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Looking real good if we can keep the fanboys out.

Chipsets probably belong in another thread, sicne they can get very complicated, and we dont want too much in one thread.
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hey hergie i wont post any bias cause mike asked so nicely ok and watch out for windshear and ycon.

I couldn't resist responding to this... :lol: I'm not biased against AMD, AMD makes very good processors, however, I like my Intel P4 better... because it runs cool, and overclocks well, and outperforms AMD's, IMO. :) Simply a matter of opinion. I'd be happy to use an AMD or recommend it to someone if they weren't going to overclock at all. Just thought I'd clear that up. 😉

so far I like this thread, it's very good. :) dude i'm not posting any bias and you should'nt either look at your post geez thx lot you ruined mikes unbiased thread :evil:
 
That's a cool lookin' PSU. Never seen that before...

Yeah I pretty much figured the issue was either with my PSU or RAM. My PSU is (as you observed) pretty much maxed out. I'm surprised it even runs in SLI w/ these GTX OC's.

Thanks for the advice. I'll be getting a new PSU here soon. New RAM too.

-mpjesse
 
lol calm down Piddy. Everybody here is entitled to their opinion. But as I stated in the first post, I do not want this to be a Fanboy or Flame Thread. Obviously I cannot stop it, but I would hope my request gets respected by both of you and others and we keep this peaceful. I have recently updated the post, I ask those that wish to look it over to see if anything is wrong or you would like me to add anything, thanks.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
The first Pentium 4's ran on Socket 423, but due to an inadequate electrical design, a Socket 423 P4's max speed was 2.0GHz, this was replaced with Socket 478, it uses Dual Channel DDR1 Memory and allows for much higher clock speeds. The newer generation of Pentium 4's is on Socket 775 (Socket T) and uses Dual Channel DDR2 Memory. If you buy a Socket 775, make sure you purchase the right Memory, all the 6xx Series processors are Socket 775, as well as the 5xx, 8xx, and 9xx Series CPU's.
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Dual channel came in way later (remember the i845 series ddr and sdr ram chipsets - single channel

AMDs - wheres the Athlon 64 FX series? (unless your talkin bout normal desktop cpus, not high high end)

Otherwise sweet that will teach the noobs, but what we need here is an INTEL AMD history chart with there battles eg first to reach 1ghz, series to compete with the other series (eg Intel P3 vs K6-3 -> AMD K7 -> Intel Coppermine -> AMD Thunderbird -> Intel P4's etc) - we need the charts to end the flamewars and show the truth!!!
 
Nobody is going to get an old P4 s478 that uses an old chipset like that, so that was worthless. The Athlon 64 FX series can be covered in the A64, but I guess it is worth noting. If I made something like what you suggest, it will just spark more fanboyism.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
Though I wonder what a Opteron vs. Xeon thread might be like, since even The THGC CPU Guide (being as boring as it is) won't cover Servers, it'd be a nice topic to discuss. What yall think?

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
lol calm down Piddy. Everybody here is entitled to their opinion. But as I stated in the first post, I do not want this to be a Fanboy or Flame Thread. Obviously I cannot stop it, but I would hope my request gets respected by both of you and others and we keep this peaceful. I have recently updated the post, I ask those that wish to look it over to see if anything is wrong or you would like me to add anything, thanks.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
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ok man sorry if you see anymore biased posts ask the admin to delete them so noobs dont get confused or one sided
 
Though I wonder what a Opteron vs. Xeon thread might be like, since even The THGC CPU Guide (being as boring as it is) won't cover Servers, it'd be a nice topic to discuss. What yall think?

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
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welp, the DIB (dual inline bus) on xeons is a good idea for a crap cpu (or two), but there basically the same cpu (with extra cache and higher quality), out of interest - has anyone had the chance to overclock an Itanium or Xeon? iv never thought bout it, but if the xeons are like opterons, they must fly... but then again there a diffrent core with more cache...
 
I have not personally overclocked a Xeon, but from being told, a 3.9GHz Xeon (OC'd from 3.4GHz) still gets beat by a P4 3.6GHz Prescott.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
I believe it was a Xeon 3.4GHz OC'd to 3.9GHz (Single CPU) w/ 1MB Cache vs. a Pentium 4 3.4 GHz w/ 1MB Cache on Socket 478 and the P4 was still faster by about 8%. I wouldn't really blame the cache, since they're the same.

Atol: I don't care about the "Core Duo".

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
I have to say it is the chipset, or maybe a slightly different architecture being that Xeon's are designed for Dual CPU's.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
Exactly. Note the while the CPU performs other tasks which do not require the bus
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In other words, the chip can not access the fsb, so it is at best, in a minimal activity mode.
We wont get into how netbust's need for bandwidth affects this.

How in the world can the chip with 2MB L2 starve while FSB is inaccessible?!?
You AMD fankids are really the worst PR spin-doctors on this decaying planet.
 
so then when the fx-52 comes out will the larger cache even help it?
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dont you mean the fx-62? and hash i think that they will introduce the fx-64 on 65nm process dont you think so too?

Oh yeah, and FX62 (Windsor) will have 125W TDP.
 
MadModMike

I believe it was a Xeon 3.4GHz OC'd to 3.9GHz (Single CPU) w/ 1MB Cache vs. a Pentium 4 3.4 GHz w/ 1MB Cache on Socket 478 and the P4 was still faster by about 8%. I wouldn't really blame the cache, since they're the same.

Atol: I don't care about the "Core Duo".
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Well a few things you cant do with your computer Madmodmike

1 Take your case or Monitor while your wife driving and play games? NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
Where me I Can take eather laptop with me and play it. Oh by the way My 3.4 ee L3 2mb cache Northwood with 17 monitor Laptop. I dont have to worrie about overclocking why waste battery life. Or my intel duo 1.66ghz run games on one cpu. While the other cpu running the windows task and running on low power.

So shove your remark up your rear.
 
Ahhh... RDRAM. RDRAM was even available for Pentium 3's for a while. Ironic that AMD might just be using XDR RAM in future chips.

Who would have thought?
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Me... I knew that Rambus has the potential, it was just the damned DRAM cartel who screwed them in order to sell us overpriced slow crap. Yes, check how much CPU speed has gone up. Well, guess what? They are both being made from the same sand.
 
MadModMike

I believe it was a Xeon 3.4GHz OC'd to 3.9GHz (Single CPU) w/ 1MB Cache vs. a Pentium 4 3.4 GHz w/ 1MB Cache on Socket 478 and the P4 was still faster by about 8%. I wouldn't really blame the cache, since they're the same.

Atol: I don't care about the "Core Duo".
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Well a few things you cant do with your computer Madmodmike

1 Take your case or Monitor while your wife driving and play games? NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
Where me I Can take eather laptop with me and play it. Oh by the way My 3.4 ee L3 2mb cache Northwood with 17 monitor Laptop. I dont have to worrie about overclocking why waste battery life. Or my intel duo 1.66ghz run games on one cpu. While the other cpu running the windows task and running on low power.

So shove your remark up your rear.

There happens to be such thing as an AMD laptop chief and that is what I buy. I don't need a Dual-Core laptop, that is just retarded. BTW: My 3700+ pwns ur P4 EE 3.4.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
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