Should have a 485 GTX or 580 GTX for that much money. Price out the same specs on xoticpc or prostar, you'll have a hard time getting over 1600 bucks!
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For anyone that are comparing this to Sager/Asus/Alienware NEVER owned such laptop. I do (Asus G53) and I hate carriing this monstrous 15 pounds brick, not talking of the 4 pounds charger that I MUST carry or I get barely an hour of autonomy. It's more a "transportable" PC than a laptop frankly.
This one is half the thickness and 3 times lighter, it just can't compare. Sure it's not given, and the specs are not ideal according to me. An SSD, 4G of ram and 1G video RAM and a GT560 would suits better. It's also the first version, next gen will be better AND cheaper. You can't blame the concept just for the price.
Not talking that the LCD pad and buttons are highly exclusive. If you don't like them, buy something else.
This one is half the thickness and 3 times lighter, it just can't compare. Sure it's not given, and the specs are not ideal according to me. An SSD, 4G of ram and 1G video RAM and a GT560 would suits better. It's also the first version, next gen will be better AND cheaper. You can't blame the concept just for the price.
Not talking that the LCD pad and buttons are highly exclusive. If you don't like them, buy something else.
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The specs/price are just garbage! but the design is actually pretty sweet. I am sure that there are plenty of idiots out there that will buy it though...
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Way too expensive but I love whats going on with the right-side controls. Seems like it would be handy and laptops have been BEGGING for new innovations for quite some time,(just look at the ipad success).
I just wish they had a couple of different price tiers because there is no way in hell, I would ever plunk down 3k for a laptop, EVER!
I just wish they had a couple of different price tiers because there is no way in hell, I would ever plunk down 3k for a laptop, EVER!
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[citation][nom]theranish[/nom]Alienware has been priced for gaming for YEARS, not overpriced. If it was overpriced then people wouldn't be buying it. I SWEAR all you children who cry OVERPRICE to sometihng doesn't get the consept and is why most of you will be sticking with your blackfriday emachines expecting it to rub your nuts while playing Battlefield 3 and when it doesn't complain about the product. Just because something is a lot of money, which alienware is alot of money, does not mean it is overpriced. They are "Highend" luxury items, some people can afford it and do buy it, some people can afford it but cannot justify it, some people cannot buy it but try/wish they could, and other cannot buy it nore would want to. Just because you don't fit in the catigory that would want it for said reasons above doesn't mean it is overpriced.[/citation]
Lol, eMachines? I've got news for you, son, it hasn't taken $2800 of ANYTHING to run any game at decent settings - ever - and any PC at half that price would play at better than decent settings. With Razer you're going to get the same thing you do with Alienware - a brand name. So, yes, it is overpriced.
Lol, eMachines? I've got news for you, son, it hasn't taken $2800 of ANYTHING to run any game at decent settings - ever - and any PC at half that price would play at better than decent settings. With Razer you're going to get the same thing you do with Alienware - a brand name. So, yes, it is overpriced.
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[citation][nom]draxssab[/nom]For anyone that are comparing this to Sager/Asus/Alienware NEVER owned such laptop. I do (Asus G53) and I hate carriing this monstrous 15 pounds brick, not talking of the 4 pounds charger that I MUST carry or I get barely an hour of autonomy. It's more a "transportable" PC than a laptop frankly.This one is half the thickness and 3 times lighter, it just can't compare. Sure it's not given, and the specs are not ideal according to me. An SSD, 4G of ram and 1G video RAM and a GT560 would suits better. It's also the first version, next gen will be better AND cheaper. You can't blame the concept just for the price.Not talking that the LCD pad and buttons are highly exclusive. If you don't like them, buy something else.[/citation]
You're clueless. Do some research.
Sager NP5175:
17.3" 1920x1080 LED Display
Intel Core i7-2720QM
NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M with Optimus
8GB DDR3 1333MHZ
500GB 7200RPM Hard Drive
6x Blu-Ray Reader/8x DVD Writer Optical Drive
Intel Ultimate-N 6300 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Module
62WHr battery
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
6.8 pounds
Price: $1430
So this thing has a far superior CPU, a higher-capacity Hard Drive, a Blu-Ray drive, a much better professional-level wireless module, should get comparable battery life, and it weighs slightly less. Build quality is comparable, too. The price is also $1370 lower. So, then, where does all that extra cost come from? It comes from it being thinner and the gimmicky LCD display apparently, never mind that the fact that the width and height, not to mention weight, of the chassis means a lot more for portability than extra thinness. This machine is completely nonsensical at this price. It's not any more portable than what we've had since many months ago, and the hardware specs suck. It's not a high-end laptop; far from it.
You're clueless. Do some research.
