The xbox 360 will destroy PC gaming.

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Wait, I smell gigolo boy around the corner, watch out! :lol:

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They are licensing whoever can manifacture it the cheaper.

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As i already siad ur rig is not what makes u a good gamer a$$, who knows u probably dont even play games on that rig!



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Man you really DO post drunk!

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Yeah that makes good sense too. As chip technology improves and major fabs convert, MS stands to reduce some losses. In all reality, if hardware were sold at actual production price, then it is not so far off if Xbox 360 cost 150$ one day. Them things inside really do not cost as much as thought of. It's just early technology does cost more because of the R&D costs.

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Well actually I was anticipating a comment about 'consolers settle for them because they have crappy rigs' and actually you about said that in your reply to me despite saying rigs have nothing to do with it at the same time.

Truely my comment about Eden's rig was to preempt a comment like this;

and in this case most peeps who dis the PC just dont have the skills to compete or use a pc or the money to run one.
So my comments kinda refutes that statement. Personally the people with the means get what they want. I have an Xbox despite myself (Hate M$!), and I have multiple rigs. Sometimes the Xbox is fun, especially when drinking with friends, but the Xbox wasn't the visual tour de force the PS2 WAS when released. Of course now they suck in comparison, but you may find that if developed properly for, they may blow away the PCs for the firat little bit. Personally I don't care too much, but consoles are definitely more limited than PCs, and their graphics will overall always be less 'able' than the PC versions but the thing right now is that the Xbox360 has the nice unified shader design with the R500 which gives it MASSIVE vertex power in comparison to the R520, whether this matters short term is hard to tell, but long term this is the direction most people are saying games will go.

Being a good gamer doesn't rely on the rig, and that goes for console or PC, so that previous statement just doesn't fitanymore. There are many games you can show where the PC version is/was awesome and the console version sucks, but there are others that are the other way around (Halo, Final Fantasy).

Considering I still go to the arcades near work, I'd say both the PC and Console take a backseat to that, and anyone who denies it hasn't been to a modern arcade (especially the licensed kind 😎 ).


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Well said, old chap.

But wait, he'll probably come back after a nice shot of Jack Daniels.


Ahhh where's the Chardonnay? A little bit of class when posting please! :lol:

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consoles are quickly becoming pc's in there own right, so console gaming is more in danger than pc gaming.

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Lol, never thought of it like that. But you are right in that they are becoming more like PCs. Xbox360 has ALL PC hardware in it. Its just integrated. Can't wait to get one, but controllers suck arse. I laught at the people who think they are good at gaming when they play and xbox game. If i could play Halo PC against the Xbox version i could pown an entire team. LOL. I'll bet that if more console games supported a mouse and keyboard, some PS2 games do, then they would sell quite a few to PC gamers. But they are dumb. If that happened i would not upgrade my PC at all until it surpasses the consoles once again.

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I laught at the people who think they are good at gaming when they play and xbox game. If i could play Halo PC against the Xbox version i could pown an entire team. LOL.
Yeah well I would laugh at you for thinking you could play that new Street Fighter game on your keyboard so well, punching in those left d-pad to right combinations to throw your next Hadoken attack.
Get where I'm going with this?

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That's a powerful point. I do have to ask you this though: do you think Nintendo's Revolution is on that path?

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haha.. That little wiener's not getting pocket money for quite some time now! Stupid kid.

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Yeah I saw that, and thought Damn that kid's dad must just be pissed off (and scared for his job).

People are saying he shouldn't have let his kid get at it, but it looks like the kid took it from wherever it was usually stored and plugged it in the basement to record this gaming session (I'd think at night when everyone is asleep and wouldn't miss the Xbox).

This is like locking your guns away (lock your virtual one too :wink: ), never trust a kid when curiosity is involved.



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Damn it! Site isn't responding right now...

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It is just real slloooowwwww! Similar to some posters. kwim 😉

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It is just real slloooowwwww! Similar to some posters. kwim 😉

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It is just real slloooowwwww! Similar to some posters. kwim 😉

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Hmmm, looks like your browser might have been a bit slow there too.....

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2453&p=1

Anyways, for those of you who are interested, this article goes into an in-depth discussion about the actual hardware behind the consoles (xbox360 and ps3). A long read, but well worth it. I won't pass any judgemnt now, except to say that PC's will always have the long term edge in gaming, from peripherals, versatility, and especially in the mod community, which will keep a game going on the pc long after it has died on a console.
 
Oh its back!!!
THats article as been pulled for a while, I guess they put it back because it was all over the web anyhow...

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One thing I do not understand is how in the world will microsoft make any money off xbox 360 if they are selling it for 299, and it has 3 core processor plus all the other expensive crap inside of it. Sounds like a way to lose money. :0
 
They always loose money on console for at least the 2-3 first years.
They make their money of the games and of the Xbox Live!


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In that Anandtech article it says that the xb0x 360 will cost about 399 in components. However, it seems that if you bought similar components for a computer, it would cost much more. I assume that the components aren't in reality comparable to computer components at all, but are much more limited, hence the lower cost.

For myself, I will never buy a console again. The ps2 was a waste of money. I like the control I have with a computer and the fact that I have all my entertainment on one system, rather than a few separate gadgets. When they start making consoles more like pcs (when they actuallly become pcs 😉 ) Then I might consider buying one again. But like someone else said: mouse and keyboard :)
 
My last console was a super NES, didnt have a computer back then hehe.

As for the component, there not exactly computers part but more derived from it.

Also I guess you get a discount when you buy millions of them!!Oh and you dont go thru a reseller I guess haha

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