The iPad is the Gadget We Never Knew We Needed

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[citation][nom]fonzy[/nom]No CameraNo OLEDIt would be a good Christmas present for my grandmother..... if it was affordable like for $149.For everyone else theres a netbook or laptop.[/citation]

Uh, you do realize that an OLED panel in that size would have been at least $400 and the camera could tack on an extra $25 or so. To launch the iPad with a 9.7" screen and a camera at $499 Apple would be losing money on every unit sold. We aren't selling consoles here.

You can't bitch about the price and simultaneously complain about the lack of an outrageously expensive OLED panel. Make up your mind.
 
One of apple's biggest selling points is style, honestly I think they missed the mark on this one, looks like someone threw the iPhone in Photoshop and stretched it. At least to me I don't find it appealing
 
If you could subscribe to magazines and have access to older articles from the subscription for a decent price i think it would be neat ....
 
To recap:
-No flash
-no multitasking
-iPhone OS, not full OSX
-locked to iTunes
-no camera, front or back
-have to buy a dongle for anything remotely useful
-higher price than most netbooks
-Not a true tablet in that it has no keyboard
-screen ratio leaves huge boarders for widescreen movies
-closed App ecosystem, "apple knows best" approach


So basically....It will still sell 20 million copies to dumbasses.
 
[citation][nom]homrqt[/nom]I'm guessing you agree with the article, if you took the the time to post it.[/citation]

I'm guessing you didn't read the 2 other articles I wrote on the iPad where I slammed the iPad. I posted this article because I wanted to provide other points of view other than my own. If you cannot grasp that, don't comment.
 
So apparently you are in the cool group if you slam and trash the iPad but you are a "dumbass" as stated in the the comment before if you find the iPad an interesting product....
You guys really need to get some life...
@Tuan, good job for providing unbiased news, don't mind the childish comments
Cheers
 
What I keep asking myself over and over again is who will actually use this and when?

First of all it's way too big for me to take on a train or bus going from point a to b. A smartphone is about as big of an item I would carry with me at all times.

Secondly if I'm at home I certainly wouldn't choose to do my reading on a 10" tablet instead of a 24" LCD screen. Sure I can't bring my 24" to the couch in my living room but that's also why I've got a 13" laptop.

With the iPod the whole idea was very different. Me and most of my friends in school back then used to lug around compact cassette players to listen to music. Replacing tapeplayers that wore out and got jammed with digital music was a godsend. At home though nothing changed I've yet to listen to music while at home using any kind of portable system, in fact I've not even used them as a source for my main audio system as the sound quality is at most adequate.

In the end I believe this this is one product Apple won't be able to brainwash people into buying. No matter how tech savvy they may or may not be.
 
[citation][nom]Euphoria_MK[/nom]So apparently you are in the cool group if you slam and trash the iPad but you are a "dumbass" as stated in the the comment before if you find the iPad an interesting product....[/citation]

Let me quote a part of the article here:
We can sit here in our geeky little dorkosphere arguing about it all day, but as much as Apple clearly enjoys our participation, the people Jobs wants to sell this to don't read our rants. They can't even understand them.
I don't think it's a big leap to call people who don't (want to) understand something but take part in it anyway "dumb". You have it all in front of you - the gizmo has its drawbacks and the only reason it's going to be successful anyway is because the target group doesn't give a damn about the features ! They're pretty much like my grandma, who views a cellphone first and foremost as a cute little thing that lays shining on the pedestal. Or like people who'd answer "What kind of a car are you looking for ?" with "A red one would be nice".

Unless I have serious problems with comprehending such a simple article - I'd say that it's FAR from being positive...
 
I still don't need a iPad.

This gadget is totally developed using method called "closed mind".
Gadget with no feature (no hdmi, no camera, no USB, no software included (you need to pay more), no other OS, no outside iStore, ect...).

It's a "not ready to market product".
 
It's funny to see people bashing the iPad because it's not the Tablet PC which always existed and nobody cares or loves.

The biggest strengths in iPad is the OS simplicity, the app/book/music stores, the accessories, and the amazing 3rd party games/apps developed. Just think about it, if people made so much incredible stuff with a 3.5 inch multi touch screen, now imagine with the iPad screen.

I'm will get one, to be around in the living room for the ocasional game, web browsing, book reading, and you can call me dumb if you like that. My wife and girl will love it too, a dumb family package?
 
