. There was no
generator and he said that he could go get a trailer mounted unit but it
wasn't a company requirement. The site only had a couple cheepo lead
acid batteries that were sloppily connected. He said they would keep the
site up for 15 minutes. We asked him if this was a typical setup and he
said it was.

>
> Now, I'm pretty sure Verizon is aiming more at business customers, and
> in 99.9% of the cases where businesses are involved you're probably
> right. However, I think 15 seconds is an awfully long time to wait to
> make a PTT connection. Unacceptably long, FWIW, in which case my choice
> would be Nextel, or maybe Sprint. I don't know how Sprint is, but
> they're supposed to be much better than Verizon. My brother just
> switched to Sprint and got a ReadyLink phone, but AFAIK he doesn't know
> anyone else with one, so he can't test their PTT... :)
>
>> Do whatever you want, but understand that you are using an incredible
>> technology. The fact that either of the PTT technologies even work
>> without any visible wiring is a miracle in and of itself.
>
>
> I agree. :>
>
 
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dalite01@bellsouth.net wrote:
> However, knowing the spectrum that Nextel uses for their service is within
> the the 800 MHz public Safety Band, and the ever expanding list of official
> complaints to the FCC by Public Safety pertaining to interferene caused by
> Nextel.........

But they're switching frequencies because of that, no?


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George wrote:
> Steve Sobol wrote:
>
>> Big Bob wrote:
>>
>>> I am completely confused. Taking into account all the different ways
>>> that one uses PTT, what kind of business do you have to be in where
>>> 15 seconds are a life or death matter?
>>
>>
>>
>> Nextel markets to municipalities and other political organizations
>> that run emergency services (for example, fire/police departments). In
>> such cases, you'd better believe 15 seconds can be the difference
>> between life and death.
>
>
>
> I guess those municipalities don't ask many questions. Nextel forgets
> little stuff like emergency generators at many of their sites.

I don't know how many municipalities have actually SIGNED UP with Nextel;
I'm just saying Nextel markets to them.


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This is why Nextel is going through re-banding and is giving up their 800
MHz spectrum.
<dalite01@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> However, knowing the spectrum that Nextel uses for their service is within
> the the 800 MHz public Safety Band, and the ever expanding list of
official
> complaints to the FCC by Public Safety pertaining to interferene caused by
> Nextel.........
>
> I don't see this cause of RF interference to Public Safety to be a good
> thing; especially if it keeps public Safety officers from doing thieir job
> efficiently; or is the cause of loss of life.........
>
> The 15 seconds (and more) delay is offten caused by lost Public Safety
comms
> that were effectively jammed by adjacent Nextel exchanges - And you are so
> correct is stating it is a life and death matter.
>
> ---------------- Much S N I P P A G E ----------------------
> > Big Bob wrote:
> >
> > > Nextel markets to municipalities and other political organizations
that
> > > run
> > emergency services (for example, fire/police departments). In such
cases,
> > you'd better believe 15 seconds can be the difference between life and
> > death.
> >
>
>
 
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On 21 Jun 2005 20:26:31 -0700, infinitisound@yahoo.com wrote:

> For the same reason, Police, Firemen, Drivers, industrial workers,
> security guards do.
>
> Ask your self why they don't call each other up on speaker phones.

Actually many police officers do carry cell phones now since they often need
to call citizens or businesses, and want to avoid the scanner freaks who
monitor the police radios for "hot" happenings.

Not every PD has the new digital radio systems.
 
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-- snip --
Morale of the story- why spend longer to set up a one way connection
when
you can have a full duplex connection in less time? PTT on Verizon has
no
benefit.
-- snip --

You are absolutely right. The 15 second wait is totally not worth it
if you can just pickup and dial and have full duplex.
 
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Actually, Nextel is starting to use some spill-over in the 900 MHz band, but
they will still be utilizing the Public Safety spectrun for their main
traffic.

They had the chance to stop interfering with public safety, and took the
easy way out.


"Zman53" <zman53@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> This is why Nextel is going through re-banding and is giving up their 800
> MHz spectrum.
> <dalite01@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:IYcue.118080$8S5.66425@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> However, knowing the spectrum that Nextel uses for their service is
>> within
>> the the 800 MHz public Safety Band, and the ever expanding list of
> official
>> complaints to the FCC by Public Safety pertaining to interferene caused
>> by
>> Nextel.........
>>
>> I don't see this cause of RF interference to Public Safety to be a good
>> thing; especially if it keeps public Safety officers from doing thieir
>> job
>> efficiently; or is the cause of loss of life.........
>>
>> The 15 seconds (and more) delay is offten caused by lost Public Safety
> comms
>> that were effectively jammed by adjacent Nextel exchanges - And you are
>> so
>> correct is stating it is a life and death matter.
>>
>> ---------------- Much S N I P P A G E ----------------------
>> > Big Bob wrote:
>> >
>> > > Nextel markets to municipalities and other political organizations
> that
>> > > run
>> > emergency services (for example, fire/police departments). In such
> cases,
>> > you'd better believe 15 seconds can be the difference between life and
>> > death.
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
 
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<dalite01@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Actually, Nextel is starting to use some spill-over in the 900 MHz band,
but
> they will still be utilizing the Public Safety spectrun for their main
> traffic.
>
> They had the chance to stop interfering with public safety, and took the
> easy way out.
>
>

I don't know where you've been, but Nextel has agreed to give up its 800MHz
spectrum. They did that quite a while ago. They have already started
rebanding and will be moving to 1.9 GHz in the very near future. I don't
remember the cost to the company, but it has quoted in the billions of
dollars, as they will bear the entire cost of any modifcations needed by the
Public Safety agencies involved.

What is this 'easy way out' you talk about?
 
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