Sager NP5175:
17.3" 1920x1080 LED Display
Intel Core i7-2720QM
NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M with Optimus
8GB DDR3 1333MHZ
500GB 7200RPM Hard Drive
6x Blu-Ray Reader/8x DVD Writer Optical Drive
Intel Ultimate-N 6300 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Module
62WHr battery
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
6.8 pounds
Price: $1430
So this thing has a far superior CPU, a higher-capacity Hard Drive, a Blu-Ray drive, a much better professional-level wireless module, should get comparable battery life, and it weighs slightly less. Build quality is comparable, too. The price is also $1370 lower. So, then, where does all that extra cost come from? It comes from it being thinner and the gimmicky LCD display apparently, never mind that the fact that the width and height, not to mention weight, of the chassis means a lot more for portability than extra thinness. This machine is completely nonsensical at this price. It's not any more portable than what we've had since many months ago, and the hardware specs suck. It's not a high-end laptop; far from it.
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If anyone wants a link to the laptop I mentioned:
http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np5175-clevo-w170hr-p-3000.html
http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np5175-clevo-w170hr-p-3000.html
[citation][nom]Nightsilver[/nom]Lol, eMachines? I've got news for you, son, it hasn't taken $2800 of ANYTHING to run any game at decent settings - ever - and any PC at half that price would play at better than decent settings. With Razer you're going to get the same thing you do with Alienware - a brand name. So, yes, it is overpriced.[/citation]
Ha, you don't remember what the cost of laptops were back in the 90's?? Just to get your average laptop was 3k. Also I would like to see you buy a laptop for what $1200?? and see how long that lasts in giving you quality performance 2 or even 3 years after purchasing it. Do you NEED to spend $2800 on a laptop?? No but for that matter do you NEED a laptop?? No you don't so it is a luxury to own one and since it is a luxury item you cannot call any luxury item overpriced. Don't misconstrued your idea of what you are willing to spend to what is overpriced.
Don't hate on other people because they love their BMW and you are happy with a Kia.
Ha, you don't remember what the cost of laptops were back in the 90's?? Just to get your average laptop was 3k. Also I would like to see you buy a laptop for what $1200?? and see how long that lasts in giving you quality performance 2 or even 3 years after purchasing it. Do you NEED to spend $2800 on a laptop?? No but for that matter do you NEED a laptop?? No you don't so it is a luxury to own one and since it is a luxury item you cannot call any luxury item overpriced. Don't misconstrued your idea of what you are willing to spend to what is overpriced.
Don't hate on other people because they love their BMW and you are happy with a Kia.
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Very expensive: For comparison, here is an Alienware with comparible, if not better specs, for $1000 less.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=416907&SRCCODE=WEBGOOPA&cm_mmc_o=mH4CjC7BBTkwCjCV1-CjCE
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Laptop-Graphics-Cards.130.0.html
What you are basically paying for is the name, how thin it is (Really? Is being thin worth so much?), and a touch screen controller...
I'd buy the Alienware, and an ipad 2, and have a better gaming experience, and $500 bucks left..
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=416907&SRCCODE=WEBGOOPA&cm_mmc_o=mH4CjC7BBTkwCjCV1-CjCE
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of-Laptop-Graphics-Cards.130.0.html
What you are basically paying for is the name, how thin it is (Really? Is being thin worth so much?), and a touch screen controller...
I'd buy the Alienware, and an ipad 2, and have a better gaming experience, and $500 bucks left..
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[citation][nom]theranish[/nom]Ha, you don't remember what the cost of laptops were back in the 90's?? Just to get your average laptop was 3k. Also I would like to see you buy a laptop for what $1200?? and see how long that lasts in giving you quality performance 2 or even 3 years after purchasing it. Do you NEED to spend $2800 on a laptop?? No but for that matter do you NEED a laptop?? No you don't so it is a luxury to own one and since it is a luxury item you cannot call any luxury item overpriced. Don't misconstrued your idea of what you are willing to spend to what is overpriced. Don't hate on other people because they love their BMW and you are happy with a Kia.[/citation]
What the hell are you talking about? This is why car comparisons are almost always doomed to fail. With a BMW you're getting actual, tangibly higher quality than a Kia and a lot more features. That's why this analogy has never worked for computers. The Sager NP5175 has better components than the Razer Blade and the only "feature" you lose is the gimmicky LCD display. Something being a luxury item isn't just about high cost. It's about getting higher quality and a lot more features, both of which the Blade fails to deliver. It's not a luxury item; it's an overpriced item, period.
What the hell are you talking about? This is why car comparisons are almost always doomed to fail. With a BMW you're getting actual, tangibly higher quality than a Kia and a lot more features. That's why this analogy has never worked for computers. The Sager NP5175 has better components than the Razer Blade and the only "feature" you lose is the gimmicky LCD display. Something being a luxury item isn't just about high cost. It's about getting higher quality and a lot more features, both of which the Blade fails to deliver. It's not a luxury item; it's an overpriced item, period.
