[SOLVED] System Upgrade from Intel with Rtx 2070 to AMD with Rx 6800

[Sumsin]

Hello. I'm not hardware expert as some of you guys. So, I want to have your ideas. I'm thinking to upgrade my Intel system to fully AMD.
Current system: i7-8700, RTX 2070, 16GB 2400 Mhz RAM.
Thinking to upgrade: Ryzen 7 3800X (with liquid cooler), RX 6800
I have researched very much. Built the system I wrote above and inspected virtual benchmarks.
Some web sites say 6800 is far better than 2070, some shows 40-50 fps difference, some shows not much difference.
I will use that system for 2K gaming at ultra settings, multitasking and some streaming but not rendering / video editing etc. I'm not thinking to use 4K.
I'm already playing every game with i7-8700 and Rtx 2070 on 2K in ultra settings. I get 50-60 fps in Assassin's Creed Odyssey and 30-40 fps in Cyberpunk 2077 (with extra reshading mod).
My question is: Can I notice huge difference if I upgrade to 3800X with RX 6800? Or are you saying "don't be ridicilous and wait for few years more" ?
Also I'm completely ignorant that how much a mainboard differs with this system. Should I buy really great one or I can't even notice the difference?
Thanks.

 

[LeiHeJun]

Hello. I'm not hardware expert as some of you guys. So, I want to have your ideas. I'm thinking to upgrade my Intel system to fully AMD.
Current system: i7-8700, RTX 2070, 16GB 2400 Mhz RAM.
Thinking to upgrade: Ryzen 7 3800X (with liquid cooler), RX 6800
I have researched very much. Built the system I wrote above and inspected virtual benchmarks.
Some web sites say 6800 is far better than 2070, some shows 40-50 fps difference, some shows not much difference.
I will use that system for 2K gaming at ultra settings, multitasking and some streaming but not rendering / video editing etc. I'm not thinking to use 4K.
I'm already playing every game with i7-8700 and Rtx 2070 on 2K in ultra settings. I get 50-60 fps in Assassin's Creed Odyssey and 30-40 fps in Cyberpunk 2077 (with extra reshading mod).
My question is: Can I notice huge difference if I upgrade to 3800X with RX 6800? Or are you saying "don't be ridicilous and wait for few years more" ?
Also I'm completely ignorant that how much a mainboard differs with this system. Should I buy really great one or I can't even notice the difference?
Thanks.

DDR5 is coming in early 2022. motherboards supporting that will arrive in 3rd quarter of 2021. Lisa Su the CEO of AMD will talk about future CPUs on January 12 (less than two weeks)
So CPUs will have USB 4 and DDR5 support.

You already have a 2018 cpu with 6 cores. don't you want to wait?
you can get a graphics card though.

 

[Sumsin]

DDR5 is coming in early 2022. motherboards supporting that will arrive in 3rd quarter of 2021. Lisa Su the CEO of AMD will talk about future CPUs on January 12 (less than two weeks)
So CPUs will have USB 4 and DDR5 support.

You already have a 2018 cpu with 6 cores. don't you want to wait?
you can get a graphics card though.

Hmm which one do you recommend? I have already 2070. 3070 won't do much difference. So you must talking about Rtx 3080 or Rx 6800? Can my CPU be enough for them?

 

[LeiHeJun]

Hi @Sumsin , disclaimer : I'm not a gamer. You can see from my build that my monster cpu crushes my gpu under its toes.

What I can say is from reading others reviews, people disable nVidia's raytracing to get more fps. So paying extra for nVidia actually turns out to be unused. However they say for high end cards, they can leave the raytracing on and have a reasonable fps.
Also raytracing games are few (trust me I can't name 5 games with or without raytracing lol) but it depends whether you want to upgrade card again in 2 years, or you want to keep this 3080 for some years? If you're going to keep it for some years, may be nVidia's today's occasional feature will become more available. But if you wanna change it soon, amd's value for money is higher. I can see how nVidia rushed to release 3060Ti not to lose market to radeon. So radeon is not not so underwhelming as Jensen Huang says. (Double not was intended)

Core i7-8700K and GeForce RTX 3080 | General Tasks Bottleneck Calculation | PC Builds

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[Sumsin]

Hi @Sumsin , disclaimer : I'm not a gamer. You can see from my build that my monster cpu crushes my gpu under its toes.

What I can say is from reading others reviews, people disable nVidia's raytracing to get more fps. So paying extra for nVidia actually turns out to be unused. However they say for high end cards, they can leave the raytracing on and have a reasonable fps.
Also raytracing games are few (trust me I can't name 5 games with or without raytracing lol) but it depends whether you want to upgrade card again in 2 years, or you want to keep this 3080 for some years? If you're going to keep it for some years, may be nVidia's today's occasional feature will become more available. But if you wanna change it soon, amd's value for money is higher. I can see how nVidia rushed to release 3060Ti not to lose market to radeon. So radeon is not not so underwhelming as Jensen Huang says. (Double not was intended)

Core i7-8700K and GeForce RTX 3080 | General Tasks Bottleneck Calculation | PC Builds

Bottleneck calculation for Intel Core i7-8700K and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 with screen resolution of 1920 × 1080 pixels for General Tasks.

pc-builds.com

Ok thank you. I intend not to upgrade 3-4 years and play games on ultra settings on 2K . So I want to buy needed card for that. But the difference between Rtx 3080 and Rx 6800 is can be ignored, of course I wish to buy cheaper one.
My other hesitation is either Rtx 3080 or Rx 6800 would bottleneck my i7-8700...

 

[mdd1963]

I'd think it would be hard to find a 2070 as yet inadequate for anything under 4k... (Cyberpunk runs like crap even with a 3090, so, I'd sure not upgrade thinking you will see big gains there)

(Come to think of it, as the 8700K pretty much matches the 3700X, 3800X in most games, short of a 'must spend $2300 by the end of the year' scenario,.... I'd just be buying ammo and primers! )

 

[Sumsin]

I'd think it would be hard to find a 2070 as yet inadequate for anything under 4k... (Cyberpunk runs like crap even with a 3090, so, I'd sure not upgrade thinking you will see big gains there)

(Come to think of it, as the 8700K pretty much matches the 3700X, 3800X in most games, short of a 'must spend $2300 by the end of the year' scenario,.... I'd just be buying ammo and primers! )

In short, you are saying: 'wait' =)

 

[LeiHeJun]

Ok thank you. I intend no
My other hesitation is either Rtx 3080 or Rx 6800 would bottleneck my i7-8700...

You're gaming and streaming. So Cedric is dead said harry potter.