I can understand the need for flash, multitask (even if the OS pauses/resumes apps instead of close/open and notifications or music are in parallel), but HDMI????
 
pupupu, the bright minds love to install anti virus and all the crap software of the 90s, and pretend they code or design something in those stupid small keyboards and crap screens of netbooks. Ah ah ah, I love those anti-Apple fan boys!!!
 
IMHO, the title should read "The iPad is the gadget we all knew we never needed...(but Apple will market the crap out of it until we think otherwise)".

 
I've given this a great deal of thought the last couple of days and I think we have just witnessed the death toll of the personal computer as we know it now as a major consumer product. I think that computers in the work place will never be replaced by a device such as this, but the days of people buying mom and dad a computer so they can read emails and see pictures of the grandchildren that live on the other coast are numbered.

Over the past couple of decades the computer industry has tried to push what is essentially a business computer into the consumer space. They come in a big desktop size bun, tiny little netbook size bun, all-in-one meal size bun and portable desktop replacement size bun. Like a good burger joint they make them any way you want them, plain as can be, or loaded with everything, just as long as it's a business shaped burger inside. Which was fine 10+ years ago when that was all there was to choose from, but it isn't today when people want a grilled chicken salad or a fish dinner.

It used to be home computers where for the younger more technical savy crowd, while their parents, who were part of the TV generation, avoided them as unnecessary to have in the home and were actually afraid of using them. Well that generation of computer adopters grew up and had kids of their own. A generation who grew up with desktop computers and think of them as a natural part of life. Their children grew up with laptop computers as a natural part of life.

The problem is that the computer industry and those computer generations try to find any and every reason to make use of computers. Some weren't satisfied with computers at home, so they made computers that could be taken with us. Some weren't happy with the bulk of those laptops so they invented the Netbook. Some didn't like a big computer case sitting under the desk so they invented all-in-ones. All shapes and sizes to choose from, but still always at it's core was a business shaped burger.

Heck the last couple of years even having one computer in the house wasn't enough. They wanted us to have an HTPC in the living room and a Home Server to collect all the media and serve it when needed. Always though it was taking a business shaped burger and trying to shove it into another consumer size bun.

Apple very smartly is trying to break the cycle of computers as we know them today. Tech types will come up with a million reasons why it is not as good as a real computer. No real Windows or OS X with desktop applications, no expandable memory or storage, doesn't output 1080p over HDMI, not a big enough processor, the list goes on and on. Basically its not a burger and what they want is a burger in another size package.

But that is about to change......

Maybe not by this Apple device, but by some product that takes this tablet device and refines it and improves on it and polishes it to perfection. But the flood gates are open now and there's no stopping the eventual course that this river will run.

The problem is that the generation growing up right now is the handheld generation. They've always played games on handheld systems like the DS, listened to music and watched video on iPods and had Smartphone's before they were teens. This generation is not going to except being told that it takes a big clunky desktop computer or a laptop computer to enjoy the internet, play games, watch video or listen to music. They already know that it doesn't and you could never convince them it does.

So maybe not this year or even next, but once other companies start turning out their own versions of the iPad, and by that I mean devices that aren't based on the business burger in yet another bun, then the days of the older couple going into Wal-Mart and picking up a $489 HP computer so they can keep in touch with those kids and grandchildren on the other coast are over. A few years from now those grandchildren will be carrying these handheld type devices and showing them how easy it is to do things on them and on that day the era of the home computer desktop as a mass consumer device is over. The grilled chicken salad era will start and the burger will go back to being a business item.
 
It took 2 solid pages of text to say "I'm an apple fanboi and I'll like every apple product no matter how useless it is compared to already existing products."
 
dheadley: bullseye, but I think iPad will have make it much faster than you think, and that only Apple could achieve.
 
Sorry for two pages of text, but I am not an Apple fanboy. As a matter of fact I own no Apple products at all. I am Windows 7 user running an SLi rig and use my desktop almost entirely for gaming. In my house we have two SLi gaming rigs, a standard desktop and a HP core duo laptop. I am just someone looking at this in a honest way.

I would say at least half the people with a computer in their house have no need of a computer if there were internet devices capable of delivering a decent web surfing experience and email. They don't need a full OS like windows. They don't need Nvidia GPU's. They most certainly don't need Core i7 processors. Not now, not ever, for the things they do.
 
People who love Apple products will buy this, even if there are numerous devices that are superior in every way for less money.

I read somewhere that some psychologists compare the love for Apple to the Stockholm Syndrome.

My employer is one of these people. He told me today that he just can't wait to get his hands on one of these bad boys. His words not mine.