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[citation][nom]AppleBlowsDonkeyBalls[/nom]You're clueless. Do some research (.....) It's not a high-end laptop; far from it.[/citation]
Thank you for pointing me a seemingly good laptop, but you clearly missed my point. I never said that the price was good for the hardware, I even said that i disliked it. I only mentioned that I respect that they are trying to change the image of a gaming laptop, and inovate and you cannot blame them for it. If you can't afford/justify just don't buy it, but i'm sure many will for the desing and the LCD touchpad they could not find anywhere else.
I surely won't buy it, but I seriously hope that many others will, and make the next generation under 2k$.
Thank you for pointing me a seemingly good laptop, but you clearly missed my point. I never said that the price was good for the hardware, I even said that i disliked it. I only mentioned that I respect that they are trying to change the image of a gaming laptop, and inovate and you cannot blame them for it. If you can't afford/justify just don't buy it, but i'm sure many will for the desing and the LCD touchpad they could not find anywhere else.
I surely won't buy it, but I seriously hope that many others will, and make the next generation under 2k$.
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[citation][nom]draxssab[/nom]Thank you for pointing me a seemingly good laptop, but you clearly missed my point. I never said that the price was good for the hardware, I even said that i disliked it. I only mentioned that I respect that they are trying to change the image of a gaming laptop, and inovate and you cannot blame them for it. If you can't afford/justify just don't buy it, but i'm sure many will for the desing and the LCD touchpad they could not find anywhere else.I surely won't buy it, but I seriously hope that many others will, and make the next generation under 2k$.[/citation]
Well, they're not changing anything. Laptops that are just as portable, have comparable battery life, cost less, and come with much better hardware have been available for months. I was correcting you for saying that the gaming laptops available from manufacturers like Sager are all 15 pound beasts with almost no battery life. This is incorrect, as the NP5175 I mentioned earlier weighs 6.8 pounds and has a decent 4 hours of web browsing battery life, which is comparable to what this should get.
Well, they're not changing anything. Laptops that are just as portable, have comparable battery life, cost less, and come with much better hardware have been available for months. I was correcting you for saying that the gaming laptops available from manufacturers like Sager are all 15 pound beasts with almost no battery life. This is incorrect, as the NP5175 I mentioned earlier weighs 6.8 pounds and has a decent 4 hours of web browsing battery life, which is comparable to what this should get.
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I dunno, maybe it's just me, but portable and gaming aren't really two that go together well with me. I mean, not saying it's not a good idea, but gaming laptops aren't really meant for taking on the train, or gaming at a coffee shop. I think they are meant to be for taking to lan parties or to a buddies house when you don't feel like bringing your whole pc with monitor and everything with you. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's just me. But I really don't care about the battery life or how thin a laptop is. no matter how heavy it is, it's way lighter and easier to move then my full fledged gaming pc at home. Now if it was for work it would be different, but when I'm gaming I prefer being stationary. So the things I would like in a laptop are a high resolution decent looking fairly large monitor (3d would be a nice bonus), lots of power, nice flat configurable and comfortable keyboard, some decent speakers, some usb ports in the right spots (mouse and decent headset), and hopefully and hdmi out just in case I have a big screen to hook up to it.
I don't really care about battery life, because 95% of the time i'd be somewhere there is a plug, the other 5% would be if I was taking a train or a car ride somewhere, and if I was driving somewhere, i'd probably have a 12v adapter with me anyways.
Being thin tells me one thing, the parts are gonna be extra expensive, and if I needed to rip it apart to try to repair it, it would be a pain in the arse. And the touch pad is cool, but honestly when I'm playing a game I try not to take my eyes off the screen, so I probably wouldn't use it anyways, that would probably be more for someone doing video, music, or picture editing. I'd much rather they save that space for a decent size keyboard, as that thing looks kinda small.
I don't really care about battery life, because 95% of the time i'd be somewhere there is a plug, the other 5% would be if I was taking a train or a car ride somewhere, and if I was driving somewhere, i'd probably have a 12v adapter with me anyways.
Being thin tells me one thing, the parts are gonna be extra expensive, and if I needed to rip it apart to try to repair it, it would be a pain in the arse. And the touch pad is cool, but honestly when I'm playing a game I try not to take my eyes off the screen, so I probably wouldn't use it anyways, that would probably be more for someone doing video, music, or picture editing. I'd much rather they save that space for a decent size keyboard, as that thing looks kinda small.
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What a joke.
