forgetting that the 2800+ is $100 less than the 2.8C, and that you can put a 2800+ in even a Asus A7V (via kt133) still to this day, i'd like to see that 2.8C go in my SDR P4 based chipset which is newer than a A7V.
Yah it gets beat, not by enough to make most P4 users from all 'eras' of the P4 to upgrade... those with SDR ram support, those with pc800 rdram (that is ridiculous to upgrade to 1066 rdram to take advantage of the P4 because other than in that motherboard, fast rdram is simply useless), and of course, those with the old socket format AND obsolete RDRAM.
I understand that a SDR athlon motherboard would not do a 2800 justice either, but SDR ram is more commonly used cross platform than RDRAM by far.
Instead of upgrade my P4 motherboard/ram/cpu (all to get your mystical 2.8C), I'd rather use a SIS 635 (a fast, stable chipset) which enabled either SDR or DDR usage, so you could buy that board for $45, throw your old athlon processor, whatever ram you have laying around and still have a processor faster than what intel had in the equivelent day.
For instance, my P4s SDR (640MB) memory could go in one of those, throw in my 1700+, move over all the components and blow the doors off any willamette.
If I had RDRAM, with this P4 system, there would be NO upgrade possibility short of replacing everything!
I'm fortunate to have the SDR that is swappable.
The point is, it will work and upgrading a P4 is not worth the thought, its near ridiculous to consider and sometimes impossible without swapping out the entire system.
And we're looking at ONE processor from intel, the P4.. not multiple eras like this kind of socket and ram change is supposed to span over.
So yeah, if your building a system from ground up it might work and be pretty fast, but intel is not going to change their ways and your going to lose.
Regardless, many will continue to bow to intel like dogs.
I learned my lesson on this to many times over in the 80s and 90s.
but exactly what am I supposed to do with this P4 1.5ghz with SDR ram? Its slow as molasses and maybe I want a 2.8C eh? I couldve been more lucky and had the chance to take a RDRAM system in the a$$ like intel loyalists.
any of my athlons from kt133->nforce2 will take a 3200+.
The kt133 was paired with a 700mhz athlon originally!
someday you will realize, it was all about the socket A baby.
most of my post has centered on the recent past. but what about the future for intel? the P5? you mean a new faster P4 with another new socket, no 64bit abilities? I'm not excited.
If speed is your concern, thats crazy because its always see sawing and sorry to burst your bubble, the P4/Athlon days are OVER. Yes the P4 pulled a lead right at the end but who in there right mind would consider a 3.2 P4 right before the P5 and A64 release??
Sitting here and saying "yep, those 800mhz fsb p4s really cook!", its really just too late.
And like I outlined earlier above, this late in the game, I would hope to god that the reason for buying a P4 3.2ghz would be as an UPGRADE to a current system, not to build fresh.. and I explained the many follys in the upgrade process for many Intel users.
The big picture is that the P4 is/was a mass disappointment of horrible decisions by intel to many users, myself included.
During the P4, they discovered AMD was not going to allow them to have a monopoly, and intel basically crapped designs until they finally got ahead of a 233mhz fsb with an 800.
Athlon 1700+, Epox 8RDA (NForce2), Maxtor Diamondmax Plus 9 80GB 8MB cache, 2x256mb Crucial PC2100 in Dual DDR, Geforce 3, Audigy, Z560s, MX500<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by kinney on 07/11/03 04:13 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
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