He asked me if this was the apple product that was going to convert me. I said "no but thanks to all the press, it did open my eyes to other small tablets that run windows 7, have usb ports and can do most everything a real computer can do..... I then told him everything that an Archos 9 can do. He said " do you really need to do all of that"?

I will be buying an archos 9 before my next vacation. It will make the 6 hour plane ride more bearable. Two words "replaceable battery"

You have to hand it to Apple, they sure can sell products.

Here is a good read

Google this.
How will psychologists describe the iPhone syndrome in the future?

 
heh I've seen a number of complaints about this product. Would this finally be the first apple product I actually buy? I mean seriously folks, do people have to complain about everything new that comes out these days? Looks good to me and I don't buy apple stuff.
 
The other day as I followed the iPad event Live Blog I found myself quite underwhelmed by the whole thing. Man, what an over-hyped product compared to the reality of this tablet. I'm not an Apple fan by any means and have no Apple products at home, but I do realize that they have a certain insight into the minds of consumers. I was left wondering how a company that usually gets everything so right, get this product so wrong. It wasn't just me either as the comment sections of all the various tech websites I frequent were filled with comments from people thinking the same thing. Now that I've had time to digest the iPad and think about what it means to the consumer, I must grudgingly admit that I think Steve Jobs is a brilliant man. Before I get to that though I want to talk about consumer electronics for a moment as a whole.

Walk into any Wal-mart or Target and look around their electronics section and you will see the huge divide between PC's and every other piece of electronics in the store.

Go to the computer software isle. Now stand in front of the new release section, close your eyes, and reach out and pick a package. Will the software you picked run on your PC? You don't know until you read the package. Do you have a graphics card with DirectX 9c? Do you have shader model 4.0? Do you have 2GB of ram? Do you have 11GB of available hard drive space. Do you have EAX 5.0? Do you have PhysX? Do you have Windows XP service pack 3 or higher?

Now go to the computer hardware isle. Stand in front of the storage section and do the same thing. Wait, do you have a USB 1.1, 2.0 or 3.0 port? Do you have a Firewire port? Do you have an e-SATA port? Do you have Windows XP Service Pack 3 or higher?

Now go to the CD section and do the same thing. You close you're eyes and pick the one. That's it, you're done.

Now go to the DVD section and do the same. Now the XBOX 360 section. Now the PS3 section. Now the Wii section. Now the DS section. Hold on a second. There may just be a pattern forming here.

The truth is that the PC as a consumer device is a completely broken model. One of the greatest strengths of the PC is also it's biggest weakness. There are just too many choices. Choice is good, but there comes a point when too much choice is a bad thing. Do you have to know what makes your CD player work? or your DVR? Your cordless phone? No you don't. PC desktops, laptops and netbooks make you know too much about the device. A modern consumer device SHOULD be free of that. You SHOULD be able to turn it on and just use it. It SHOULD be just as easy as those other devices and completely free of any guess work.

Now back to Steve Jobs being a brilliant man. I think he understands that they let the computer get away from them and become this massive, unruly mess that we have today. I think he has been tying to put the genie back in the bottle ever since. He just could never do that with the Mac's and OS X because they really are just PC's too, with all the same problems.

So this time around he is creating the biggest controlled environment that the computer industry has ever seen. He is turning the computing experience into a real consumer model. You go to the application store and pick anything at random and it just works on three classes of devices. There are 75 million Apple device users already, add in millions of people a year from this pad, and combined with new Touch and iPhones this summer and and I bet there will be 125+ million users by next Christmas. There could be more devices taking advantage of this eco system than the current record holding DS with 130 Million units sold, and it is just a game system. The Apple portable platform does so much more than that. He is taking the game console model that is hugely successful and expanding it out to as many consumers as he can.

People gripe about it not having Flash and thus no Hulu and all that. But lets get real here for a second. When his eco system goes up from 75 million users and reaches 100 million users and then 150 million users, Hulu is going to make an app for that. I think the next step will be the Apple TV2 built on the same platform and running apps for content and first run programming through them. This Apple platform already uses up 50% of all mobile broadband data. What company in their right mind wouldn't change the way they operate to cater to the 100+ million heaviest data consumers? Stick the app on your iPad, iPhone and Apple TV2 and watch all your content anywhere you want, whenever you want.

I have no idea where Steve Jobs wants to lead everyone, but I think the common person consumer is going to follow him there in ever increasing numbers. I think any companies that try to stick with the old computer model are going to see a smaller and smaller market going forward.
 
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