Question The bios stopped reading nvme

[Fiad]

So recently i bought my pc and it runned well for a few months, with no issue at all.
But 3 weeks ago, it started to have blue screens, but not that often, and if i restarted, it runned ok again.
Then i went to play some god of war 4 and immediatly the blue screen popped off. I restarted and it goes right to the bios, and if i restarted again, the bios appeared again, and again, and again.
Only if i shutdown the entire thing and turned it on then was like flip a coin to get it to boot properly, and if its boot, right after like, 5mins it went blue screen again. ( inassecible boot device).

I did some tests, if i shutdown and oppened bios by myself, the nvme will appear in there, but when i hit f10 and restarted, there is no nvme in it.
If i shutdown and try to tur it on, the windows try to boot, but it goes blue screen. After the restart the nvme does not appears anymore.

I've seen in this forum, a guy who have the exactly same issue, and was told to update his bios, and apparently this solved his problems, i updated mine, and nothing, the problem remains. I tried to reinstall windows, but it doesn't show the nvme to format.

I don't know what else to do.

Pc specs:
Motherboard: Asus TUF B450M-PRO
GPU: 2060 SUPER
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700x
Memory: 16GB Adata 2666mhz (8-8)
Nvme: Netac 7000 1TB
Power: Corsair cx650

 

[Darkbreeze]

My guess would be that it's probably that cheap as hell drive. Do you own ANY other drives that you could try installing Windows on to see if you still have issues? If not, then I'd say your next step was to buy another drive and try that out. Whether it's an NVME or SATA SSD or even a mechanical HDD, it would at least tell you something about whether there is a board issue or if it's simply a bad drive. Given I've never even HEARD of Netac, I'm guessing there's a good chance that it's simply a cheap drive that failed.

Just because a drive has decent performance doesn't necessarily mean it has been built with decent quality components and while I know this is a clone of an Acer drive using almost identical parts, I'm quite sure it's not built to the same quality even though they use the same DRAMless controller.

There could definitely be other reasons why you're having this problem but the fact that the drive fails to show up in the BIOS and you are getting inaccessible boot device errors, leads us directly to the drive itself in all probability. If it turns out to NOT be the drive, we can look at other options like perhaps that CX650 or the board, but I'd rule out the drive first.

 

[Fiad]

I'm right now using a standart HD just to turn on my pc, and it's working normally

 

[Darkbreeze]

Then I'd say you have a bad drive.

 

[Maxxify]

So recently i bought my pc and it runned well for a few months, with no issue at all.
But 3 weeks ago, it started to have blue screens, but not that often, and if i restarted, it runned ok again.
Then i went to play some god of war 4 and immediatly the blue screen popped off. I restarted and it goes right to the bios, and if i restarted again, the bios appeared again, and again, and again.
Only if i shutdown the entire thing and turned it on then was like flip a coin to get it to boot properly, and if its boot, right after like, 5mins it went blue screen again. ( inassecible boot device).

I did some tests, if i shutdown and oppened bios by myself, the nvme will appear in there, but when i hit f10 and restarted, there is no nvme in it.
If i shutdown and try to tur it on, the windows try to boot, but it goes blue screen. After the restart the nvme does not appears anymore.

I've seen in this forum, a guy who have the exactly same issue, and was told to update his bios, and apparently this solved his problems, i updated mine, and nothing, the problem remains. I tried to reinstall windows, but it doesn't show the nvme to format.

I don't know what else to do.

Pc specs:
Motherboard: Asus TUF B450M-PRO
GPU: 2060 SUPER
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700x
Memory: 16GB Adata 2666mhz (8-8)
Nvme: Netac 7000 1TB
Power: Corsair cx650

Is it the 1TB Netac 7000? There's one variation of that drive that uses the IG5236 controller + YMTC TLC which has a known bricking issue. You may be able to check by looking at the flash on the drive. It's possible to recover this drive and I know someone who can give instructions but it's more than what's usually involved (i.e. have to short debug pins on the drive's PCB). If you think that's the issue you can contact me/him on my discord server. It might just be a dead drive, though, it happens.

 

[Fiad]

Yeah

Is it the 1TB Netac 7000? There's one variation of that drive that uses the IG5236 controller + YMTC TLC which has a known bricking issue. You may be able to check by looking at the flash on the drive. It's possible to recover this drive and I know someone who can give instructions but it's more than what's usually involved (i.e. have to short debug pins on the drive's PCB). If you think that's the issue you can contact me/him on my discord server. It might just be a dead drive, though, it happens.

Yeah, i saw this innogrit <Mod Edit> everywhere, many people are having the same issue with adata and netac's drives, and there's nothing that solves the problem, i'm thinking of buying a samsung drive now...

 

[Maxxify]

Yeah

Yeah, i saw this innogrit <Mod Edit> everywhere, many people are having the same issue with adata and netac's drives, and there's nothing that solves the problem, i'm thinking of buying a samsung drive now...

It's only specific combinations which aren't too common. They're pretty uncommon in North America at least. Manufacturers are aware and have mitigated by changing hardware or firmware. So it's mostly older drives or stock, which is also more common in some regions where these brands are more common. Samsung has had its own problems on multiple drives so I would not presume. At the moment I'd suggest Solidigm (P44 Pro), Hynix (Platinum P41), or WD (SN850X) for reliability. Crucial's P5 Plus on a budget.

Our friend on discord can show you have to fix it but if you can get an RMA I would suggest that.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Samsung has plenty of problems of their own, on SEVERAL generations of drives. I have MANY Samsung drives, both SATA and NVME PCIe drives, but recently I've been leaning towards and buying a lot more of the Crucial MX500 (For SATA) and the SK Hynix NVME drives. SK Hynix makes a LOT of the DRAM and NAND used on a LOT of the memory and drives used by other brands, and in fact are one of the few that actually manufacturer DRAM and NAND, so it's not like they don't know what they are doing and they've consistently placed very high in terms of performance and endurance ratings across the board.

Crucial pretty much fits that category too since Micron, the parent company, is one of the oldest in the business. I HAVE had problems with three or four Samsung drives, but we're talking out of probably twenty or thirty purchased for myself and client builds. So, not terrible, not perfect either. Have never had any problems so far with any of the Crucial drives (Both SATA and PCIe/NVME) or SK Hynix drives I've bought. Have also had pretty good luck with the few WD NVME drives I've gotten on sale. No issues there at all either.