I have a hp dv7t quad 6100 series with a slightly slower core i7 mobile processor (a 2630QM), it's a little thicker (1.2"W x10.9D x1.37H and 7.74 lbs) with 8 GB RAM, a blu-ray burner, 2GB GDDR5 Radeon HD 6770M, 17.3 inch screen, WiFi B/G/N, Blue Tooth, 2 USB 3.0 ports along with 2 USB 2.0 ports, a HD webcam, fingerprint reader, etc. - all for around $1000 (o.k., the monitor is lower resolution at 1600x900 but I can export it to my Pioneer PRO 151FD - 60" Elite KURO plasma TV if I want to through the HDMI, [sorry for bragging a bit.] For $260, I just added Kingston's new HyperX 120 GB Sata 6.0gb/sec SSD as the OS/program drive(the MB supports it and it screams) and put the OEM HDD in the second drive bay as a data drive (yes it has two drive bays). It comes with two batteries, a 6 cell Li-ion and a 9 cell Li-ion (I don't know the watts but with a SSD it will draw a lot less than the Razer Blade's "first gaming portable laptop" and its standard HDD.
Again, this one screams. $2800 vs $1300 for a much faster albeit thicker laptop. Pretty much a no brainer.
I have a hp dv7t quad 6100 series with a slightly slower core i7 mobile processor (a 2630QM), it's a little thicker (1.2"W x10.9D x1.37H and 7.74 lbs) with 8 GB RAM, a blu-ray burner, 2GB GDDR5 Radeon HD 6770M, 17.3 inch screen, WiFi B/G/N, Blue Tooth, 2 USB 3.0 ports along with 2 USB 2.0 ports, a HD webcam, fingerprint reader, etc. - all for around $1000 (o.k., the monitor is lower resolution at 1600x900 but I can export it to my Pioneer PRO 151FD - 60" Elite KURO plasma TV if I want to through the HDMI, [sorry for bragging a bit.] For $260, I just added Kingston's new HyperX 120 GB Sata 6.0gb/sec SSD as the OS/program drive(the MB supports it and it screams) and put the OEM HDD in the second drive bay as a data drive (yes it has two drive bays). It comes with two batteries, a 6 cell Li-ion and a 9 cell Li-ion (I don't know the watts but with a SSD it will draw a lot less than the Razer Blade's "first gaming portable laptop" and its standard HDD.
Again, this one screams. $2800 vs $1300 for a much faster albeit thicker laptop. Pretty much a no brainer.
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[citation][nom]AppleBlowsDonkeyBalls[/nom]What the hell are you talking about? This is why car comparisons are almost always doomed to fail. With a BMW you're getting actual, tangibly higher quality than a Kia and a lot more features. That's why this analogy has never worked for computers. The Sager NP5175 has better components than the Razer Blade and the only "feature" you lose is the gimmicky LCD display. Something being a luxury item isn't just about high cost. It's about getting higher quality and a lot more features, both of which the Blade fails to deliver. It's not a luxury item; it's an overpriced item, period.[/citation]
TBH, I like the look of the Blade over the Sager and the Sager looks kinda thick...like any other me-too laptop. The Asus' that can be had for so much less are all plasticy and cheap looking feeling. They are certainly not as portable as the Blade.
...but what do I know, I have a 15" Apple MacBook Pro that I actually like...so I clearly must be a moron.
TBH, I like the look of the Blade over the Sager and the Sager looks kinda thick...like any other me-too laptop. The Asus' that can be had for so much less are all plasticy and cheap looking feeling. They are certainly not as portable as the Blade.
...but what do I know, I have a 15" Apple MacBook Pro that I actually like...so I clearly must be a moron.
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Well, most of the mentioned laptops here are "Desktop Replacements". This product, however, I believe can be called an actual laptop.
Any of you tried using a Sager / Asus ROG "laptop" on your lap?
Any of you tried using a Sager / Asus ROG "laptop" on your lap?
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[citation][nom]vaughn2k[/nom]Yup... looks like an Apple, black painted.[/citation]
Hey, at least it has a good design then, eh? Its an interesting alternative to a 17" MacBook Pro...but with less CPU power and more GPU power, lower screen resolution and higher price. Hard drive does indeed need to be higher capacity for that price.
Remember the first Macbook Air? FAIL. Not to many credible people in the industry are saying the current MacBook Air is a fail though. Yeah. Hopefully, Razer can also correct these issues in future builds...if there are future builds. That'll depend on how its received in the market. Time will tell. ...but damn, it is truly portable machine that obviously take design points from the MacBook Pro. For most people that's plus.
Hey, at least it has a good design then, eh? Its an interesting alternative to a 17" MacBook Pro...but with less CPU power and more GPU power, lower screen resolution and higher price. Hard drive does indeed need to be higher capacity for that price.
Remember the first Macbook Air? FAIL. Not to many credible people in the industry are saying the current MacBook Air is a fail though. Yeah. Hopefully, Razer can also correct these issues in future builds...if there are future builds. That'll depend on how its received in the market. Time will tell. ...but damn, it is truly portable machine that obviously take design points from the MacBook Pro. For most people that's plus.
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