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I belive the 8MB is already compressed, something like 500%. I would say try disabling BigWUs and see if the next one you upload is smaller. It's quite unfortunate that the upload is such a burden, since FAH is supposed to work find for those using dial-up.
 
just disabled it, we'll see how it goes. the thing is that the option says "allow receipt of large WU's" but doesn't mention sending, and if i'm not mistaken, the file seems like it's pretty small to download and large to upload. what's worse is that it's a mere 186 points and it takes 2 days, so in a fully active week (supposing i only recieve these WU's) i'll get 6 of them so it's too much for me to handle and i'm waiting to get DSL... and i have to blame saudi telecom for it... i don't care about having high-speed internet just now, i want 24/7 connection, and i can't even get that...

(if you do follow the link, the second comment is by me. the rest is other people criticizing the company)

Ara
 
Of course it'd be voluntary, and as far as security holes? Umm, yeah. They're called firewalls...HOME SERVER. Get it? It'd be no less secure than say...Windows? It wouldn't be packaged with MS Home Server. It could be seperate, a program written by Stanford or someone who likes FAH? It's like you're telling me that people don't have the free will to run a Linux program virtually with a firewall at home or something...
 
It would certainly be convenient to allow FAH to be run cluster-style at home, rather than having to administer each computer seperately. I know that clustering can be done on Linux machines, and I would expect that there is a way with Windows as well, if you set the permissions properly.

What would be interesting is to see a highly-threaded FAH client that works over a cluster of computers with differing computing abilities. It would be really cool if I could use the desktop as a centre of FAH computing running an SMP client, and when the laptops are detected on the network, the desktop would assign each threads from the client that's already running. The computing power of all systems on your network could be used in a modular plug-and-play fasion. This would require FAH clients that spawn much more than four threads, and it would require some system to coordinate computation on vastly different computers, with some slower than others, but I can really see this being beneficial in terms of Stanford being able to assign even bigger WUs and having them completed in less time.
 
Exactly. What if small businesses could run FAH at night and on weekends using a client server? Would be great for FAH. Think of all the systems left on around the US alone that aren't really being used for any task...make it secure, run it virtually apart from the main OS.
 
WOOHOO!!! 100,000 Points 😀

Paarrty! Paarrty! Paarrty! 8)

Ok, enough partying. Got to get back to work if I want to get to 200,000 points :lol:
 
yeah, you're 100,000... belvdr just passed a million and i'm closing on 50,000 (after a year of folding 🙁 ) (i'm currently at 48888 points, looks fancy...

Ara
 
Yay, Tom's has a team, didn't know until now (spend most of my time in the homebuilt section). I'll switch my team immediately. 😀

I'm getting over 2000ppd on my OC'd E6400 (SMP client, VMware & Ubuntu), should help out a bit.

BTW, folding is the best stress test for overclocking. This thing could run Prime95 for days without a problem but would crash F@H within hours every time until I got it tweaked just right.

With all the overclocked C2D's around here this team should be kicking ass. More people here need to be folding. (Then we can really show off our e-penis). :lol:
 
Welcome aboard, you should see if anyone else in the home built section wants to join up as well. I'm hanging out to see how the R600 is going to perform. I might be hanging out for a while though.
 
:trophy: Welcome aboard! :trophy:

BTW What is your folding handle?

I'm folding under Cutthroat. :wink:

I'm gonna try to suggest folding for a benchmark and stress test for folks testing thier new PC's and overclocking. As I said, this team should be in the top 10 with the processing power we have around here.

I might have to throw a shameless plug thread into the homebuilt and overclocking sections when I have the ambition. :wink:
 
If you sort extreme's stat site by 24 hour production (HERE) Tom's comes up as number 38.

Standford announced thier windows SMP client today.
So, anyone with 2 or 4 cores should seriously consider downloading it
Currently, it runs only 4 threads. It will run on 2 core boxes, though, and you should get a nice PPD boost because of the beta bonus points.

You can see a summary of Beta clients the SMP cores are producing 1440 points with a final deadline of 4 days!

Check out the Official forum area for help. installation instructions, and expected PPD.
 
Well lets give it a shot and see if it's any faster than the Linux SMP client. I'll let you know real soon.

EDIT: Yeah, so it's not very fast. I'll only get about 1000ppd with this client. Back to the Linux SMP client.
 
What happened to belvdr? Since he broke 1M things came to a halt. We're going to have to kick up the recruitment drive!

I was hoping that the 32-bit linux SMP client release would happen at the same time as the one for Windows. Well, I'm sure the majority of FAH donators are running Windows, but I have a Core Duo here so I would like to use a 32-bit linux client.
 
What happened to belvdr? Since he broke 1M things came to a halt.

Scheduled power outage that caused other things to break, so I didn't have time to restart the boxes. I started them yesterday and saw the points starting to roll in again.

By the way, I'm down to 11 machines, but it's better than nothing.
 
I think you're the only one on the team who could say "down to 11 machines"! I was hoping it was something temporary.

I've had to tune down my dual-core since it's now in a HTPC case and heat is a real issue. Hopefully this will be more than offset by switching the Core Duo laptop to the new Windows SMP client. I'm still hopeful for a 32-bit linux client, but this is working pretty good for now.

On that topic, anyone else running project 2610? I have that on the Core Duo and I can't find any info on it. It's taking about the same time as I would expect 2604/2605, so I'm hoping it's worth loads of points.
 
The beta page has projects up to 2609. I'd assume they'll update it shortly.
A quick google search turned up this and this.

Xeon 3.0 Nocona Duallie, Win Serv 2003, 2 GB ram.

p2610
Avg. Time / Frame : 46mn 36s - 470.63 ppd

So that makes it a around 1400ish?

On the same page

From the results I've seen here and various other forums it looks like PPD is a tad bit lower than the VMware + Linux SMP except it seems that protein 2610 lowers PPD by a lot more than the other two proteins.

Hope that helps.
 
Thanks for the info.

Maybe the folks at FAH are adjusting the new SMP clients' points downwards because of the disparity between the SMP and GPU rewards. I really wondered why the same computer running SMP gets about 4x as many ppd as running 2 regular clients, even with BigWU and advmethods turned on.

If this is the case, then I'm glad I was able to take advantage of the last couple months.
 
Beta clients always receive bonus points. SMP clients represent a great resource for Stanford: they can return huge work units in short order. This is essential for their work. Most of their work is based on the previous run, clone, gen. So, it's worth it for them to encourage SMP clients with bonus points in order to move ahead with their research.

As far as the GPU client goes, we'll have to wait for ATI's R600. It may be a folding monster.

In the end, points are a reflection of work done and bonus points are given for work units or clients Stanford values more.

Speaking of clients, anyone see what kind of PPD the cell on the PS3 is producing?
 
The tech report has an article that compares a ton of AMD and intel chips in FAH among other things. Check it out.
No bonus points included

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Gizmondo has an article detailing how the PS3 is quietly taking over folding.

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According to this, 13,000 PS3's are doing half of the total folding!

You can view stats by OS here
 
I'm impressed that so many PS3 owners have decided to chip in, considering how little time has passed since the option to do it was available. It'll be good to see some PS3 teams taking over the charts.