The Member's Systems Discussion Thread

[tiny voices]

You'll get the same performance as the stock fan give or take. Probably take (212 EVO performs better with a single fan). The SP120 High Performance has a static pressure of 3.1 and the 212 EVO fan has a static pressure of 3 but the SP's max out at 65CFM but the 212 EVO fan does 83CFM.

I'd say your temps are fine. Nothing to worry about.

 

[azzazel_99]

Eh on my 2500k once I upgraded to the push pull config with the corsairs my temps went down but at that point I was running 2 fans vs just the 1 cm fan. I may try the cm fans in push pull but 65c on a entry level air cooler vs 60c with a high end liquid cooler seems pretty good. When I saw 65c under full load with cinebench it scared me cause I'm used to my i5-2500k running at 58c max at 4.4ghz under full load. I read though the sky lakes run warmer and are rated to like 105c before being damaged? Anyhow my idle temps are around 25c or lower and the cpu is insanely fast!

 

[Deleted member 217926]

You would do better with the stock 212 EVO fan. AF fans don;t have good static pressure and are not meant for heatsinks.

I beg to differ on that one.

The Corsair AF fans improve cooling on both the Phanteks and the Noctua and when equipped with a pair of AF fans the Phanteks is the best high end air cooler Xbit had ever tested and one of the quietest. I went with a pair of Corsair AFs on my Phanteks.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/noctua-nh-d15_5.html#sect0

I loaded my ( still stock ) 6700K the other night with both Prime 95 small FFTs and Intel's Extreme Tuning Utility at the same time just to get a baseline and I couldn't get anything higher than 56C on a single core and the others were all 2-3C lower than that.


The 2600K I just replaced would hit about 65C-67C at 100% synthetic load at 4.5Ghz. I had a Scythe Mugen 2 Rev B cooling it. That's a better cooler than the Hyper 212+. I'm not sure about the Evo.

 

[tiny voices]

Hmm, a small improvement, but an improvement none the less. I don't buy Corsair fans, but I could see myself swapping some Cougars or something onto a big air cooler if I ever was to own one.

Always wanted to do a Prolimatech genesis.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

What bearing do the AF fans have? Because the AF LED fans I had were unbearable (get it?) with their sleeve design.

 

[tiny voices]

If they have the same as the SP fans, I'd avoid at all costs. I have 2 sp120s with shot bearings that were the RMA replacement for 2 more SP120s which had failed bearings.

 

[nukemaster]

They have so many variations of sleeve bearings. Horizontally mounting fans was your issue. In general it shortens the line of many bearings as well.

I ran a basic sleeve bearing Globe fan for years(then the grinding started).

Even among the same batch they can have some variation.

 

[azzazel_99]

my sp120's ive had for awhile now with not issues. I keep them clean and they stay happy. http://www.overclockers.com/intel-skylake-i7-6700k-cpu-review/ down towards the bottom under temperatures and power consumption. Now you run the phanteks tcpe14 cooler right on your 6700k? Overclockers was using a h110 i think it was and was averaging 60c. Hwmonitor and my asus software also show different temps which is kinda weird. idle on hwmonitor shows 19c-22c where as the asus software shows 25c-30c

 

[turkey3_scratch]

They have so many variations of sleeve bearings. Horizontally mounting fans was your issue. In general it shortens the line of many bearings as well.

I ran a basic sleeve bearing Globe fan for years(then the grinding started).

Even among the same batch they can have some variation.

When you have fans with rifle of FDP or ball or even dual ball bearings, I'd take them any day over sleeve.

 

[azzazel_99]

This was after running cinebench.

 

[nukemaster]

My sleeve fan came with a case. I had it, so I used it.

 

[azzazel_99]

the 6700k is a odd ball for sure. Soon as i start prime95 the temps dont climb from idle up to the 60's it just goes from 20c to 65c in the blink of an eye and when i stop prime it drops back to 20c just as fast lol

 

[turkey3_scratch]

My sleeve fan came with a case. I had it, so I used it.

Most fans that come with cases probably are sleeve bearing. I am happy that my NZXT H440 comes with 4 very quiet rifle bearing FN V2 fans. They are very high quality fans. Lots of cases only come with something like a single sleeve bearing fan, and you have to usually add one or two.

 

[Mirakledba]

I just cant wait to fly again:lol:. Lol I know its random, but still!!

 

[Turb0Yoda]

So my current SetFSB settings is this:

And this is the one that caused me to have to force a system Restore:

I have no clue what to make of this... Anyone know how to interpret all of that?

 

[nukemaster]

@ turkey3_scratch
Well 3 or so years from a sleeve horizontally(at least 2 of those 24/7) mounted it did not owe me anything. I would not go and buy a sleeve bearing fan(I take that back, I have in the past, but I would not now) mind you, but some are MUCH better than others. If I have one I will use it until it dies.
I did have some old Yate Loon sleeve bearings that are still running to this day(great value for the 1-2 dollars each) in other systems.

Antec cases came with ball bearing fans. Still have some of those, but they are loud for my tastes.

All of these fluid type bearings just use different names to avoid paying for a patent on a type of bearing. It is kind of funny. Gelids Hydro Dynamic bearing died faster than a sleeve .

We have lots of fans to choose from. I actually have many fans I am not using collecting dust.

@ Mirakledba
This thread is random.

@ XxD34THxX
Sorry I never used that software.

 

[azzazel_99]

oh how i miss the temps of my sandy bridge

 

[nukemaster]

These smaller dies and thermal paste instead of soldering on many parts can cause this. You are still within specs anyway.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

No I understand that if you have sleeve bearing fans, there's no reason not to use them. But if I'm strictly buying fans for my PC, I will only look for rifle bearing or preferably ball in the future.

 

[g-unit1111]

oh how i miss the temps of my sandy bridge

Yeah I hear that! I never owned a 2500K, but my 3570K still runs like a champ!

 

[azzazel_99]

i just see people saying their max temps underload are 58c or lower so when i see my 66'ish c under full load with prime v26 with small fft it makes me wonder.

 

[azzazel_99]

Ha enabled the xmp profile for my ram to run at the right frequency (2400mhz) instead of the 2133 the bios was seeing and now my max load temps are 52c in cinebench instead of the 60's i was getting. Odd but hey im happy

 

[Deleted member 217926]

That is odd but whatever works!

 

[azzazel_99]

YEA maybe the xmp setting set something else or perhaps the cpu voltage was outta whack and enabling the xmp profile set it correctly? Not sure but played the new division game from tom clancy and never went over 51c. Stuff's running super better lol!

 

[azzazel_99]

so im searching for a new gpu for my wife to replace her gtx560ti classified model from evga. Was thinking 380x but not sure it will perform well enough. She wants to play division with our friends and maybe some bf4 so i was thinking a 970? What do you guys think?