These GeForce GTX 480, 470 Will be Different

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[citation][nom]RazberyBandit[/nom]First, what's with the fins on the FTW cards? Apparently eVGA thinks LCS systems have airflow in them. Or at least enough airflow to help keep the power circuitry cool...[/citation]

Its called heat dissipation. You know? Conduction? Passive cooling? Ringing any bells here?
 
[citation][nom]stipator[/nom]Initially, I was somewhat skeptical about the thermal output of Nvidias new graphics offering. After simmering on the idea, I realized that this situation could take us in a new direction. If the market responds to this by creating cheaper water and phase cooling solutions then we will be much better off. Imagine using phase cooling on the GTX 480 and having the headroom to overclock this to new heights. I think cheap, powerful, and efficient phase cooling would be ideal.[/citation]

A Free market solution to a problem? how can this be? LOL! Agree 105%
 
$150 for a waterblock?
What the hell makes a small hunk of machined copper worth so damned much? Really?

Why not have the barbs horizontally placed instead of vertically? Looks like these could be a single slot card if configured so. Few motherboards support 4 GPU's, and they're massive. How about a 4 way SLI with only single slot liquid cooled GTX 480'd? Slap that on a MicroATX board!
 
I was playing hl2dm on an 8600M GT last night and it plays fine. My desktop has a better video card in it and gets 2x the frames and I'm content on my laptop. No idea why one would need to buy a $600 video card. Save your money during this recession sheesh.
 
This will be good for the people who have dug in and decided they are going to by an Nvidia card no matter what this round. Brand loyalty is very real; for those people this is not a bad solution.

@rooket
it's all a matter of what you want out of your gaming. If you have a 1920x1200 24" screen or even bigger, AND you want frame rates in the 50s 60s for a lot of current games, a few hundred bucks on a video card is the only way to do it. I would have been in the same boat as you a few years back, but once I tried high resolution gaming as fairly smooth frames, it's just hard to go back.

Like going back to a 21" SD TV once you've been using a 42" 1080p for a year :/
 
[citation][nom]chicagotechjunkie[/nom]This will be good for the people who have dug in and decided they are going to by an Nvidia card no matter what this round. Brand loyalty is very real; for those people this is not a bad solution. [/citation]
People will buy this to fold. You can't really fold right now with ATI cards, as they haven't implemented OpenCL support yet, the SMP clients can only use CUDA currently.
 
[citation][nom]RazberyBandit[/nom]First, what's with the fins on the FTW cards? Apparently eVGA thinks LCS systems have airflow in them. Or at least enough airflow to help keep the power circuitry cool...I also think the stock cooling solutions should be included on cards that come with waterblocks. $350 and $500 buy the cards with stock cooling solutions. 3rd-party waterblocks typically cost between $100 and $150. How is these cards a value to the consumer when they don't include the stock cooling? They added a $150 part and $150 to the price tag to cover the cost of that part. Where's the benefit and value? You say the value is that it's pre-installed? Big deal. Anyone using a LCS already possesses the skill required to install waterblocks properly and could probably break down a stock card, clean it, and install the waterblock in 15 minutes.[/citation]Uhhh, not ALL heat sinks need cooling fans in order to work. C'mon man, I've known that since I was a youngin'. Go look at your average Home Theater Receiver. Plenty of fins, no fans. *sigh*
 
[citation][nom]kewlx[/nom]Thats in Celsius...Do you know anything about computers?[/citation]

Has nothing to do with computers and everything to do with the fact that the Metric System is used in far more places then the imperial system. You still get a +1 for recognizing that it's Celsius.
 
[citation][nom]sinsear[/nom]People will buy this to fold. You can't really fold right now with ATI cards, as they haven't implemented OpenCL support yet, the SMP clients can only use CUDA currently.[/citation]

Do you think people would buy a card just to fold@home? Sure it's nice that the nvidia cards have better support, but somehow I think that feature is pretty low on the list of things that are considered when someone is looking to spend this much money.
 
I don't really care for fermi but I see one thing that EVGA did right! Since it's watercooled they made it only take up ONE pci slot; so you can actually use the slot underneath it!
 
[citation][nom]counselmancl[/nom]According to the chart, the 470 doesn't even get above freezing! That's a good cooler.[/citation]

LOL... some people can't take a joke.

... you ARE joking, right?
 
at that price, i can't see this being popular at all except from the die hard Nvidia fans that still believe ATI drivers are terrible
 

You must mean that incredibly intense wind caused by heat rising? LMAO


I know all about it. I remember the days when PC's didn't have a single fan inside them, only passive heatsinks on the few parts that got hot at all. The point is, many LCS systems are completely external of the case, meaning there is no airflow inside a case other than the little bit created by the PSU. In most "good" cases, the PSU is at the bottom or completely separated from the other components. Translated, PSU airflow isn't going to affect airflow around this card, only standard conduction. That said, if they get hot, they'll stay hot. In a card that already runs hotter than any of it's competition, this is a bad thing.

Secondly, if they're going to put a waterblock on this thing, why not one that can keep the power circuitry cool, too? Personally, if I were inclined to get a GTX4XX card and watercool it, I'd wait and see what blocks EK and Swiftec offer before buying this thing.
 
[citation][nom]chicagotechjunkie[/nom]Do you think people would buy a card just to fold@home? Sure it's nice that the nvidia cards have better support, but somehow I think that feature is pretty low on the list of things that are considered when someone is looking to spend this much money.[/citation]
I'm running three GTX295's currently in a dedicated folding rig, all six cores are folding 24/7. Have you ever seen AtlasFolding? (http://atlasfolding.com/?page_id=148) This guy has like 55 9800GX2's and GTX295's..... So believe me; there are many people who buy GPU's just to fold.
 
[citation][nom]sinsear[/nom]I'm running three GTX295's currently in a dedicated folding rig, all six cores are folding 24/7. Have you ever seen AtlasFolding? (http://atlasfolding.com/?page_id=148) This guy has like 55 9800GX2's and GTX295's..... So believe me; there are many people who buy GPU's just to fold.[/citation]
Why? I know it helps research for some very important crap, but... why?
 
Wow the fact that this evga product has to immediatly advertise a woater cooling block to "keep it cooler" to get maximum preformance BEFORE the product is released and charge $650 shows how little they respect the normal heatsinks and the cards heat issues. Thus ATi wins another day
 
[citation][nom]anamaniac[/nom]$150 for a waterblock?What the hell makes a small hunk of machined copper worth so damned much? Really?Why not have the barbs horizontally placed instead of vertically? Looks like these could be a single slot card if configured so. Few motherboards support 4 GPU's, and they're massive. How about a 4 way SLI with only single slot liquid cooled GTX 480'd? Slap that on a MicroATX board![/citation]
CNCing Copper is expensive and time consuming.
 
[citation][nom]sinsear[/nom]I'm running three GTX295's currently in a dedicated folding rig, all six cores are folding 24/7. Have you ever seen AtlasFolding? (http://atlasfolding.com/?page_id=148) This guy has like 55 9800GX2's and GTX295's..... So believe me; there are many people who buy GPU's just to fold.[/citation]

Well I salute you for make the world a better place, and putting your money where your mouth is.

However, I still think buying two lesser cards would yield better results than one water-cooled one for the same price.
 
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