The Member's Systems Discussion Thread

[turkey3_scratch]

Grr Gabriel Torres, you have never failed me with your information until now.

There are two ways I could move these fans. I could put them both as front intakes, but then I'd be removing 3 120mm fans. And I don't want the LEDs lighting up my cables.

So, I'll probably just return them and go with some other fans without LEDs. I should have known... just like LED PSUs. I'll return them tomorrow.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Well, better to be let down and know the reality of a thing, than live with a misconception thinking that it's true. Plus, now you won't spread misinformation to anybody else without even knowing you're doing it.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

I'm guessing I'll have to pay a bit to ship these back. Thanks for your guys' help, I guess Torres had a trip up on his information. If he had it right, I would have researched the fans more, but I figured that even if they were sleeve bearing, it'd be the proper orientation.

 

[Darkbreeze]

By the way, as I just mentioned in the moderators battlestation thread, these Aerocool Dead Silence 140mm fans are quieter, by ear anyhow, than my Noctua NF-A15 PWM fans are. That's a major shock to me as I mainly went with them because the DS fans were supposed to at least be relatively quiet, but more for keeping with the color scheme of my build because the Noctua fans didn't really end up looking quite the way I wanted them to, but in reality seem to be quieter than my Noctuas are at full speed. I'm going to do some sound tests before long and will know for sure.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

By the way, as I just mentioned in the moderators battlestation thread, these Aerocool Dead Silence 140mm fans are quieter, by ear anyhow, than my Noctua NF-A15 PWM fans are. That's a major shock to me as I mainly went with them because the DS fans were supposed to at least be relatively quiet, but more for keeping with the color scheme of my build because the Noctua fans didn't really end up looking quite the way I wanted them to, but in reality seem to be quieter than my Noctuas are at full speed. I'm going to do some sound tests before long and will know for sure.

I might want some quieter fans. It'll be good for college. I'll probably buy the NZXT Grid V2 also as a fan controlller, except for the fact that it uses USB to control it, and how exactly I'm supposed to route the USB cable outside my case from the back is beyond me. I guess I'll have to loop it all the way in front of the motherboard which seems like a hassle.

I guess I can worry less about temps, too, seeing as I'll be getting 1 maybe 2 Polaris or Pascal GPUs.

 

[Deleted member 217926]

I'm very happy with the NZXT FZ fans I upgraded my Phantom 820 with. They are rifle bearing fans though and not considered as high end as fluid dynamic fans I don't believe. I have 4 x 200mm and 1 x 140mm and I can't hear them at all sitting right next to the case. Fan controller is on medium. All I hear is my CPU cooler spinning at 100% until Windows boots then my case is basically silent.

 

[Darkbreeze]

No, it uses a motherboard USB 2.0 header pinout, on the motherboard, inside the case. It doesn't get routed outside the case. None of the Grid+ v2 wiring leaves the inside of the case.

 

[Onus]

I would think that "rifle" bearings (or similar) would work with vertical shafts because grooves in them would carry lubricant to the tops of the bearings. So, cheap sleeve (e.g. Coolermaster) = bad; quality (rifle) sleeve (e.g. Enermax) = fine to run horizontally.

 

[tiny voices]

Tiny, weren't you selling two 770s? My friend wants to buy two and do SLI(which I am telling him no because... well, long backstory)... I'm looking through the classified as well....

No I was selling 2 660ti's at one point though.

 

[Turb0Yoda]

Ah OK.

 

[Turb0Yoda]

I'm praying for a 50 point jump too 2k on the SAT, because then I can actually get a provisional/permit(apparently there is an accelerated course at the DMV that launches you to a provisional quickly)... Any helpful tips?

On a related note, I got my cooler, but I have to strip the entire care to the bare metal to access the motherboard in order to unscrew it... seeing as the PSU covers the bottom fourth and the HDD/DVD cage covers the RAM Area

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Yep, removed those fans, a not even a single hint of vibration with my 4 NZXT FN V2 fans, which are rifle bearing. I don't even have any use for those rubber things currently since there is no vibration with normal screws anyway. Good riddance Corsair fans. You're getting returned tomorrow.

I've owned two Corsair products: fans and RAM. Like the RAM, don't like the fans.

 

[Darkbreeze]

See, that's what we've been telling you all this time in the PSU thread. Corsair has good RAM, and some of their cases are really good, but their power supplies, fans and most of their cooling products leave much to be desired. Sorry Corsair fans, no pun intended.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

I'm actually considering making a mini ITX rig in a Lian-Li PC-Q10 for college. I just came across this case on an image in Tomshardware, and it seems like it'd be fit for a smaller environment. Next year, I probably won't want to have my large desktop in a dorm room hogging up space.

I'm thinking something like a $600 rig with an I3, very simple.

 

[Turb0Yoda]

If I did a mITX build, I REALLY like the Prodigy... That said, I'd somehow need to squeeze 16-32 gigs of RAM... Yes, I have a use, lotta virutal machines... amongst other things
first things first, SAT

 

[turkey3_scratch]

The Prodigy is indeed a very nice case. There's just something I like about the Lian-Li, though.

 

[Onus]

Having seen one, I can tell you the Prodigy is HUGE for a mITX case.
Since this is for college, and "ultra" gaming is not a priority, build it in an InWin BP-655 with a GT740.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Who said Ultra gaming wasn't a priority? Ultra gaming is ALWAYS a priority. Nah, just messin'.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Having seen one, I can tell you the Prodigy is HUGE for a mITX case.
Since this is for college, and "ultra" gaming is not a priority, build it in an InWin BP-655 with a GT740.

That looks like a pretty cool case, but I don't thinking I'm shooting for that skinny. I want something smaller but not too small, if you know what I mean. Another drawback to that is the need for a TFX PSU, which is tough to find quality models in.

I was thinking something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($124.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H170N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($117.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($42.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Case: Lian-Li PC-Q10WX Mini ITX Desktop Case ($132.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $637.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-22 23:13 EST-0500

Along with a Pascal or Polaris GPU.

 

[Turb0Yoda]

hehe, I'd sell you my GT 740, but I need it...

That said, If I had the money, and dependent on what is available... I'd really like to do a build with an r9 nano and an i5/i7/AMD if they can match up then....

 

[turkey3_scratch]

I won't be using something like a GT 740, I'll probably be buying something more like the next GTX 960 or R9 380.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

hehe, I'd sell you my GT 740, but I need it...

That said, If I had the money, and dependent on what is available... I'd really like to do a build with an r9 nano and an i5/i7/AMD if they can match up then....

Yeah, a Nano's just about as high-end as you can get in those small cases. That's what is has going for it, as well as the major price decrease.

 

[Onus]

The 300W PSU for that InWin is probably a tier-3 based on C. Hegge's review of it at HardwareInsights. It does have a Capxon in it, but is relatively efficient for a non-80+ unit. For the load you'd likely encounter in that small case, it should be fine. This is my second one; the first pulled around 126W from its UPS under load.

 

[Turb0Yoda]

I just remembered I have to repair the GRUB loader on my tri-boot machine... what a pain...

 

[g-unit1111]

So I got my Enthoo Pro today and got everything (my Dark Knight rig) installed and hooked up and working perfectly. This might be the best case I've ever bought - really easy to use and work in. I'll post some pictures tomorrow after I get the fans setup.