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So I've heard. Atleast from my friend, whose relative works over here... Our contact 😛
 


I don't think their website has even changed except for a few different images since 2008, so it probably was. That's one of the reasons they probably went out of business. Not necessarily the website design or standards, but the fact that the site was stagnating. There was never any changes done to bolster product categories, different types of product offerings and they continued to sell mostly the same old brands they'd been carrying for years, many of which, like Ultra, people have learned to avoid. At least NewEgg has the sense to expand their offerings occasionally and to partner with a budget hardware manufacturer that actually has some value in it's budget lineup.
 


I've got my 4670K running at 4.2 with the Cryorig R1 at stock voltage and BCLK at 100, and it works very well right now.
 
Is that 4.3 OC on stock voltage stable when running Prime though? Run Prime95 v26.6 (And only 26.6) for a few hours and see if it drops any workers or errors out. Systems will run, and seem fine, with overclocks using stock voltage, but in reality are introducing micro-errors into everything that's done which you won't generally see or know about until later when the accumulation of errors has entirely corrupted a significant portion of your data and files, unless you fully test stability using Prime.

There ARE other stress testing utilities of course, but absolutely none of them are as accurate or reliable for thermal or stability testing as Prime is. Better yet is using more than one. While a system may be stable using one type of testing method, it may error out quickly on another. For the most part though, if you can pass 12-24 hours on Prime95 v26.6 without errors or dropping workers, then it's stable. Going the full 24hrs is better as we've seen many cases where systems failed to remain stable at some point between 12 and 24hrs, but rarely if ever after 24hrs.

Thermal compliance can generally be determined if temps stay within spec for 15 minutes.
 
Use coffee filters if you can. They won't leave lint behind like paper towels or tissues will.

And yeah a bottle of rubbing alcohol is less than a dollar at the grocery store.
 
Who wants to buy a mint condition thermal take CPU Cooler? Cut my finger on the chipset heatsink, and the old backplate has some 3M tape on it that won't come off... Tried heating it up with a hairdryer and peeling it off with some floss... Didn't do anything... Prolly just gonna redo the CPU thermal paste...
 


If you have a 5.25" bay, I'd get the Sentry 3 for sure. It looks awesome, and I like the ability to monitor it outside of the case without having to use software on Windows.
 


I think I have to disagree here. I too have seen tissue particulates in the air if there is sunlight in the room and you tear one apart or rub it vigorously. If you can see it, it's not microscopic. Anything large enough to see with the naked eye is likely to create an air gap between the lid and heatsink, which is going to act like an insulator rather than provide heat transfer. I too use coffee filters or lint free transmission cloths if I have them. If you don't, then a paper towel is probably less likely to leave particulates behind than a facial tissue, due to the way they are constructed.

Just my thoughts on that, I'm sure in most cases it's a non-issue, but having seen how easily air gaps can be created on tests using clear material to represent the heatsink base, it's hard enough to eliminate ALL air bubbles even when there is a totally clean surface much less if there are ANY contaminants at all. Better to err on the side of caution IMO.
 


I think I trust the integrated sensor data a lot more than the thermal probes or estimated figures most those units use. Pretty sure that thing uses a temp probe, which are almost next to worthless like TV said. I'd go with the Grid+. Much better and it's tiny, only about 3"x3"x1/2", so finding a place for it shouldn't be an issue. When they come up with a 5.25" unit that interfaces with the system using the USB header like the Grid+, then that might be a good option as well. I kind of doubt we'll see that though since more and more cases are ditching the external drive bays.